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At what point can video games become immoral?

If the software/hardware/code got advanced enough that NPCs become conscious and self aware would you have a moral issue with playing a game like GTA?   

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  1. 1. If the software/hardware/code got advanced enough that NPCs become conscious and self aware would you have a moral issue with playing a game like GTA? 

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Movies have rape scenes, there is even a whole genre thats basically torture porn, I think children can be killed except raped.

 

Games it should even more allowed, it's equal fiction like a movie.

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7 hours ago, Vini said:

 

Again, we are a macro representation of micro processes, if it's possible in this universe, why can't it be coded on hardware. 

Computers don't have feelings. Does this make sense to you?  I'm really gonna need you to explain what you're missing. 

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3 hours ago, kokujin said:

Computers don't have feelings. Does this make sense to you?  I'm really gonna need you to explain what you're missing. 

Holy shit are you that obtuse? Today obviously they don't, I'm talking about artificial intelligence in the future, I'm not sure what you're missing.. 

 

I'm saying imagine sometime in the future hardware and software is good enough that we can digitally simulate the whole universe including having  civilizations evolve inside of it if we choose. To the beings inside of this simulation it will look and feel real just like it does to us. There is no reason this would be impossible if technology keeps improving exponentially.

 

I'm saying if you create that reality would you have a problem playing inside of it. 

 

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You're a colossal fucking idiot. :D. read your fucking op again and slow the fuck down. 

 

You are not asking in a society of self reliant robots would you have a problem playing gta. Which is apparently what you're asking now. Incoherent un self aware swab. 

 

You're also fucking ridiculous enough to still not answer how you program EMOTION and an ALIVE FREE WILLED FEELR AND OBSERVER inside this demonstrating robot. I don't think you've ever complelled what ego conscious and being a human is or means.  Can't/won't speak for animals.  

 

 

At best you said herp derp what if technology just completely changed everything we know about.

 

Well what if women grew a 5th boob and were able to time travel, would we respect them equally then??

 

This is literally how stupid and pointless your question is. :D. The obtuse one is you.  You're not even aware your op wasn't properly explained. And you still don't get you can't program a sentient being. It's an inanimate thing, you fucking dope.  

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1 minute ago, Ramza said:

stfu Cuckujin :D 

You mad because im effortless ly right. Fuck I hate you stupid people. Continue to ruib6society.

 

  Find me a relevant point not insults.

otherwise I assume you're mad I didn't say something as unemployed as the op. And you have no wisdom to offer. 

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Just now, kokujin said:

You mad because im effortless ly right. Fuck I hate you stupid people. Continue to ruib6society.

 

  Find me a relevant point not insults.

otherwise I assume you're mad I didn't say something as unemployed as the op. And you have no wisdom to offer. 

Stop acting like you're smart, dumbass.:pffft:

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1 hour ago, kokujin said:

You're a colossal fucking idiot. :D. read your fucking op again and slow the fuck down. 

 

You are not asking in a society of self reliant robots would you have a problem playing gta. Which is apparently what you're asking now. Incoherent un self aware swab. 

 

You're also fucking ridiculous enough to still not answer how you program EMOTION and an ALIVE FREE WILLED FEELR AND OBSERVER inside this demonstrating robot. I don't think you've ever complelled what ego conscious and being a human is or means.  Can't/won't speak for animals.  

 

 

At best you said herp derp what if technology just completely changed everything we know about.

 

Well what if women grew a 5th boob and were able to time travel, would we respect them equally then??

 

This is literally how stupid and pointless your question is. :D. The obtuse one is you.  You're not even aware your op wasn't properly explained. And you still don't get you can't program a sentient being. It's an inanimate thing, you fucking dope.  

There is no law in physics that says you can't program conciousness, feelings or illusion of free will for that matter, stop acting like you know something others don't. 

 

I was very clear in OP, I'm talking about IF in the future conciousness can be programmed would you feel the same moral obligation towards the virtual concious NPC as you would your fellow humans. 

 

Meantime you're on about "feelings" having some woo woo magical properties or some shit that can't be replicated. Move along 

 

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Lol. It's like you don't understand the human brain, or think you know it better than scientists. And how you have to reproduce to develope a new human being.  And actually physicists scientists have been and continue to try and quantify human identity. 

 

 Oh dear. I'm dealing with a fucking idiot who doesn't understand biology. 

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49 minutes ago, Vini said:

There is no law in physics that says you can't program conciousness, feelings or illusion of free will for that matter, stop acting like you know somethin

 

Meantime you're on about "feelings" having some woo woo magical properties or some shit that can't be replicated.

 

Actually there is. It's the only freaking way we understand something to be alive and sentient, for all of time.  you stupid fucking dolt.   

 

It's your feelings right now that's driving you to be a defensive twat and not see nor admit the error of your ways.  

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On 4/15/2018 at 11:44 AM, kokujin said:

Lmfao. Sadly I think this is a serious response. 

Dude that response made me remember about my friends back in the day who'd play GTA3 like great citizens, stopping at redlights/stop signs. I was like wtf are you retards doing? :D

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6 minutes ago, ghostz said:

Dude that response made me remember about my friends back in the day who'd play GTA3 like great citizens, stopping at redlights/stop signs. I was like wtf are you retards doing? :D

What if gta (start imagining the game) had speeding tickets and crimes of murder of innocent civilians. Then court appearances later you have to drive to (:D), then if you don't show on time a 4 star wanted level is put out for your search. 

 

All while trying to complete the game.

Lmafao.

 

Actually the idea of real mode is cool but you end up [having to] drive way too slow and eventually it's pointless not to run things and people over on your way anywhere.  Your friends have a funny heart. <3 kekek

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2 hours ago, Ramza said:

Stop acting like you're smart, dumbass.:pffft:

Oh so you're calling me dumb but refusing to quote anything i've discussed.  Interesting. Mad ass idiot. 

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21 minutes ago, kokujin said:

Lol. It's like you don't understand the human brain, or think you know it better than scientists. And how you have to reproduce to develope a new human being.  And actually physicists scientists have been and continue to try and quantify human identity. 

 

 Oh dear. I'm dealing with a fucking idiot who doesn't understand biology. 

Show me a theory in science that says you can't program conciousness or any reputable scientist who claims that

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I think you have to show me anything that says we can.

 

If our cell phones can teleport us to mars in the future, but you have to tunnel through a black hole, would you go?

 

(ironically more realistic than the bullshit you're trying to pull)

 

 

If poop made your dick bigger, would you let it?

 

 

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Your thread is fucking useless lol. It was fine till you had a problem with someone questioning you. And you having NO explanation except for a fucking tantrum.  

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9 minutes ago, Vini said:

Show me a theory in science that says you can't program conciousness or any reputable scientist who claims that

 

The Chinese room should get you started on the debate of whether strong AI will ever exist. It's ridiculous to suggest it's some kind of accepted fact.

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It's sad you think a binary programmed thing, can hold consciousness.  Lol fuck. Writing the sentence alone is enough. It literally writes (solves?) itself.

 

 

 but I get you only believe and learn from memes and only trust other people saying it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rawstory.com/2016/03/a-neuroscientist-explains-why-artificially-intelligent-robots-will-never-have-consciousness-like-humans/amp/

 

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22 minutes ago, kokujin said:

Oh so you're calling me dumb but refusing to quote anything i've discussed.  Interesting. Mad ass idiot. 

I don't see why I would need to quote anything, it's quite apparent you're as dumb as a rock, it's like saying the sky is blue and the grass is green. No one would argue the fact, well, except maybe you. :D

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