kaz

I mastered the moonerang. That shit is a bosskiller holy damn, snatch 3 life mana, deflect perfectly, hitting faster and faster and BOOM. feels like im wearing a hand prosthetic having a malfunction at the end of the skill

2 hours ago, Sabo said:

 

I did catch that. But you also turned around and said this which implies you were really pushing the argument to make the comparison. It's two completely different genres where the comparison doesn't make sense because they have different standards and expectations.

 

Let me put it this way:

 

What's the first thing people ask when it comes to a JRPG?

 

"Is the story good?" is usually the first question.

 

What's the first thing people ask when it comes to Horror?

 

"Is it scary?" is usually the first question. 

 

So to make this short and to the point- Story is far more important in a JRPG than it is in a Horror game therefore its far more important to hire an actual writer for a JRPG than it is for a Horror game.

 

You can get away with not hiring an actual writer for certain genres but you can't really get away with it for a JRPG if you want your story to be well recieved because the story is what most people are actually playing for. Basically, if you are making a JRPG- hire a fuckin' writer. It matters for this genre.

 

 

yes yes yes, let me hug you 

just went to the village

best game ever made  

this is so stupid, who wants to play games on a phone 

cool, do a kickflip

yeah the first was so bland and boring, I keep wondering how people can make these games

15 hours ago, Sabo said:

Haven't played Signalis but I do know Horror is generally considered to be the easiest genre to work with, especially for a small team. There's a reason Horror is known as the "Breakout" genre for pretty much all forms of media. It's low budget and the writing gets heavy assistance from other factors involved. 

 

So comparing Signalis to Sea of Stars is just a dumb comparison... Two completely different genres with completely different standards.

6 hours ago, madmaltese said:

Yeah like Sabo said, I just think there are other genres that are better suited to that type of writing and tone.

 

First off, the hardest genre to write a story/plot, or in general to is comedy. And I don't think it's harder to write a story for RE-like Horror game than a JRPG.

That said, my comparison isn't "dumb" if you consider that I myself already mentioned that it is indeed an odd comparison and I quote myself here:"...meanwhile Signalis made by TWO people, they worked on the story themselves. Okay, I'm comparing apples with dildos, but it shows they really cared about their game".

Whats dumb is that you didn't read that or idk didn't understand my point, which definitely isn't about standards but about the writing itself and how many people work on a project with a PASSION.

Owned    @mad too 

My point is that an entire team (I posted a link) was not able to come up with something. You guys all agree the story "sucks" more or less but still act like as if you need to defend it   I get it, it's because you don't care in the end because the focus is on the other stuff which is pretty good. So far so good, I won't complain it was just the shock coming back JRPGs. The writing is definitely worse than other jRPG I played. Imagine FF6 which such bland characters  

My dude who gave up on JRPGs long ago and played it said you could merge Zale and Valerie and make it one person, that's how atrociously written and one dimensional they are. He dropped the game after 10 hours so, I keep going but I'm terrified of any conversation  

It's ok guys, I was getting annoyed because it's a general thing. We can't expect anything because the writing standards will not be lifted (for many genres). Who cares about the JRPG writing. Love y'all

I would buy a switch if the games weren't so expensive. I don't like pirating anymore but I guess in ninty case I would crack the shit out of a switch... but I think an emu for PC will do 

2 minutes ago, kaz said:

Of course they are self aware and I noticed these jokes too. (I wouldn't say all of it is intentional tho, mad). Like I mentioned they are doing a homage to JRPGs, I get it. But the rest of it is lazy and worse than any other JRPG I ever played. It's fine, kids play it too, and I'm glad they get their kinda version of oldschool games.

 

My point still stands though, I think what I'm trying to say is I hope to see a JRPG-style game but with a heavy-theme and plot. It doesn't have to be like a Shadowrun CRPG where you spent hours reading, I know must people would hate that, I would love it if it's good but I'm thinking of a middle ground between the two.

 

Most devs are too lazy when it comes to writing. But there is no excuse when TWO people (Signalis) come up with interesting shit even if it's cryptic - and told in tiny bits - I'd rather have that than a minute long meaningless convo. Or like that hyper light drifter dialogue, with metaphors etc.

 

can't have everything in life, i know

Of course they are self aware and I noticed these jokes too. Like I mentioned they are doing a homage to JRPGs, I get it. But the rest of it is lazy and worse than any other JRPG I ever played. It's fine, kids play it too, and I'm glad they get their kinda version of oldschool games.

My point still stands though, I think what I'm trying to say is I hope to see a JRPG-style game but with a heavy-theme and plot. It doesn't have to be like a Shadowrun CRPG where you spent hours reading, I know must people would hate that, I would love it if it's good but I'm thinking of a middle ground between the two.

Most devs are too lazy when it comes to writing. But there is no excuse when TWO people (Signalis) come up with interesting shit even if it's cryptic - and told in tiny bits - I'd rather have that than a minute long meaningless convo. Or like that hyper light drifter dialogue, with metaphors etc.

can't have everything in life, i know

3 hours ago, z,warrior said:

My friend is getting an Xbox S just for the game. Should I stop him or help him cause I could get him a discount?

tell him to get a series x

can it do 720p yet (native)? 

3 hours ago, Sabo said:

Story sucks but that should've been a given considering they didn't hire an actual writer. Then again I've been following the game for years so I already knew not to expect anything from the story. Sea of Stars was always banking on its gameplay to win people over.

This is what I don't understand. I don't think anyone needs to hire a writer, if anything it would be natural for the people who came up with the idea and spent a long time working on it to put more thought into this and come up with something. I mean we can, it's simple. Everyone has more imagination to come up with something better than the typical meaningless empty words of magical powers, to train them, to overcome evil with it blabla....

https://sabotagestudio.com/team/

meanwhile Signalis made by TWO people, they worked on the story themselves. Okay, I'm comparing apples with dildos, but it shows they really cared about their game

2 hours ago, -GD-X said:

The story will continue to be all over the place. However, the gameplay and diverse levels will be more than enough to keep you playing. I will say I still got connected to the characters, even with the unfocused plot. 
As for enemies that summon/heal, nuke them first. It’ll save you a lot of headaches. Shiii..I restarted a battle once because of the issue you had. I ain’t got time for all that lol. I slightly backtracked, rested at the fire, and then came at those mofos with guns blazing. Those battles can go from easy to annoying really quick lol. Fortunately, they are simple if you take them out first. 

Yea, I did quit right away when I wasn't fast enough too    I just had to learn the hard way there is no point of trying it goes too far. It has to be nerfed. 

But man, the amount of combat is ideal too, i never get bored and it's never too much. I prefer this soo much over random chance encounters which are pointless.

too ez 

I was out eating at a restaurant with my fam, afterwards we went to our fav ice cream place, then went home. TV is on - footage of plane crashing into tower over and over again.

I was like 11 years old as well (like dat britfaggu) and didn't really get what was going on - like the scale of it. 

jesus christ why does jerry keep talking, whatever he says, whatever stupid take he has on things is all garbage:"IT HAS TO BE THE MARTIAN NOT A MILLION FUCKING OTHER SPACE MOVIES OR MEDIA, OH GEEZ A 2015 MOVIE GUESS WHEN THEY STARTED DEVELOPING TARDFIELDS??? YES THATS RIGHT EXACTLY 2015 AFTER FO4.... COINCEDENCE?? :winkyeyes:  HEHE NOBODY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT EXCEPT ME HEHE".

sure thing, pal

btw GODfield seems fine, many haters retracking their initial comments and enjoying it now, people who played more praise some of the quests and writing, gameplay overall better than previous shittestha. Turns out people actually have to play a game before they can give an honest opinion.  

Stay mad, cows and cooke

still playing sea of stars which means this game does a lot right. I'm at the coral cascade area, man this game is beautiful - the music too. I haven't played a JRPG like this in years because I always drop them early, but this game really does have good pacing. I'm not forced to explore a village or town but do it anyway. The combat is very addicting and is quite challenging sometimes as well. I know there is a relic to be healed after every encounter but I won't use it and spend some time making sure I got balance for the 10 consumable slots, I like that it's not unlimited and doesn't trivialize the healing system.

these ant bruiser fucks though    wtf, I was in a battle and it took like 10 minutes because

I have so many good things to say, but I'd rather point out the bad ones. I will never understand how people can work on a game and completely disregard the overall plot and writing. It's a homage to JRPGs, I get it, but cmon, even chrono trigger had better writing than this. They basically say nothing at all every time. Super cringe moments included. I wish devs would wake up and take this seriously. I hope the story picks up later like others here mentioned but so far it has been TORTURE. I was close to dropping it many times, I just can't handle it. 

Also the main battle theme gets on my nerves too. It reminds me of why I always hated dragon quest and never got into that series, Way to cheery and happy. 

But anyway, yea it's a good game.

The intro in sea of stars is terrible   my god, whoever tries to play this game, read super fast or skip everything all together. I fucking lost it when the bald dude

After that it flows really well. combat and environments own hard. and boss fights are really cool. 

...for it's functionality

do you really play some of these on switch? that's terrible. Doom gba version 😐

Spico was always right. MS is going to take over.  

dude discovers good games.... I can imagine the surprise and sudden shock being used to playing xbox for years....

Demo is available on steam, this game owns. I'm not really too impressed by the perspective transition while shooting but the first part of the demo is more about exploring RE style.  Tasty pixels  

Polish TRA....uhh GODLINESS  GET FUCKED BHTRGAY

also reminds me of SIGNALIS too. GODLY GAME. INDIE TOO STRONG.  

It looks OG-like and I like it but it's not enough for me to get excited, we will see how the important parts turn out. After the developing mess and team changes I am still worried though and I only know chinese room because they made the Amnesia spin off: A machine for pigs (which owns) but looking at what they worked on it's only games like this. (the others being trash lol)

the deprived of games-lemshite pretends to be more into dnd than cows