Playstation Tablet 1,865 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 $300 million budget. Based on the video output of Xbox One X, the output is clearly derived from the SDR image and is not actually rendered with any kind of high dynamic range. Yes, we can hit a max 500 nits, but this is with the HDR calibration ramped up to the max, artificially boosting peak brightness from what is likely a 100 nit source image. The game's recommended 100 setting for LCD screens would see all of our comparison shots on this page present in a completely monochrome manner, signifying an image that is, effectively, an SDR image. This is not the first game to present us with what you might call 'fake' HDR - earlier this year the Xbox One port of Nier Automata also pulled a similar trick, effectively transplanting the standard dynamic range image into an 'HDR container'. Once active, your screen registers an HDR output from the console, but it just contains the SDR image within it. All of our tests suggests the same thing is happening in Red Dead 2 on both Xbox and PlayStation systems. Full analysis on DF.https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2018-whats-up-with-red-dead-redemption-2s-hdr Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 8,347 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 ewww. hdr > 4k Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,161 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 That may be the case but whatever HDR function they have in the game still appears superior to the SDR leaning. Everything in SDR looks blown out, over saturated, incorrect contrast values etc. The HDR function naturalizes the lighting and contrast values which eliminates crushed blacks and over-exaggerated colors/whites. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sergio Perez SP11 176 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I did think the HDR was lacking Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 5,047 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Can confirm the HDR is bad... like most HDR implementations. Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,814 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Yeah HDR is not great however for me at least, still slightly better than without it. Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,161 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, madmaltese said: Yeah HDR is not great however for me at least, still slightly better than without it. Agreed, people are saying it looks washed out but for me it actually looks more natural, SDR looks blown out. Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,814 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, DynamiteCop! said: Agreed, people are saying it looks washed out but for me it actually looks more natural, SDR looks blown out. I'm one of the few that sometimes actually prefers the washed out look. Especially for more realistic looking games (not cartoony, colourful ones). Link to post Share on other sites
lostfool 694 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 864p 20fps and fake HDR Link to post Share on other sites
TLHBO 2,299 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 After Nier too, it's obvious that Xbox is holding back HDR. Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,161 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TLHBO said: After Nier too, it's obvious that Xbox is holding back HDR. what kind of dumb shit is this Two games you want to talk about Xbox holding things back when both games render at 100% higher resolution with better and more stable performance. Edited October 30, 2018 by DynamiteCop! Link to post Share on other sites
Vini 430 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Weird thing is I shut off HDR through Xbox to see the difference but the game still looks better with HDR on. Sucks that its fake but better than nothing. Link to post Share on other sites
kaz 2,493 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 DamagecontrolCop! Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 3,026 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Atleast X owners get 4k Pro owners dialing back their MISTAKE to 1080p ROFL Link to post Share on other sites
Sergio Perez SP11 176 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Turned off HDR in the Xbox Settings, and tweaked my TV Settings. Looks so much better this way, better contrast, not washed out any more Link to post Share on other sites
Spicalicious 132 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 23 hours ago, lostfool said: 864p 20fps and fake HDR lol ps4.. what a shit console. Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 5,047 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, S#$@%^i said: lol ps4.. what a shit console. You're kidding, right? PS4 just had God of War, Detroit, and Spider-man, this year.... coming off of Horizon Zero Dawn last year... and Ghost of Tsushima and TLoU2 next year... with Death Stranding sometime in 2020. It far and away has more better looking titles than any other platform. As good as Gears 5, is going to look, and Halo Infinite... nothing is going to fuck with The Last of Us 2. It's on another level. Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,161 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Remij_ said: You're kidding, right? PS4 just had God of War, Detroit, and Spider-man, this year.... coming off of Horizon Zero Dawn last year... and Ghost of Tsushima and TLoU2 next year... with Death Stranding sometime in 2020. It far and away has more better looking titles than any other platform. As good as Gears 5, is going to look, and Halo Infinite... nothing is going to fuck with The Last of Us 2. It's on another level. Yeah but what will be more fun to play? Better is very relative, games are compartmentalized. Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 5,047 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: Yeah but what will be more fun to play? Better is very relative, games are compartmentalized. I'm referring to gfx specifically. His response was in response to a post about gfx. I don't think it's fair to call the PS4 a shit console in any regard. Not a single one. Because regardless of it not hitting 4K, it's unquestionably got many (most) of the best looking titles this generation. Most people would agree with that. That's not to say MS doesn't have some that hit close. As I said, I think Gears 5 will be one of the best looking games when it releases.. but I just can't see anything other than MAYBE Halo Infinite, and Star Citizen: Squadron 42 coming close to it. MS' new studio The Initiative wont have anything ready by the end of the gen I suspect... but I'm sure their entire purpose is to make games in the vein of Sony first party, with ridiculous production values. But that's next gen. Ninja Theory could definitely make a gorgeous game... so we'll have to see what they can come up with, with a bigger budget. Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 3,026 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Lol making up release dates now Link to post Share on other sites
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