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You called what? Inferring guilt or collusion based upon presumption? What the fuck is due process of the law...   You did this same dumb shit with Kavanaugh, you looney leftists have no con

Comey's entire 30 something year career in law enforcement and with the FBI serving his country.......Trump has you believing that he did it to sell a BOOK?    While Trump an Elitist who lie

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12 hours ago, Sublyminal said:

We already knew he was going to jail. The shit you posted was a non story. Sorry buddy but thems the breaks.

Ah I see you are pulling out the Giuliani card...

 

After two years of denying the campaign did any wrong doing.   They're straight up admitting it now... 

 

Giuliani - "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign or between people in the campaign... .

 

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5 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

Ah I see you are pulling out the Giuliani card...

 

After two years of denying the campaign did any wrong doing.   They're straight up admitting it now... 

 

Giuliani - "I never said there was no collusion between the campaign or between people in the campaign... .

 

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Well that's entirely possible if the truth isn't the truth. :troll:

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I love how we've been making these guys move the goalposts for about 18 straight months now.

 

Its gonna be great seeing these guys movie it even more and six months from now, they'll be throwing sentences like this out there:

 

"PFFT, OF COURSE we knew the Trump campaign had people colluding with Russia, but that's all. Trump never actually was aware of it.  Total no-burger!!!"

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42 minutes ago, jehurey said:

I love how we've been making these guys move the goalposts for about 18 straight months now.

 

Its gonna be great seeing these guys movie it even more and six months from now, they'll be throwing sentences like this out there:

 

"PFFT, OF COURSE we knew the Trump campaign had people colluding with Russia, but that's all. Trump never actually was aware of it.  Total no-burger!!!"

You truly are deranged my friend.

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1 minute ago, jehurey said:

Translation: "I don't want to play anymore..........for two weeks until I muster up the bitterness courage to bring it up again.":gerstmann:

Nope, I love making your dumb ass look stupid (not hard).  But it's getting sad now.

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12 minutes ago, Sublyminal said:

Nope, I love making your dumb ass look stupid (not hard).  But it's getting sad now.

Ah the ole "pretend I succeeded" routine.

 

I like seeing people try this. Because its already lazy, and they'll realize that they're too lazy to stick with it for more than 4-5 posts, max, before lazily giving up.:bena:

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51 minutes ago, jehurey said:

Ah the ole "pretend I succeeded" routine.

 

I like seeing people try this. Because its already lazy, and they'll realize that they're too lazy to stick with it for more than 4-5 posts, max, before lazily giving up.:bena:

Pretend hell. Nikka I did succeed.

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3 minutes ago, Ramza said:

This is exactly how I feel about US politics today.

 

 

 

That couldn't be more perfect.

 

You listening to a libertarian who just flew to Canada to get hernia surgery in a country with universal healthcare.

 

Just absolutely perfect that you relied on him to make you sound smart.:blessed:

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1 minute ago, jehurey said:

That couldn't be more perfect.

 

You listening to a libertarian who just flew to Canada to get hernia surgery in a country with universal healthcare.

 

Just absolutely perfect that you relied on him to make you sound smart.:blessed:

Somehow that neglects everything he said. 

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1 minute ago, Ramza said:

Somehow that neglects everything he said. 

In that you posted something from a man whose credibility is so shot that he just did the very thing that contradicts his entire career and reputation?

 

I'm not the one who is committing neglect here.

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1 minute ago, jehurey said:

In that you posted something from a man whose credibility is so shot that he just did the very thing that contradicts his entire career and reputation?

 

I'm not the one who is committing neglect here.

By getting medical treatment in Canada? It now means everything the mans says is wrong, absolutely everything, not just his health care policies. LMAO

 

He sure didn't come to Quebec for that. It'd still be on a waiting list.

 

And it's a private hospital according to the man himself. Private hospitals in Canada =/= public hospitals. It's gaining popularity in recent decades because of the failure of public services for ''free''. lmao, is that all you got?

"I looked for a place that did primarily that type of surgery. A place that actually accepts Americans who pay cash," Paul said in an interview with Wave 3 News in Washington, D.C.. "It's a private hospital. The funny thing is, people had an agenda that wanted to attack me said, 'Oh, you're going to choose socialized medicine.' I'm actually choosing capitalistic medicine because they only take cash from foreigners."

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7 minutes ago, Ramza said:

By getting medical treatment in Canada? It now means everything the mans says is wrong, absolutely everything, not just his health care policies. LMAO

 

He sure didn't come to Quebec for that. It'd still be on a waiting list.

 

And it's a private hospital according to the man himself. Private hospitals in Canada =/= public hospitals. It's gaining popularity in recent decades because of the failure of public services for ''free''. lmao, is that all you got?

"I looked for a place that did primarily that type of surgery. A place that actually accepts Americans who pay cash," Paul said in an interview with Wave 3 News in Washington, D.C.. "It's a private hospital. The funny thing is, people had an agenda that wanted to attack me said, 'Oh, you're going to choose socialized medicine.' I'm actually choosing capitalistic medicine because they only take cash from foreigners."

That's subsidized because of the healthcare system in Canada.

 

It cost $6000-$8000 for the hernia treatment. 

 

I hope you understand how this demolishes not just ONE tenet of Rand Paul's (and daddy Ron Paul, and the entire libertarian) ideology.........but TWO tenets of the ideology.

 

Rand Paul believe that it is only just that the product or service be sold at its free market price.......which isn't the case, because he is getting a LOW PRICE because its subsidized through socialism.

 

Rand Paul is paying cash............but he's paying a LOW LOW PRICE because that entire hospital is subsidized by the Canadian taxpayer. Which allows their costs for hernia surgeries to be that low for an outside to only pay $6-$8K.

 

The 2nd tenet of libertarian ideology is that the free market system IS THE MAIN REASON for higher quality.  His excuse for going to this hospital in Canada is because it is known as being one of the best hospitals for this procedure.

 

...........in other words, a higher-quality product was achieved through a socialism-based system.

 

I mean, Libertarianism was already demolished about 2-3 years ago, most people on this forum abandoned it. But this easily, EASILY, puts the nail in the coffin.

 

The Onion couldn't make Rand Paul look this stupid in a headline, if they tried.

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4 minutes ago, jehurey said:

That's subsidized because of the healthcare system in Canada.

 

It cost $6000-$8000 for the hernia treatment. 

 

I hope you understand how this demolishes not just ONE tenet of Rand Paul's (and daddy Ron Paul, and the entire libertarian) ideology.........but TWO tenets of the ideology.

 

Rand Paul believe that it is only just that the product or service be sold at its free market price.......which isn't the case, because he is getting a LOW PRICE because its subsidized through socialism.

 

Rand Paul is paying cash............but he's paying a LOW LOW PRICE because that entire hospital is subsidized by the Canadian taxpayer. Which allows their costs for hernia surgeries to be that low for an outside to only pay $6-$8K.

 

The 2nd tenet of libertarian ideology is that the free market system IS THE MAIN REASON for higher quality.  His excuse for going to this hospital in Canada is because it is known as being one of the best hospitals for this procedure.

 

...........in other words, a higher-quality product was achieved through a socialism-based system.

 

I mean, Libertarianism was already demolished about 2-3 years ago, most people on this forum abandoned it. But this easily, EASILY, puts the nail in the coffin.

 

The Onion couldn't make Rand Paul look this stupid in a headline, if they tried.

Private hospital fees are not subsidized by the Government, unless there's different regulations in other provinces that I am unaware of. Only private health care insurances will cover the cost of such an operation here as far as I know.

 

Am I a libertarian? How is that relevant to his speech in congress that I posted? You're willing to deny everything the man says because he seek to have better treatment at a cheaper cost. I can hardly blame him.

 

You're not going to convince me that socialist utopian free health care is a beautiful thing when it's failing hard currently in my province. Either way, apparently we're paying for foreigners now? Sounds great alright, as if we aren't being drowned enough by taxation as it is.

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1 minute ago, Ramza said:

Private hospital fees are not subsidized by the Government, unless there's different regulations in other provinces that I am unaware of. Only private health care insurances will cover the cost of such an operation here as far as I know.

 

Am I a libertarian? How is that relevant to his speech in congress that I posted? You're willing to deny everything the man says because he seek to have better treatment at a cheaper cost. I can hardly blame him.

 

You're not going to convince me that socialist utopian free health care is a beautiful thing when it's failing hard currently in my province. Either way, apparently we're paying for foreigners now? Sounds great alright, as if we aren't being drowned enough by taxation as it is.

This one is, because their costs are subsidized with the patients that come in there that are Canadians.

 

They are performing the same procedure, but charging him instead of the government.

 

The reason why the procedure costs $6000 is because the hospital costs are stabilized by the fact that all customers are covered by universal healthcare, and the price is negotiated with one single payer instead of a free market system.

 

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Am I a libertarian? How is that relevant to his speech in congress that I posted?

I love how you pretend to play stupid. You just used Rand Paul as your attempt to sound smart.

 

I just proved to you that he has no credibility. WHOOSH.

 

Your anecdote about your province is irrelevant.

 

For all we know, it may be horrible over there because they have people like you who can't tell their ass from a hole in the ground.

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Just now, jehurey said:

This one is, because their costs are subsidized with the patients that come in there that are Canadians.

 

They are performing the same procedure, but charging him instead of the government.

 

The reason why the procedure costs $6000 is because the hospital costs are stabilized by the fact that all customers are covered by universal healthcare, and the price is negotiated with one single payer instead of a free market system.

 

I love how you pretend to play stupid. You just used Rand Paul as your attempt to sound smart.

 

I just proved to you that he has no credibility. WHOOSH.

 

Your anecdote about your province is irrelevant.

 

For all we know, it may be horrible over there because they have people like you who can't tell their ass from a hole in the ground.

No credibility on his policies on private health care systems perhaps. 

 

But not about everything he just said there which as nothing to do at all with health care systems.

 

This is just another one of your attempt to not threat the subject matter and divert attention elsewhere. Just like when you call everyone an an alt-right and immediately deny everything the person said. I mean you think Joe Rogan is alt right. lmfao

 

It's horrible here because socialist ideas of Government ran sectors isn't always the best option. My province is doing good on certain things, like the energy we get from Hydro Quebec or the gambling/casino businesses from Loto Quebec, not so much when you look at the sales of booze (SAQ), weed (SQDC), universal welfare and the health care system. Or Federal post system that has been on bankruptcy for the past decade. 

 

Don't listen to people who lives in such socialist concepts and their failures, Jehurey. Close your ears and continue to pretend it would all be for the best. As if Gov ran sectors arent rife with corruptions and poorly managed by idiots. These sectors wouldn't fail so hard if they were private, for the simple reason that they would be doing everything in their power to make a profit, something my Government doesn't seem all that concerned about. Let's raise taxes instead.

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