Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 8 core/16 thread Zen2 at 3.2GHz CPU 14.2TF Navi GPU 20GB GDDR6 Ram for games 4GB DDR4 Ram for OS 2TB HDD New info trickling down at resetera. Those specs are fucking insane. 500 dollars with Sony taking a loss or something on hardware? Edited March 17, 2019 by Team 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 Also 880gbps for memory bandwidth. No fucking clue how they are achieving that, but that was the memory bandwidth leak of 2018 as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voidler 1,675 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Cool Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoshino 148 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) When are we going to start seeing consoles with SSDs? (Other than switch) Edited March 17, 2019 by teh_4th Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, teh_4th said: When are we going to start seeing consoles with SSDs? (Other than switch) Next gen is highly like as standard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoshino 148 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Team 2019 said: Next gen is highly like as standard 2tb ssd? These are going to be MINIMUM 600 USD consoles then. That’s at least 200 bucks for the drive alone. Or are you talking about an SSD boot drive and hdd combo? Edited March 17, 2019 by teh_4th Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 minute ago, teh_4th said: 2tb ssd? These are going to be MINIMUM 600 USD consoles then. That’s at least 200 bucks for the drive alone. Or are you talking about an SSD boot drive and hdd combo? Combo obviously. It's unlikely a normal HDD will be able to stream the content fast enough. With more RAM, bandidwth and new CPUs for streaming the HDD needs to catch up. Imagine filling 16 gigs of RAM with a PS4 HDD that already takes time to stream the data to PS4's pathetic 5 gig. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoshino 148 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: Combo obviously. It's unlikely a normal HDD will be able to stream the content fast enough. With more RAM, bandidwth and new CPUs for streaming the HDD needs to catch up. Imagine filling 16 gigs of RAM with a PS4 HDD that already takes time to stream the data to PS4's pathetic 5 gig. Then it cant be a combo drive. A 128gb or even 256gb combo drive will fit 2-4 games max. maybe 1-2 games if the OS is on the SSD (which it should be). You'd be streaming the games from the HDD then anyway. Edited March 17, 2019 by teh_4th Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, teh_4th said: Then it cant be a combo drive. A 128gb or even 256gb combo drive will fit 2-4 games max. maybe 1-2 games if the OS is on the SSD (which it should be). You'd be streaming the games from the HDD then anyway. Aren't hybrids that use SSD as a buffering system much faster than normal HDDs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoshino 148 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Just now, Team 2019 said: Aren't hybrids that use SSD as a buffering system much faster than normal HDDs. I don't believe so, but I could be wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 Everyone expects hybrids as a solution for obvious reasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Not a chance in hell, that would be completely unaffordable until at least 2021. 44 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: Aren't hybrids that use SSD as a buffering system much faster than normal HDDs. Yes, they use they SSD entirely as a cache. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinblade★ 3,889 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 2 hours ago, teh_4th said: When are we going to start seeing consoles with SSDs? (Other than switch) yeah, HDDs are so outdated. They should at least try to start including hybrid drives. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Twinblade said: yeah, HDDs are so outdated. They should at least try to start including hybrid drives. Microsoft did this with the Xbox One Elite, not sure why this didn't translate to other SKU's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: Microsoft did this with the Xbox One Elite, not sure why this didn't translate to other SKU's. Devs probably design games with base HDDs in mind in terms of streaming data into RAM/GPU and LODs. Only upgraded load times ain't worth it. Edited March 17, 2019 by Team 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Just now, Team 2019 said: Devs probably design games with base HDDs in mind in terms of streaming data into RAM/GPU and LODs. Only upgraded load times ain't worth it. You don't have to do anything or code around it, it functions as intended automatically. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 1 minute ago, DynamiteCop! said: You don't have to do anything or code around it, it functions as intended automatically. I know that but LODs are designed around base systems, adding a faster SSD won't change the LOD coding and other stuff. Also going by Guerilla the main reason LODs were limited in Horizon was because the CPU simply couldnt stream stuff fast enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Just now, Team 2019 said: I know that but LODs are designed around base systems, adding a faster SSD won't change the LOD coding and other stuff. Also going by Guerilla the main reason LODs were limited in Horizon was because the CPU simply couldnt stream stuff fast enough. LoD and mipmap swaps and things of that nature are a render determinate, they're precalculated into the render pipeline. Yes an SSD or hybrid drive won't change this but it can reduce or eliminate stutter during large swaps. In Sea of Thieves for example when you're approaching an island and it does swaps if you're on a mechanical drive it can produce a slight half second or so lockup while it transitions, on an SSD this is eliminated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iBhf8rpobo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,667 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 There's no way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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