Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Cheaper than Pro with a game packed in. MS must be loving the hardware business. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) So if a Pro bundled with Knack 2 sold for 300 it's Knack's fault? Lol You can bet your ass MS didn't go into this expecting the X to require to match Pro's price, nevermind drop below it. Things like this is why hardware isn't MS's future strategy. Edited April 23, 2019 by Team 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: So if a Pro bundled with Knack 2 sold for 300 it's Knack's fault? Lol You can bet your ass MS didn't go into this expecting the X to require to match Pro's price, nevermind drop below it. Things like this is why hardware isn't MS's future strategy. Why are you guys being intentionally obtuse? It's simple economics. If you've got multiple hardware packages and all are priced the same and then one of those packages is not selling in line with the others you reduce the price so it will sell. Obviously Fallout 76 ended up being a horrible game and it's not something they can sell in line with bundles which include much better games so they're forced to reduce the price to eliminate it from circulation. I feel like I'm explaining things which are just common sense, bundles are not new, these kind of things happening are not foreign in this market or any other market. Stop being dumb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, DynamiteCop! said: Why are you guys being intentionally obtuse? It's simple economics. If you've got multiple hardware packages and all are priced the same and then one of those packages is not selling in line with the others you reduce the price so it will sell. Obviously Fallout 76 ended up being a horrible game and it's not something they can sell in line with bundles which include much better games so they're forced to reduce the price to eliminate it from circulation. I feel like I'm explaining things which are just common sense, bundles are not new, these kind of things happening are not foreign in this market or any other market. Stop being dumb. We aren't being obtuse, even a Gameless 385 dollar price for an X is a sign of disaster. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, Team 2019 said: We aren't being obtuse, even a Gameless 385 dollar price for an X is a sign of disaster. You are being obtuse, completely and the standard Xbox One X is discontinued just like the Fallout 76 bundle is. They're not produced anymore, this stuff has been superseded by new hardware packages and superior selling bundles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 7,728 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) how the hell is the ps4 pro still $399 (and the slim ps4 $299)? that's crazy. Edited April 23, 2019 by -GD- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, -GD- said: how the hell is the ps4 pro still $399 (and the slim ps4 $299)? that's crazy. MSRP's, but just like Microsoft's stuff if you look around you can find all of these things greatly discounted below that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce 2,727 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: We aren't being obtuse, even a Gameless 385 dollar price for an X is a sign of disaster. Why? The game bundles are currently $450. The gameless, discontinued model for $65 less is nothing to write home about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 7,728 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, DynamiteCop! said: MSRP's, but just like Microsoft's stuff if you look around you can find all of these things greatly discounted below that. i just checked amazon and that's the prices they have listed. i just think the pro should be $299 and the OG one should be $199. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, -GD- said: i just checked amazon and that's the prices they have listed. i just think the pro should be $299 and the OG one should be $199. $369.99 Took all of 5 seconds to find and they're a Sony authorized dealer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 7,728 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, DynamiteCop! said: $369.99 Took all of 5 seconds to find and they're a Sony authorized dealer. oh i get that. however, you rarely ever see it under $350. it's ridiculous. it's overpriced imo. the one x is going for just $15 more on amazon than the deal you listed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, -GD- said: oh i get that. however, you rarely ever see it under $350. it's ridiculous. it's overpriced imo. the one x is going for just $15 more on amazon than the deal you listed. It is overpriced and the whole excuse of "Well Sony doesn't need to lower the price" isn't cutting it anymore, they're seeing YoY declines greater than Microsoft is right now and even without the declines it's still too much money. It should have been $350 since last year. Edited April 23, 2019 by DynamiteCop! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spicalicious 128 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, jehurey said: No, if the game is thrown in for free, then the type of bundle does not matter. Its the hardware. And its not selling. That Fallout 76 bundle, no matter HOW MUCH you don't want to play that game, should have ALREADY BEEN selling at $450, or $425, or $400. It keeps on dropping in price, and it ain't because people are disgusting at that Fallout 76 logo on the box. idiotray Um, if there are competing bundles that are regular price then they are just trying to get rid of the bundles that people aren't interested in. MS has likely authorized a discount on those bundles due to poor reception. Stop being a moron. you're either really stupid of just a troll.. I'm guessing it's the latter. Please everyone, don't feed the troll or don't talk to the idiot. Either way.. Edited April 23, 2019 by Spicalicious Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 39 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: It is overpriced and the whole excuse of "Well Sony doesn't need to lower the price" isn't cutting it anymore, they're seeing YoY declines greater than Microsoft is right now and even without the declines it's still too much money. It should have been $350 since last year. You're trying to do math again? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Goukosan said: You're trying to do math again? What system had the largest decline last month? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Just now, DynamiteCop! said: What system had the largest decline last month? which system has the largest decline this YEAR overall? YTD 2019 (Jan - March) NSW: 1.03M (+20%) PS4: 730K (-25%) XB1: 550K (-35%) 35% decline for Xbox1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Goukosan said: which system has the largest decline this YEAR overall? YTD 2019 (Jan - March) NSW: 1.03M (+20%) PS4: 730K (-25%) XB1: 550K (-35%) 35% decline for Xbox1 What was the PS4's YoY decline in 2018? What was the Xbox One's? What was the PS4's decline during the holidays versus the previous year? You're trying to paint this in a vacuum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 54 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: It is overpriced and the whole excuse of "Well Sony doesn't need to lower the price" isn't cutting it anymore, they're seeing YoY declines greater than Microsoft is right now and even without the declines it's still too much money. It should have been $350 since last year. It doesn't work like that. These are two closed ecosystems, not two competing graphics cards. Performance is just a fraction of the equation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,222 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 51 minutes ago, Spicalicious said: idiotray Um, if there are competing bundles that are regular price then they are just trying to get rid of the bundles that people aren't interested in. MS has likely authorized a discount on those bundles due to poor reception. Stop being a moron. you're either really stupid of just a troll.. I'm guessing it's the latter. Please everyone, don't feed the troll or don't talk to the idiot. Either way.. That would imply that you know that the other bundles are selling well. Which you don't. Chances are, the majority of bundles out in the market are Fallout 76 bundles, which is why you are seeing that one on sale with that particular retailer. There is really no way around. None of this happens if people value the Xbox One X as being worth it by itself. You can't possibly be stupid enough to NOT accept a deal because it comes in packed with something you don't like. Did you honestly think that logic was going to work? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DynamiteCop! said: What was the PS4's YoY decline in 2018? What was the Xbox One's? What was the PS4's decline during the holidays versus the previous year? You're trying to paint this in a vacuum. PS4 was the best selling console Last year WW and I believe either 2nd best in the US or the best in the US (Switch and PS4 and neck). One constant was Xbox being last. Your dumbass got confused comparing Xbox1 "Growth" in 2018 with X an additional Sku... vs 2017 that did not have X...... But as soon as Nov 2018 came around... the first month in 2018 that you could compare with a 2017 month that had X..... Huge Declines for Xbox1 every single month since then. Edited April 23, 2019 by Goukosan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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