lynux3 2,049 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Is it a Phil problem or is Xbox Game Studios creatively bankrupt? I think it's a mix of both, but more of the latter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: How did Rare go from a proliphic developer to pure trash. Remedy went from Max Payne to whatever they shit now etc. Two replacement studios for Halo and Gears are also mediocre and can't get either series to adequate quality worthy of the franchises. All Phil managed. People come and go... are you seriously this retarded? Xbox got the short end of the stick at MS from the higher ups back in the day, so they literally had low quality teams with small budgets. They just have a very last gen low budget approach to anything that isn't a pillar franchise. Look at State of Decay 2, or Crackdown even. These games didn't have big budgets... but they COULD have been much better graphically and artistically which would have really improved their perception. Believe it or not, but even though Crackdown 3 is a 2019 release, 5 or so years after the Xbox One launch, it still has suffered the effects from those days. Just because Phil was in charge at that time, doesn't mean he was given the budget to improve the situation for those developers from the higher ups. The game was likely in development hell for a long time and is lucky to have even released. Poor management, but the developers aren't exactly known for high quality games either.. I doubt a higher budget would have changed that. I said this before when MS announced Halo Infinite.. Notice how they did so using an example of a NEW engine, designed specifically for huge open levels with tons of detail and cutting edge effects? They did that for a reason. That right there shows me a change in attitude from them. When Sony shows an announces games, or at least talks about them, they're always sure to mention something about the engine running the game. When The Last of Us 2 was shown, Shawn Layden said "here's something from their updated engine, running in real-time yada yada" and people see the visuals and it's immediately interesting. Because Sony always knows to tell their hardcore fans that their constantly improving their engines and tech... and obviously it shows. They create flashy things which look cinematic. They show their engine features off and people love that shit. That's what MS was doing with Halo Infinite. It's the sense that this isn't just some new game running on another old engine. When I saw that announcement, combined with the classic looking Halo design with Master Chief... clearly to invoke a sense of getting back to the roots of when the series was great. I said ok.. these guys are rebuilding this franchise. This isn't just another "go and make another Halo game" it's more like "ok guys we've got to save this franchise because we're not going to get away with another Halo 5".. That immediately makes it more interesting and makes me feel like now they care and have something to prove. Most of MS' releases aren't like that. You get the sense that they don't care. Of course, that's not it entirely. I'm not saying their problem is that they don't make new engines for everything, there's also the fact that their games are mediocre in other ways as well.. but it's all about the perception that they don't seem to want to raise the bar. Crackdown 3 was essentially the last game from the infamous 2014 roster.. and now that it's released, the focus really comes to the next wave of first party MS games. I think their catalog is going to improve dramatically at the very end of this gen and beginning of next. I think Ninja Theory will do good for them and The Initiative will very likely be Sony's Naughty Dog studio. They are poaching top notch talent for that studio, and as far as I know, they have the absolute freedom to do what they want, with the mandate that they raise the bar. Playground Games are a top notch studio and I don't believe that they will put out a bad game. It's quite likely that their adventure RPG will be beautiful and a technical showpiece for the next console/PC. Phil's not in charge of managing the studios anymore anyway. So if things change now, then Phil's likely the reason.. because budgets are bigger now and Xbox is a top focus for MS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Phil has been the XBox first party manager since 2009, when the actual decline started to happen. He was even around for the OG XBox first party. Phil is a result and part of the system, he wasn't some random janitor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quad Damage 1,717 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 cr4ckdown 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaz 2,439 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Quad Damage said: cr4ckdown 3 lol MS isn't even trying 6ix of thieves 5tate of decay cr4ckdown the next halo must score a 0 whoops i forgot, 1 is the lowest score everywhere, right? I get it. it was scaleb0und. Edited February 16, 2019 by kaz 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quad Damage 1,717 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, kaz said: lol MS isn't even trying 6ix of thieves 5tate of decay cr4ckdown the next halo must score a 0 whoops i forgot, 1 is the lowest score everywhere, right? I get it. it was scaleb0und. there’s already h8lo 5 and dont forget “Below A” Edited February 16, 2019 by Quad Damage Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Teh_Diplomat 2,054 Posted February 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2019 16 hours ago, madmaltese said: Sometimes for me to truly appreciate just how good Sony has been to us I need to remind myself what gaming would be like if I just played on xbox. Apart from Spicoli - and his four (or is it now 5?); Xboxes attached to various household appliances, every lemming games on other platforms. Bhtyre talks about PSVR in the Gaming Thread, DC has everything in a basement that looks like what a 13yr old might imagine NASA Launch Control looks like from their perspective, even JonB bought a Dell and promptly upgraded it. Lemmings 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,049 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 35 minutes ago, Teh_Diplomat said: Apart from Spicoli - and his four (or is it now 5?); Xboxes attached to various household appliances, every lemming games on other platforms. Bhtyre talks about PSVR in the Gaming Thread, DC has everything in a basement that looks like what a 13yr old might imagine NASA Launch Control looks like from their perspective, even JonB bought a Dell and promptly upgraded it. Lemmings That's for damn sure. dumBo turned hermit faster than Microsoft's Xbox division. Evertying is on PC now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,227 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 There's people on this forum......on THIS fucking forum, who spent $500 for a launch Xbox, and then $400 for an Xbox One S, and then another $500 for an Xbox One X. .......for these types of exclusives? Good Lord. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,607 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Teh_Diplomat said: Apart from Spicoli - and his four (or is it now 5?); Xboxes attached to various household appliances, every lemming games on other platforms. Bhtyre talks about PSVR in the Gaming Thread, DC has everything in a basement that looks like what a 13yr old might imagine NASA Launch Control looks like from their perspective, even JonB bought a Dell and promptly upgraded it. Lemmings Not sure how being a gamer is considered ownage on a game forum , but you do you , DUMBO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McWicked 825 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Teh_Diplomat said: Apart from Spicoli - and his four (or is it now 5?); Xboxes attached to various household appliances, every lemming games on other platforms. Bhtyre talks about PSVR in the Gaming Thread, DC has everything in a basement that looks like what a 13yr old might imagine NASA Launch Control looks like from their perspective, even JonB bought a Dell and promptly upgraded it. Lemmings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaz 2,439 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 It's funny and all but I think DC doesn't deserve it. He's legit retarded. I'm not joking and I'm not talking about OCD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 14 hours ago, Jon2B said: Not sure how being a gamer is considered ownage on a game forum , but you do you , DUMBO Yes.... it was smart of you to realize Xbox1 sucks 5 years later than everyone else on this board Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 15 hours ago, jehurey said: There's people on this forum......on THIS fucking forum, who spent $500 for a launch Xbox, and then $400 for an Xbox One S, and then another $500 for an Xbox One X. .......for these types of exclusives? Good Lord. Slow Jonny did that.. and then turn around and bought a gaming PC because Xbox1 sucks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spicalicious 128 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) drive-by XBOX NUMBER ONE CONSOLE!1!1! drive-by pew pew Edited February 17, 2019 by S#$@%^i Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Honestly MS's results this gen have been pathetic. Their first party is worse than the output of THQ Nordic. Like what the fuck. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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