Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, SheepKilla said: those are DRINKS, which I agree with. Even Coke Zero is bad due to the weird side-effects from aspartame or sucralose. actual diet food is actually healthy. If you know how to read nutrition labels, it's all easy. Yes a cheese with 0 calcium is not very alarming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Just now, Team 2019 said: Liver on the left, pork meat on the right and butter. More nutrition than literally a super market worth of "non processed" White bread bagels and diet creme cheeses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 Just now, DynamiteCop! said: This has been solved a million times in the carnivore community. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepKilla 473 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: Yes a cheese with 0 calcium is not very alarming. calcium isn't involved in weight loss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boss 70 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, SheepKilla said: those are DRINKS, which I agree with. Even Coke Zero is bad due to the weird side-effects from aspartame or sucralose. actual diet food is actually healthy. If you know how to read nutrition labels, it's all easy. It's not just the drinks. When manufactures remove fat from say cookies, and label its fat free, the lack of flavour is compensated with less healthy ingredients like sugar. Again I'm not saying that everything is a scam. But like you say, you really need to read into these products, because so many of them are full of shit. Most health experts would rather you skip the fat free gimmick stuff and opt for whole foods such as healthy fats or nuts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 Just now, SheepKilla said: calcium isn't involved in weight loss. You're trying to label a cheese with no calcium as healthy, it's like buying a beef sausage with no protien. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepKilla 473 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Boss said: It's not just the drinks. When manufactures remove fat from say cookies, and label its fat free, the lack of flavour is compensated with less healthy ingredients like sugar. Again I'm not saying that everything is a scam. But like you say, you really need to read into these products, because so many of them are full of shit. Most health experts would rather you skip the fat free gimmick stuff and opt for whole foods such as healthy fats or nuts. I don't know where you shop, but I don't really see scenarios where diet cookies instead have a bunch of sugar to compensate. Usually I see the opposite - the sugar is like 10g for diet, and 30g for non-diet. Which is a massive difference. Also, fat isn't really too important in diets. The most important things are 1) calories, and 2) sugar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepKilla 473 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: You're trying to label a cheese with no calcium as healthy, it's like buying a beef sausage with no protien. What exactly would be unhealthy about it? Just the simple fact it has no calcium? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepKilla 473 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Aza thinks 50 calories per tablespoon with no calcium is FAR LESS healthy than 8% calcium with 300 calories per tablespoon. good GOD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boss 70 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, SheepKilla said: I don't know where you shop, but I don't really see scenarios where diet cookies instead have a bunch of sugar to compensate. Usually I see the opposite - the sugar is like 10g for diet, and 30g for non-diet. Which is a massive difference. Interesting. I suppose I've seen quite enough of my example, but I'm kinda curious to take a better look next time at the grocery store. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, SheepKilla said: What exactly would be unhealthy about it? Just the simple fact it has no calcium? No the fact that it's empty calories with zero nutrients. Same as the white bread bagel. You consumed an X amount of calories with nothing in them and literally would get more vitonutrions from a bite of liver. Edited December 30, 2018 by Team 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Boss said: Interesting. I suppose I've seen quite enough of my example, but I'm kinda curious to take a better look next time at the grocery store. Check the fat free cheese spreads. They somehow manage to shove cheap ass palm oil in there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 The worst "diet" scams that exist are those grain bars, and other fiber labeled shit. If it says whole grains, throw that in the garbage and just get a Mars bar. It's better. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 Keto bacon goddess Daphney. Ex vegan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepKilla 473 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: No the fact that it's empty calories with zero nutrients. Same as the white bread bagel. You consumed an X amount of calories with nothing in them and literally would get more vitonutrions from a bite of liver. If you really want vitamins, why wouldn't you just take a vitamin supplement? let me guess, it's "unnatural" but Chernobyl meat isn't Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, SheepKilla said: If you really want vitamins, why wouldn't you just take a vitamin supplement? let me guess, it's "unnatural" but Chernobyl meat isn't You realize it's sad you can get more vitamins from a bite of liver or butter, than a super market worth of white bagels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) Sorry if eating a bunch of empty calories with no nutrients, getting a super fast Insulin and sugar spike from a processed white bread bagel, then crawling till your next sugar hit of pasta with "non processed" fat free pasta sauce doesn't sound very compelling. Then taking a vitamin supplement with terrible bioabsorbption. Edited December 30, 2018 by Team 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boss 70 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I could never give up pasta. I tried to do a low LOW carb diet last year just to see how it would effect me and i've never felt more terrible in a two week period. Might have needed more time to adjust but I just wasn't willing to live like that -I value my mental health too. Just have to continue to manage my portions. I make it homemade quite often as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 God bless butter. If only I had known years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, Boss said: I could never give up pasta. I tried to do a low LOW carb diet last year just to see how it would effect me and i've never felt more terrible in a two week period. Might have needed more time to adjust but I just wasn't willing to live like that -I value my mental health too. Just have to continue to manage my portions. I make it homemade quite often as well. Keto =/= low carb. Low carb is just exactly that, low carb. Ketosis is a metabolic state. You can even achieve ketosis on a vegan keto diet, but Veganism is a terrible nutrient deficient diet. Vegan keto even more inane. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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