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Quote from: Cool Jonny on February 13, 2024, 12:49:35 AMIf subscriptions arent making money then why does Sony have one  :ben:
Subs make money if done as an additive way to your traditional business. They don't make money when you bet the farm on them like MS and Disney are doing. Throwing all your best shit on a sub day one while your traditional method for doing business are tanking is why Disney is in trouble and now Xbox is also in trouble. 


Disney backed off from day one movies on Disney Plus but the damage has already been done. MS stayed too long and now they are porting their games to PS5 and Switch. It doesn't make money when you bet the farm on it and if it did we wouldn't be having this conversation about Xbox going third party right now  :sass1:

Quote from: FIREPOWER on February 13, 2024, 01:32:25 AMSubs make money if done as an additive way to your traditional business. They don't make money when you bet the farm on them like MS and Disney are doing. Throwing all your best shit on a sub day one while your traditional method for doing business are tanking is why Disney is in trouble and now Xbox is also in trouble.


Disney backed off from day one movies on Disney Plus but the damage has already been done. MS stayed too long and now they are porting their games to PS5 and Switch. It doesn't make money when you bet the farm on it and if it did we wouldn't be having this conversation about Xbox going third party right now  :sass1:
we probably would be 

Quote from: FIREPOWER on February 13, 2024, 01:32:25 AMSubs make money if done as an additive way to your traditional business. They don't make money when you bet the farm on them like MS and Disney are doing. Throwing all your best shit on a sub day one while your traditional method for doing business are tanking is why Disney is in trouble and now Xbox is also in trouble.


Disney backed off from day one movies on Disney Plus but the damage has already been done. MS stayed too long and now they are porting their games to PS5 and Switch. It doesn't make money when you bet the farm on it and if it did we wouldn't be having this conversation about Xbox going third party right now  :sass1:
Moron, MS doesn't make enough money from Gamepass because of the userbase.
They simply are not selling as much Series XS, that's why they are expanding Gamepass to the competition.
This is why Sony also expanded their catalogue to PC.
The only one that is making money off hardware is Nintendo because they don't invest too much in tech.
Simply, it is not profitable to make consoles and sell them at a loss.


Quote from: MalaXmaS on February 13, 2024, 02:00:00 AMMoron, MS doesn't make enough money from Gamepass because of the userbase.
They simply are not selling as much Series XS, that's why they are expanding Gamepass to the competition.
This is why Sony also expanded their catalogue to PC.
The only one that is making money off hardware is Nintendo because they don't invest too much in tech.
Simply, it is not profitable to make consoles and sell them at a loss.
:mj: You fucking idiot. What userbase? After 7 years of GamePass being on the market they are approximately 30 million, a fucking joke. It doesn't help that most of them took advantage of $1 deals and whatnot. You're a fucking moron, and it's no surprise, you are also a lemming. They are bleeding money you fucking idiot. The money they make from GamePass is a drop in the bucket compared to how much they've spent on buying publishers and licenses to keep third party games on the service. The proof is the fact we are even having this conversation of them putting their games on Playstation and Nintendo in the first place.

Sony started turning a profit on their hardware a year after launch of the PS5. Same shit happened with the PS4. Sony also make a majority of their profit from games people buy on their store and the microtransactions they get which is why the profit they make from physical is inconsequential compared to the insane money they make from the PS Store. Nintendo makes money from hardware but they don't make nearly the amount of money Sony prints from massive GAAS  games like GTAV, Fortnite, and COD being sold on the PS Store. It's basically free money from Sony requiring zero investment on their part. They make money from their userbase just existing and buying games and microtransactions on the store in huge amounts which is why hardware sales are important you fucking imbecile.

MS decided to gamble with their primary money maker, their digital store, since you retards weren't buying games. They put all their big games in a service and the result is Xbox tanking in both digital and physical retail. The store where MS makes most of their money from which is the 30% cut they make from third party devs is bleeding money because they've cultivated a fanbase of morons like you that don't buy games and wait for everything to go to GamePass.


Don't even try to deny this fact because we see it in monthly sales charts with PS5 versions of multiplats and PS5 exclusive games dominating the chart. Starfield was the first time in many years we saw an Xbox exclusive make the top 10 on any chart and it tanked shortly after.

Quote from: Cool Jonny on February 13, 2024, 01:43:57 AMwe probably would be
Nah, Xbox would have been shut down sooner. GamePass just succeeded in delaying the inevitable as Phil successfully conned Satya and you lems into believing in the service. Now the jig is up and Satya and the investors want their return on investment and that's why we are having this discussion now. Without GamePass Staya probably would have killed Xbox in 2016 or 2017.

 Either way Xbox is fucked though. They never recovered from mistakes they made with the XB1 and Phil and Co. couldn't turn the ship around with good games because of their terrible mismanagement and inability to create compelling games.

ParagraphPower  :D why are you so invested in this lol.

Could just xbox dead LOL and get the same point across.


Gamepass is the reason XBox is going multiplat yet lemmings are still trying to pass off the service as a success.

Quote from: Playstation Tablet on February 13, 2024, 12:33:01 PMGamepass is the reason XBox is going multiplat yet lemmings are still trying to pass off the service as a success.
If it wasn't,  it wouldn't exist.  


Quote from: FIREPOWER on February 13, 2024, 04:03:11 AM:mj: You fucking idiot. What userbase? After 7 years of GamePass being on the market they are approximately 30 million, a fucking joke. It doesn't help that most of them took advantage of $1 deals and whatnot. You're a fucking moron, and it's no surprise, you are also a lemming. They are bleeding money you fucking idiot. The money they make from GamePass is a drop in the bucket compared to how much they've spent on buying publishers and licenses to keep third party games on the service. The proof is the fact we are even having this conversation of them putting their games on Playstation and Nintendo in the first place.

Sony started turning a profit on their hardware a year after launch of the PS5. Same shit happened with the PS4. Sony also make a majority of their profit from games people buy on their store and the microtransactions they get which is why the profit they make from physical is inconsequential compared to the insane money they make from the PS Store. Nintendo makes money from hardware but they don't make nearly the amount of money Sony prints from massive GAAS  games like GTAV, Fortnite, and COD being sold on the PS Store. It's basically free money from Sony requiring zero investment on their part. They make money from their userbase just existing and buying games and microtransactions on the store in huge amounts which is why hardware sales are important you fucking imbecile.

MS decided to gamble with their primary money maker, their digital store, since you retards weren't buying games. They put all their big games in a service and the result is Xbox tanking in both digital and physical retail. The store where MS makes most of their money from which is the 30% cut they make from third party devs is bleeding money because they've cultivated a fanbase of morons like you that don't buy games and wait for everything to go to GamePass.


Don't even try to deny this fact because we see it in monthly sales charts with PS5 versions of multiplats and PS5 exclusive games dominating the chart. Starfield was the first time in many years we saw an Xbox exclusive make the top 10 on any chart and it tanked shortly after.
I ain´t reading all that shit by you, only the first paragraph which is already enough.
In short, of course 30 million is nothing because again, the userbase you moron.
The whole strategy of buying publishers, at first it was a TCHBFR moment, but what everyone expected was for MS to SECURE exclusives and good games for the Xbox brand.
What MS ended up doing was expanding Gamepass to the competition.
From a business standpoint, it makes sense.
From a retarded fanboy standpoint like you, it doesn't.

Regardless, there is no denial that MS has been handling this publisher acquisitions like shit, and putting downgraded versions of their games.

Which is why I already cancelled Gamepass.
I am going to rely on playing old games that I bought, physical and digital.

I don't care about online since I don't play online.


Quote from: Playstation Tablet on February 13, 2024, 12:33:01 PMGamepass is the reason XBox is going multiplat yet lemmings are still trying to pass off the service as a success.
:ben: Thats because they are brainwashed retards. They still haven't learned why their platform is the only platform with its games going to its rivals. They are gonna be clinging to GP until all their games are on PS5 day and date and they'll use it as Copium until MS shuts down the whole console division lol.


Quote from: Playstation Tablet on February 13, 2024, 07:48:22 PMPhil Spencer not every Xbox game will come to PC. https://www.pcgamesn.com/gears-of-war/phil-spencer-says-not-every-xbox-game-will-come-to-pc
This is 2015/2016 all over again. "A select number of games" will be coming to PS5/Switch and then eventually everything will be arriving on PS5. We've seen this song and dance before  :mickeyj:

Quote from: MalaXmaS on February 13, 2024, 03:24:17 PMI ain´t reading all that shit by you, only the first paragraph which is already enough.
In short, of course 30 million is nothing because again, the userbase you moron.
The whole strategy of buying publishers, at first it was a TCHBFR moment, but what everyone expected was for MS to SECURE exclusives and good games for the Xbox brand.
What MS ended up doing was expanding Gamepass to the competition.
From a business standpoint, it makes sense.
From a retarded fanboy standpoint like you, it doesn't.

Regardless, there is no denial that MS has been handling this publisher acquisitions like shit, and putting downgraded versions of their games.

Which is why I already cancelled Gamepass.
I am going to rely on playing old games that I bought, physical and digital.

I don't care about online since I don't play online.
Keep sipping that Copium, Xbox is fucked thanks to retards like to you. I'm gonna be laughing at your retarded ass when they shut everything down in the next couple of years. Keep supporting GP and not buying games   :mroff: