Trump Campaign collusion with Russia has been confirmed.

[Goukosan 2,249]

@Ramzaand @DynamiteCop!....  Russia initially targeted both and then this happened.

 

Russians tried to hack Clinton emails same day Trump publicly asked them to, says Russia probe indictment

Documents released by Special Counsel Robert Mueller in connection with the indictment of 12 Russian intelligence officers, claim the hackers targeted a domain used by Ms Clinton’s personal office “on or about July 27 2016”.

 

Trump - “Russia, if you are listening. I hope you are able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by the press.”

 

 

[DynamiteCop 2,085]

14 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

@Ramzaand @DynamiteCop!....  Russia initially targeted both and then this happened.

 

Russians tried to hack Clinton emails same day Trump publicly asked them to, says Russia probe indictment

Documents released by Special Counsel Robert Mueller in connection with the indictment of 12 Russian intelligence officers, claim the hackers targeted a domain used by Ms Clinton’s personal office “on or about July 27 2016”.

 

Trump - “Russia, if you are listening. I hope you are able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by the press.”

 

 

An off-hand hyperbolic remark during a news conference is now conflated as collusion, lmfao 

 

[Goukosan 2,249]

11 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said:

An off-hand hyperbolic remark during a news conference is now conflated as collusion, lmfao 

 

no actually collusion came from the fact that Manifort (the Trump campaign manager) and his lawyers admitted to doing 

Edited January 15, 2019 by Goukosan

[jehurey 3,227]

You know what I love the most, about all of this.

 

Your average 20-something, internet-browsing, cargo-short wearing, American guy LOOOOOOOOVES conspiracy theories.

 

This is undeniable.  These guys are responsible to helping spread most conspiracy theories. Every little small bit of information, they will run to it.

 

And now we have the biggest conspiracy of our time. And UNLIKE other conspiracy theories...........we have names, dates, locations, MONEY-trails, intelligence reports that state basic events and conclusions.

 

We have actual, real criminal charges, indictments, trials, jurors telling the press that they heard the evidence and could obviously see that the defendant was guilty. We have defendants PLEADING GUILTY. We have defendants in a courtroom giving a CONFESSION of their guilt and NAMING OTHER PEOPLE who were involved in the crime.

 

And on top of that, we have the core person of the entire conspiracy GOING ON TELEVISION and plainly admitting things that clearly support the accussation of a conspiracy. We have tons of previous video evidence that also supports it.

 

We have allllllllllllllllllllllll of that for the very first time ever and these 20-something guy are like ".....pffffffffft, whatever, that's a total nothing burger."

[kokujin 558]

nothing burger sweetie.   move out the midwest and go to a coast motherfucker.lose the super troopers mustache you obv got going on. rape a  17 year old blonde girl and become a MAN.

[Goukosan 2,249]

"Senate Republicans blocked a House-passed package to reopen the federal government for a second time in as many weeks on Tuesday.

 

Democratic Sens. Chris Van Hollen (Md.) and Ben Cardin (Md.) asked for consent to take up a package of bills that would reopen the federal government.

 

One bill would fund the Department of Homeland Security through Feb. 8, while the other would fund the rest of the impacted departments and agencies through Sept. 30, the end of the fiscal year. "

 

 

DynamiteCop - Bbbut it's the Democrats 

[DynamiteCop 2,085]

2 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

"Senate Republicans blocked a House-passed package to reopen the federal government for a second time in as many weeks on Tuesday.

 

Democratic Sens. Chris Van Hollen (Md.) and Ben Cardin (Md.) asked for consent to take up a package of bills that would reopen the federal government.

 

One bill would fund the Department of Homeland Security through Feb. 8, while the other would fund the rest of the impacted departments and agencies through Sept. 30, the end of the fiscal year. "

 

 

DynamiteCop - Bbbut it's the Democrats 

It falls to the Democrats feet when the cost of the shutdown exceeds the cost of the reason the shutdown remains in effect, that has already happened. 

 

It's not about money now, it's about agenda, ironically an agenda they supported just a few years back.

[Goukosan 2,249]

Just now, DynamiteCop! said:

It falls to the Democrats feet when the cost of the shutdown exceeds the cost of the reason the shutdown remains in effect, that has already happened. 

 

It's not about money now, it's about agenda, ironically an agenda they supported just a few years back.

It falls on the democrats feet for a shutdown called under a republican house and senate 

 

 

It also falls on the democrats that the Republicans already rejected two options to reopen the government. 

[DynamiteCop 2,085]

Just now, Goukosan said:

It falls on the democrats feet for a shutdown called under a republican house and senate 

 

 

It also falls on the democrats that the Republicans already rejected two options to reopen the government. 

Two options that didn't come with the money to fund the wall. As this shutdown has now exceeded the cost of that wall funding it's quite clear their entire narrative was a lie. 

 

Democrats are destroying themselves in this. 

[Goukosan 2,249]

1 minute ago, DynamiteCop! said:

Two options that didn't come with the money to fund the wall. As this shutdown has now exceeded the cost of that wall funding it's quite clear their entire narrative was a lie. 

 

Democrats are destroying themselves in this. 

You missed the part where they shut down started under a republican house and Senate that had two years to do it and didn't back the wall 

[DynamiteCop 2,085]

Just now, Goukosan said:

You missed the part where they shut down started under a republican house and Senate that had two years to do it and didn't back the wall 

As already stated, republicans could have only of ever had 51 votes in the senate, you need 60 which means 9 democrats would have needed to play ball as well. Why are you so stupid...

[Goukosan 2,249]

Just now, DynamiteCop! said:

As already stated, republicans could have only of ever had 51 votes in the senate, you need 60 which means 9 democrats would have needed to play ball as well. Why are you so stupid...

 

3 hours ago, Goukosan said:

"the GOP Congress never really came close to approving billions of dollars for the wall, though there were certainly opportunities for Republicans at several points to win as much as $25 billion for the border while the GOP was in charge of Congress in 2017 and 2018 – but those efforts failed as most GOP lawmakers backed away from possible bipartisan immigration compromises."

 

As Republicans worked on two years of spending bills during the time that the GOP controlled the Congress under President Trump, lawmakers twice approved $1.6 billion for border security – but only for fencing and other defenses" 

 

https://www.boston25news.com/news/politics/border-wall-fight-didnt-really-start-until-after-gop-lost-house/903210928

 

like I said... Republicans did not back him for the wall when they had multiple opportunities to.    They gave him 1.6  billion TWICE for boarder security and fencing etc...... that's 3.2 billion.... of which be has done NOTHING WITH and lied and said he did. 

 

Don't forget... Mexico was supposed to pay for it... lol

 

and now he wants 5 more billion when you haven't done anything with the first 3.2 billion for a wall that your own republican house and senate did not support? 

 

 

in case you missed it. 

 

 

"the GOP Congress never really came close to approving billions of dollars for the wall, though there were certainly opportunities for Republicans at several points to win as much as $25 billion for the border while the GOP was in charge of Congress in 2017 and 2018 – but those efforts failed as most GOP lawmakers backed away from possible bipartisan immigration compromises."

 

 

lol 

[DynamiteCop 2,085]

1 minute ago, Goukosan said:

 

in case you missed it. 

 

 

"the GOP Congress never really came close to approving billions of dollars for the wall, though there were certainly opportunities for Republicans at several points to win as much as $25 billion for the border while the GOP was in charge of Congress in 2017 and 2018 – but those efforts failed as most GOP lawmakers backed away from possible bipartisan immigration compromises."

 

 

lol 

And even if pursued they still would not have gotten enough votes because their majority was not large enough to get anything passed on their own... Moron...

[Goukosan 2,249]

10 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said:

And even if pursued they still would not have gotten enough votes because their majority was not large enough to get anything passed on their own... Moron...

"there were certainly opportunities for Republicans at several points to win as much as $25 billion for the border while the GOPwas in charge of Congress in 2017 and 2018" 

 

[DynamiteCop 2,085]

Just now, Goukosan said:

"there were certainly opportunities for Republicans at several points to win as much as $25 billion for the border while the GOPwas in charge of Congress in 2017 and 2018" 

 

Which were? With what votes? With what ability to make this happen?

 

To quote your butt buddy "Be specific".

Edited January 15, 2019 by DynamiteCop!

[Goukosan 2,249]

3 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said:

Which were? With what votes? With what ability to make this happen?

 

To quote your butt buddy "Be specific".

most GOP lawmakers backed away from possible bipartisan immigration compromises

 

[DynamiteCop 2,085]

4 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

most GOP lawmakers backed away from possible bipartisan immigration compromises

 

No, explain to me what these 'several' opportunities were that republicans did not act upon. There's no route to the wall even when they had control because the voting power wasn't there, so what were these unused opportunities?

 

You're good at quoting surface level trash like the above but where is the actual information for these opportunities they didn't capitalize on? Be specific.

Edited January 15, 2019 by DynamiteCop!

[Goukosan 2,249]

1 minute ago, DynamiteCop! said:

No, explain to me what these 'several' opportunities were that republicans did not act upon. There's no route to the wall even when they had control because the voting power wasn't there, so what were these unused opportunities?

 

You're good at quoting surface level trash like the above but where is the actual information for these opportunities they didn't capitalize on?

I already posted where they approved 1.6 billion for the Southern Boarder wall... TWICE. 

 

Bro you can't be that dense.... oh wait... you are 

[DynamiteCop 2,085]

1 minute ago, Goukosan said:

I already posted where they approved 1.6 billion for the Southern Boarder wall... TWICE. 

 

Bro you can't be that dense.... oh wait... you are 

To which I hit you with this bomb...

 

[Goukosan 2,249]

Just now, DynamiteCop! said:

To which I hit you with this bomb...

 

You call that a bombshell?... lmfao 

 

Hold this Nuke 

 

Bbbut the Democrats

 

 

1. Trump 2017 and 2018 budgets. President Trump’s first budget, unveiled in May 2017, had money specifically designated ‘to construct a physical wall along the southern border,’ as part of a $2.6 billion border security plan, which included extra border patrol and immigration agents. In the President’s second budget plan issued in February of 2018, the Trump Administration again had what the White House labeled “critical investments” in border security to combat illegal immigration, budget plans which included “$1.6 billion for construction of the border wall.” President Trump wanted much more for the wall, but even his budget plans which were sent to Congress didn’t come close to the $5.7 billion he is requesting now, during this partial government shutdown fight.

 

 

 

 

 

 2) Republicans ignore the wall in two Omnibus spending plans. Just like is happening now in early 2019, the Congress took well into 2017 and 2018 to finish their budget work (which should have done by the previous October). In both of those budgets, Republicans in the Congress approved money for border security – like fencing – but not a wall. For example, in May 2017, the GOP Congress okayed $341 million “to replace approximately 40 miles of existing primary pedestrian and vehicle border fencing along the southwest border.” In the 2018 Omnibus, which was voted on in late March of 2018, the President received the more specific approval of nearly $1.6 billion in fencing and border barriers. You can see the list of projects below. Again – none of that is for a ‘border wall.’

 

 

 

3)  Immigration reform efforts run aground in Senate.In February of 2018, the Senate capped off an acrimonious several weeks of debate and negotiation with the President by defeating four different immigration plans. The one offered by GOP Senators with the most money for the border wall – $25 billion – received just 39 votes, the least amount of support of any of the immigration packages voted on by Senators. There was also a bipartisan immigration plan which included $25 billion for border security, paired with a 10-12 year pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrant “Dreamers.” That plan received 54 votes, but short of the 60 needed. Republicans and the President could have secured funding for the President’s wall with this plan, backed by Sen. Mike Rounds (R-SD) and Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) – but it was opposed by most GOP Senators because of the DACA provisions. No compromise – no wall.

 

 

 

4) President talks as if he’s already secured wall funding. Throughout all of the battles in the House and Senate over immigration in 2017 and 2018, President Trump repeatedly made comments in public which would lead his supporters to believe that his administration was already building new sections of wall, when in fact, the money approved by Congress had gone to repair earlier walls, and to deploy new fencing – but not any of the wall he had proposed in the 2016 campaign. “Not happy with $1.6 billion, but it does start the wall,” the President said when he signed the Omnibus in March 2018. “Just so you understand, we have $1.6 billion,” the President said in April. “We have $1.6 billion, and we're starting brand-new sections of walls. But we need to have a wall that's about 800 miles,” Mr. Trump added. Even on Twitter, while the Congress never gave him any money for new sections of wall along the border, the President made things look different on the wall.

 

 

 

 

 

5. GOP Senate looks to repeat the $1.6 billion for 2019. In developing spending bills for 2019, the Senate Appropriations Committee – controlled by the Republican Party – put together a homeland security funding measure which kept the amount of money for border security at $1.6 billion, the same level okayed by the Omnibus funding bill which Congress approved in March of 2018. In the funding bill for border security efforts in 2019, there is no mention of a border wall in the Senate plan, but there is a very specific mention that the $1.6 billion “shall be available for approximately 65 miles of pedestrian fencing” on the southwest border, in the Rio Grande River sector in Texas. This Homeland Security Appropriations bill was never brought to the Senate floor for a vote, either before or after the 2018 elections.

 

 

 

 

 

6. GOP House bill advertises wall funding – but gives few details. As the House Appropriations Committee rolled out its version of the Homeland Security funding bill for 2019, the GOP headline was that Republicans were giving the President nearly $5 billion for his wall. President Trump was very happy, as on July 18 he tweeted his thanks to Rep. Kevin Yoder (R-KS), who was in charge of the homeland security funding measure. But there was one puzzling part about this GOP bill – if you actually read the text of the legislative language and/or the report language for the bill, there is no actual mention of a wall. Instead, in debate, fencing was referred to more than anything else. As you can see here, there’s no mention of a wall in the text of the bill put forward by House Republicans in the summer of 2018.