HolyAx 297 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Just now, kaz said: I do have my shit together but I'm still depressed. I drink less alcohol tho, with professional help. Thanks for asking, bubsi. you still havent figured out dota makes you depressed? fake gratification ftl Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaz 2,439 Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 minute ago, HolyAx said: you still havent figured out dota makes you depressed? fake gratification ftl It actually helps. Dota is amazing, a team based game where you can flame not only your enemies but your team mates for every little mistake. No for real it really isn't the problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HolyAx 297 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Just now, kaz said: It actually helps. Dota is amazing, a team based game where you can flame not only your enemies but your team mates for every little mistake. No for real it really isn't the problem. Whats the problem in your opinion then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaz 2,439 Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, HolyAx said: Whats the problem in your opinion then? Something else. This thread is about napping man. Edited March 7, 2019 by kaz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabo 442 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Yeah, but it's only when I'm sick. A nap does more for me than medicine does for some reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ike★ 2,906 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 If I can avoid them, I do. It's really hard to fight that urge to collapse on my bed after a long day but I like to go work out instead and get my full night's sleep instead of napping and feeling tired and groggy all day. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HolyAx 297 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 11 hours ago, kaz said: Something else. This thread is about napping man. Uh-huh keep telling yourself that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flazeda_warrior 73 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) sleep deprivation can make you delirious, further detached from others' perception of reality, ironically living in a dream. Think of sleep on the other hand as the Matrix scene when Neo learns to ride a helicopter. When you sleep your brain takes all the data you consumed from your wake period and shapes you day by day, who you develop as. Give it up to your brain for doing the most it can to make you adaptive, shield you from trauma, to self-analyze and learn from failure. Its most effective during sleep and also, believe it; boredom. Take a break from your naps and your dota, sit in "boring" silence for a while without drinking or any other distracting gratification. It'll do wonders for your depression. Edited March 8, 2019 by zwarior 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flazeda_warrior 73 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, HolyAx said: you still havent figured out dota makes you depressed? fake gratification ftl all gratification are fake. It's intrinsically cyclical. You have to repeat the pleasurable activity to avoid the displeasure of not doing it. Not until you reach a plateau, or rock bottom. That separation between "this is pleasure" v "this is no longer pleasurable" can lead to breaking the cycle and moving on from that activity. that line crossed, called by Freud the "pleasure principle". But then Lacan comes along and explains when someone still continues the activity despite the lack of pleasure. It's to go beyond the pleasure principle, seeking to augment pleasure out of not getting pleasure out of it. He calls it Juissance. Think of having sex just for the sake of it/your partner even when you're not in the mood. So you want to amp up the "hole in the sheet slow thrusting" to some more kinky shit to get in the mood for it again. You get obsessed with augmenting it each time the kinky shit gets old, with more newer harder kinks. And before you know it, you are drugged out getting gangraped by 20 guys, bukkake, scat, fisting, and still you're like "not enough". And you're up at like 5am watching porn to find a new kink to try immediately, having escorts on speed dial. or so i heard. Not relatable. not an anecdote. Again, not about me. Edited March 8, 2019 by zwarior 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flazeda_warrior 73 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 you know what, i could have just used food as an example. Eating when you're not hungry is a great example of gratification. Eating when you're not hungry and when its not satisfying enough so you eat even more, is "juissance" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaz 2,439 Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 6 hours ago, HolyAx said: Uh-huh keep telling yourself that. I'm sorry dude but not everyone can have the energy levels of a walking neutrino like you because not everyone gets off by drawing mickey mouse porn, you fucking psycho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaz 2,439 Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 6 hours ago, zwarior said: sleep deprivation can make you delirious, further detached from others' perception of reality, ironically living in a dream. Think of sleep on the other hand as the Matrix scene when Neo learns to ride a helicopter. When you sleep your brain takes all the data you consumed from your wake period and shapes you day by day, who you develop as. Give it up to your brain for doing the most it can to make you adaptive, shield you from trauma, to self-analyze and learn from failure. Its most effective during sleep and also, believe it; boredom. Take a break from your naps and your dota, sit in "boring" silence for a while without drinking or any other distracting gratification. It'll do wonders for your depression. People recommended yoga and meditation. Yoga is boring as fuck but meditation actually did something for me until I started meditating in this group and they played this cheap asian music to relax. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flazeda_warrior 73 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, kaz said: People recommended yoga and meditation. Yoga is boring as fuck but meditation actually did something for me until I started meditating in this group and they played this cheap asian music to relax. Dumb af and just stealing people's money. google meditation count to 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HolyAx 297 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, kaz said: I'm sorry dude but not everyone can have the energy levels of a walking neutrino like you because not everyone gets off by drawing mickey mouse porn, you fucking psycho. See, this is what a bitter person not happy with himself and the world sounds like. I would say something about the Mickey Mouse cartoons Im working on, but I feel pity for you, so I'll just let you have your 'victory' fantasy, because sooner or later you'll realise what hole you are digging. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flazeda_warrior 73 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, HolyAx said: See, this is what a bitter person not happy with himself and the world sounds like. I would say something about the Mickey Mouse cartoons Im working on, but I feel pity for you, so I'll just let you have your 'victory' fantasy, because sooner or later you'll realise what hole you are digging. I quit animation entirely and focusing on fine arts world now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HolyAx 297 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, zwarior said: I quit animation entirely and focusing on fine arts world now what happened to that gig you talked about earlier? Some studio or something Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaz 2,439 Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, zwarior said: Dumb af and just stealing people's money. google meditation count to 10 Yeah I realized that too. It was fun for a while and some people where dope but the teacher and her music choice killed me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flazeda_warrior 73 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, HolyAx said: what happened to that gig you talked about earlier? Some studio or something game studio, I worked to 2d "bone" animate pre-designed vector images of the characters and it was zZz so I quit Edited March 8, 2019 by zwarior Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flazeda_warrior 73 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, kaz said: Yeah I realized that too. It was fun for a while and some people where dope but the teacher and her music choice killed me. people like that give yoga a bad rep and why I've avoided it. One of the prettiest girls I've ever got the pleasure of knowing asked if I was into yoga because she was doing it (as in hint hint join my damn yoga class) but I missed the hint and kept bitching about how fak yoga is ...I still don't do it personally, but I understand it's benefits now. No, not in case I run into her again, why would you presumably think that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 7,728 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Yoga is pretty amazing..if you know what you are doing, or have a great instructor. I do it, occasionally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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