Vini 430 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Got deleted or what? What a fuckin idiot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teh_Diplomat 2,054 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Such healthy discussion, so valid theories. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,026 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 It's in a mass grave 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepKilla 473 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 [This message has been censored by the administration for non-conformist thoughts]. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. House 3,371 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I wish I was able to discuss Nazi Germany history without it dissolving into racial rhetorics and other bullshit. That's the least interesting part. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,026 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I'm sure Stalin said some uplifting things too while killing 50 million people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teh_Diplomat 2,054 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 What no love for the home Pol Pot? How about Chairman Mao You see that's the real racism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vini 430 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Ramza said: I wish I was able to discuss Nazi Germany history without it dissolving into racial rhetorics and other bullshit. That's the least interesting part. We can do that without a problem. Not when the thread starts with agreeing with Hitler's points. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepKilla 473 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, Vini said: We can do that without a problem. Not when the thread starts with agreeing with Hitler's points. Yeah, that's too dangerous. But I thought it was just a forum post and didn't mean nothing ?? Funny how that works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhytre 2,753 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 In a way it's kinda sad how so many people can't discuss some sensitive topics without getting uncomfortable and shutting the conversation down preemptively. If there's really racist slurs being thrown around you can always wield the ban hammer. Even with dark humor people get all butt-hurt, but that's partially meant to happen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teh_Diplomat 2,054 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, bhytre said: In a way it's kinda sad how so many people can't discuss some sensitive topics without getting uncomfortable and shutting the conversation down preemptively. If there's really racist slurs being thrown around you can always wield the ban hammer. Even with dark humor people get all butt-hurt, but that's partially meant to happen Dude, plenty of us can bring up dark humor (GD's offensive meme thread comes to mind) without the need to go with: "Hitler, how bad was he really though?" and think that's some kind of hot take or non-conformist thought. I mean that's very conformist thought in Alt-Reich circles and Stormfront. A non-conformist thought would be to say that the Media and both extremes love this current 'Culture War' because they can get on their tribal/partisan drums and rally their respective bases and use it to their respective advantage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vini 430 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, SheepKilla said: Yeah, that's too dangerous. But I thought it was just a forum post and didn't mean nothing ?? Funny how that works. Yeah you're a regular free speech hero. When you start a thread with agreeing with some of Hitler's ideas you don't get to play vicim of censorship afterwards. Just take the L and move on. His ideas are dangerous yes, they were perfectly calibrated to inflate tribalism to the point of genocide. I'm not personally afraid of debating his ideas, I can disprove that egomaniacal flamboyant little faggot's ideas easily using what we have learned about biology, consciousness, tribalism and human nature in the past half a century. That's not the issue. The issue is your intent, which seems suspect as fuck. When it comes to some of the worst people in history like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot etc you're required to take a moral stand in your intent of discussing their ideas. Otherwise we're in sociopath territory and nobody's interested in debating sociopaths about anything. Edited January 21, 2019 by Vini Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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TLHBO 2,158 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 4 hours ago, SheepKilla said: [This message has been censored by the administration for non-conformist thoughts]. Pretty soon we will be like Resetera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,084 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, TLHBO said: Pretty soon we will be like Resetera. Well it seems like 3/4 of this forum are leftists so it's already almost there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voidler 1,675 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I don’t understand why you righ wingers would EVER identify with Hitler. Somebody please explain it to me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,084 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Voidler said: I don’t understand why you righ wingers would EVER identify with Hitler. Somebody please explain it to me Because Hitler and his movement was not the sum of its parts. Just because he did horrible things doesn't mean there was no level of sanity in his thought, wisdom or foresight for the direction society is heading. Regardless of what he did he saw things happening and things that will happen that no one else did. There's a reason single issue voters exist, you don't have to agree with everything someone or something stands for to find values in aspects of what they do. What I don't understand is how you could even pose that question, I mean this should be carnal knowledge.. Look at Europe now, it's in absolute shambles, multiculturalism is rotting it from the inside out. We as Americans see this happening from across the pond, do not want it to happen here and are taking a stand. There's nothing that says multiculturalism works, that it's better, that it's some kind of moral issue, that it's the way we should move forward, the experiment is failing horribly. The reality is and it's empirically proven throughout all of human history that people work best when left to their own kind and their own devices. The rest simply brings about confrontation and societal rot because those who are immigrating should be forced to integrate but simply refuse to and bring all of their issues and problems from their home countries and cultures with them. They propagate the very things they are leaving in the countries they move to, the negative in what they bring far outweigh the positives. Edited January 21, 2019 by DynamiteCop! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepKilla 473 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Voidler said: I don’t understand why you righ wingers would EVER identify with Hitler. Somebody please explain it to me Because the policies you pushed on us are so horrifying that it's become appealing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voidler 1,675 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 hours ago, SheepKilla said: Because the policies you pushed on us are so horrifying that it's become appealing. Genocide, authoritarianism, mass censorship, Eliminating freedom of speech, strict gun rights Sound like very right wing values Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,084 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 4 hours ago, DynamiteCop! said: Because Hitler and his movement was not the sum of its parts. Just because he did horrible things doesn't mean there was no level of sanity in his thought, wisdom or foresight for the direction society is heading. Regardless of what he did he saw things happening and things that will happen that no one else did. There's a reason single issue voters exist, you don't have to agree with everything someone or something stands for to find values in aspects of what they do. What I don't understand is how you could even pose that question, I mean this should be carnal knowledge.. Look at Europe now, it's in absolute shambles, multiculturalism is rotting it from the inside out. We as Americans see this happening from across the pond, do not want it to happen here and are taking a stand. There's nothing that says multiculturalism works, that it's better, that it's some kind of moral issue, that it's the way we should move forward, the experiment is failing horribly. The reality is and it's empirically proven throughout all of human history that people work best when left to their own kind and their own devices. The rest simply brings about confrontation and societal rot because those who are immigrating should be forced to integrate but simply refuse to and bring all of their issues and problems from their home countries and cultures with them. They propagate the very things they are leaving in the countries they move to, the negative in what they bring far outweigh the positives. 3 minutes ago, Voidler said: Genocide, authoritarianism, mass censorship, Eliminating freedom of speech, strict gun rights Sound like very right wing values Don't think I didn't notice this sidestep lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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