bhytre 2,753 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 That $2M diamond that you just showed me? Oh I swallowed it, it's inside my body now, it's mine and I'm keeping it. Sorry Mr. Jeweler, my body my choice 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,026 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 This will always be a complicated issue with a lot of grey area. There is no black and white answer. My mom got pregnant with me when she was 17, she wanted to get an abortion but changed her mind. My dad married her and they have been married ever since, so it worked out for them and me. But the thought of my mother aborting me because they didn't want me really sucks to think about. I would think giving me up for adoption would be the best solution in most cases. But if it's for a medical reason I understand why an abortion is necessary. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,206 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: Carry to term and adopt out. It's murder regardless, the inside/outside thing is nonsensical rhetoric. You're terminating the life of a person that would otherwise have been born without intervention. It would have otherwise been born if the person giving birth wanted to give birth to it. If they don’t? Guess what? Too bad, doesn’t matter, not your body, not your choice. Again... WHY DO YOU CARE? What If you knew your wife would die during pregnancy? Or worse, become a vegetable? You gonna force her into that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,206 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, bhytre said: That $2M diamond that you just showed me? Oh I swallowed it, it's inside my body now, it's mine and I'm keeping it. Sorry Mr. Jeweler, my body my choice That is theft Edited February 5, 2019 by ghostz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,206 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Cookester15 said: This will always be a complicated issue with a lot of grey area. There is no black and white answer. My mom got pregnant with me when she was 17, she wanted to get an abortion but changed her mind. My dad married her and they have been married ever since, so it worked out for them and me. But the thought of my mother aborting me because they didn't want me really sucks to think about. I would think giving me up for adoption would be the best solution in most cases. But if it's for a medical reason I understand why an abortion is necessary. Why does that suck? Your mother did not know you. If she chose to abort you, you’d have no idea, and she wouldn’t know what she aborted. Win win. Edited February 5, 2019 by ghostz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,026 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, ghostz said: Why does that suck? Your mother did not know you. If she chose to abort you, you’d have no idea, and she wouldn’t know what she aborted. Win win. Sucks I wouldn't get a chance at life and become the admin of systemwars Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, ghostz said: It would have otherwise been born if the person giving birth wanted to give birth to it. If they don’t? Guess what? Too bad, doesn’t matter, not your body, not your choice. Again... WHY DO YOU CARE? What If you knew your wife would die during pregnancy? Or worse, become a vegetable? You gonna force her into that? I care because I value human life, I value life in general. No one or thing should be deprived of life without just cause. Because you think you made a mistake or don't want to deal with it anymore isn't valid justification for ending a life. To your second point of course not, if the baby is going to result in killing the mother which could also in turn kill the baby steps need to be taken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,206 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, DynamiteCop! said: I care because I value human life, I value life in general. No one or thing should be deprived of life without just cause. Because you think you made a mistake or don't want to deal with it anymore isn't valid justification for ending a life. To your second point of course not, if the baby is going to result in killing the mother which could also in turn kill the baby steps need to be taken. And why are you the almighty decision maker of “just cause” Edited February 5, 2019 by ghostz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
James Skywalker 528 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Why does shit like this not get locked but my threads do? Mine are just as valuable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McWicked 825 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 minute ago, DynamiteCop! said: I care because I value human life, I value life in general. You want to put landmines on the border. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 Just now, ghostz said: And why are you the all-mighty decision maker of “just cause” Dude, shut the fuck up. It's clear cut what valid reasoning is and is not, and what is justifiable and what is not. If you couldn't differentiate you'd either already be dead or in prison. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 minute ago, McWicked said: You want to put landmines on the border. That's not murder, that's not taking a life. That's suicide at the behest of the invader. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhytre 2,753 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 minute ago, McWicked said: You want to put landmines on the border. Nobody dies if they don't try to illegally cross it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
James Skywalker 528 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I swear you guys have already talked about this, line for line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,206 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: Dude, shut the fuck up. It's clear cut what valid reasoning is and is not, and what is justifiable and what is not. If you couldn't differentiate you'd either already be dead or in prison. No it’s not at all clear cut. That’s why I favor my stance. The parent that gives birth gets the decision. Don’t make shit laws based on opinions. Laws should be on facts. Deno out here tryna make abortion’s like pass interference calls smh. It either is or it isn’t. Edited February 5, 2019 by ghostz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,206 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) I’m all for landmines on the border and I’m pro choice. How does that work? Edited February 5, 2019 by ghostz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,206 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Subjective abortion is like subjective hate speech laws. They don’t work. It is either illegal or legal, I see 0 gray area Quote Link to post Share on other sites
James Skywalker 528 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, ghostz said: Subjective abortion is like subjective hate speech laws. They don’t work. It is either illegal or legal, I see 0 gray area It must be true - it rhymes. It must be right. ;) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SheepKilla 473 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 We should set up work camps near the border. Deport the illegals there and force them to work their asses off for free for a few years to help our economy. Watch illegal immigration go down to 0. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
James Skywalker 528 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 It’s not possible for anything to go down to zero. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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