David Gibson: Nintendo and Microsoft's Azure is looking to team up to offer their own streaming service

[Playstation Tablet 1,725]

Looks like MS is going full partner mode with Nintendo.and Sony eventually.

 

 

[DynamiteCop 2,085]

Sony and Nintendo are both dead and they know it, the only chance they have is to back Microsoft and fall under the veil of their services.

[Playstation Tablet 1,725]

"Back" MS They are renting servers.

[Remij 4,670]

I said a long long looooong time ago that "Nintendo" and "Playstation" will eventually be apps which run on generic PC hardware.

 

It starts with streaming... then, as more people begin to just stream their games, 3rd parties will start doing their own thing and save development budget building a single version of their game able to reach every screen out there.. the reasons for dedicated console hardware begin to disappear.  It doesn't make any sense for these console manufacturers to spend money designing and building hardware and building up a hardware base... at the point where they will be losing money on every system sold.   So they follow suit.  They stop making dedicated hardware and build a single version that runs on PC hardware (home and server) and they can deploy that build to everyone.  People who stream will stream, and people who want local will play it on PC hardware.  That hardware will of course have many form factors... Desktops, Laptops, console-like small form factors, HTPCs, Tablets ect.  You can then pretty much reach every device out there either streaming or locally.

 

Creating a dedicated console will make less and less sense as time goes on and things have to scale up.  They aren't going to design "consoles" in the future so that they can use them as server blades... lmfao.  I can see that happening in the transition period to make use of hardware that was already designed and can be repurposed.  But once all these companies begin to unify around the same hardware (servers/PC) then they stop making consoles.  That's why MS has essentially bet everything on Streaming and cloud computing.  They lost a crucial generation, which essentially forced them to push for this inevitable future, but at a much quicker pace.  It just so happens that it falls in line with the goal and and the strength of the entire company and where MS' new leadership has been taking it.

 

MS has changed DRASTICALLY since Nadella took over.  They've open sourced shit that nobody ever thought they would, they've published previously denied spec documents for their technologies.. they're learning to work with the communities to better improve and integrate their products/technologies rather than trying to force people to move into their own proprietary bullshit.  The company has a clear vision now, and they're firing up all cylinders working towards the same goal.  With a company the size of MS...that's extremely important, and hard to do.  But they are doing it.

 

 

[DynamiteCop 2,085]

6 minutes ago, Team 2019 said:

"Back" MS They are renting servers.

That's exactly what they're doing and both will be pouring massive amounts of money into Microsoft's revenue stream while none is being returned. 

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MS has zero exclusives, makes games for Switch, hasn't made a hit game in 4 years, routinely sees a -30% drop in console sales, is making exclusives for PC and mobile instead of Xbox, and now they're renting out their streaming tech too. they won't even keep that exclusive.

 

but somehow, this means Sony and Nintendo are going the way of the dodo?  

 

MS IS GOING 3RD PARTY FFS. doesn't take a genius to figure that out. they haven't made a worthwhile game in fucking years lmfao

[Playstation Tablet 1,725]

3 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said:

That's exactly what they're doing and both will be pouring massive amounts of money into Microsoft's revenue stream while none is being returned. 

Yeah the Cloud division. Which has nothing to do with XBox hardware division.

[DynamiteCop 2,085]

13 minutes ago, Team 2019 said:

Yeah the Cloud division. Which has nothing to do with XBox hardware division.

Yeah keep thinking it's just that, Sony's side goes way beyond that and as far as Nintendo they have no infrastructure for it so they're going to lease technology from Microsoft which falls under the veiling of their gaming division I.E. Xbox. 

 

This also sends xCloud on Switch up in smoke so there goes that hypothetical future the sheep were hoping for. Microsoft isn't going anywhere, Xbox isn't going anywhere, their hardware isn't going anywhere, they're going to maintain autonomous separation while working together on ventures that make sense like Live on Switch for Crossplay, or technology swaps with Sony. 

 

The Microsoft "3rd party" pipe dream is not happening. 

 

Edited May 19, 2019 by DynamiteCop!

[Playstation Tablet 1,725]

The damage control is strong, all your XCloud infrastructure talk ended up being nothing when it's out for rent. The Cloud division makes money off Sony and Nintendo, while the XBox/XCloud division loses a competitive edge as a service.

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I can't wait to see how MS manages to market their next console if it even exists. will be lucky to break 10m consoles sold next gen at this rate. Everything is gone. 

[DynamiteCop 2,085]

17 minutes ago, Team 2019 said:

The damage control is strong, all your XCloud infrastructure talk ended up being nothing when it's out for rent. The Cloud division makes money off Sony and Nintendo, while the XBox/XCloud division loses a competitive edge as a service.

There's zero damage control, what's happening is all the dumb shit you idiots have been saying for the last 18 months is deteriorating into leasing partnerships and technology swaps, menial back scratching.

 

As far as xCloud is concerned we have no idea how that implementation is going to work. Maybe Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft are going all in together under a single umbrella with a single shared service. Maybe they're all going at it separately on Microsoft's network with their own flair and provisional services. We don't know yet but what's glaringly obvious at this point is that whole mess of Xbox rolling over and dying isn't happening, at this point with the above they're more autonomous than Sony and Nintendo as they will be the only one operating within the confines of their company. 

 

Microsoft = Fully autonomous

Sony = Reliant on Microsoft

Nintendo = Reliant on Microsoft

 

Edited May 19, 2019 by DynamiteCop!

[Goukosan 2,249]

3 hours ago, DynamiteCop! said:

Sony and Nintendo are both dead and they know it, the only chance they have is to back Microsoft and fall under the veil of their services.

 

[jehurey 3,228]

LOL, by Dynocrap's logic...............Sony and Nintendo lost to Microsoft a long time ago.

 

They have computers in their buildings running off of Windows OS and Windows Outlook for email.

 

Sony and Nintendo are now UNDER Microsoft!!!!!

[Goukosan 2,249]

Just now, jehurey said:

LOL, by Dynocrap's logic...............Sony and Nintendo lost to Microsoft a long time ago.

 

They have computers in their buildings running off of Windows OS and Windows Outlook for email.

 

Sony and Nintendo are now UNDER Microsoft!!!!!

Developers use PCs to make Nintendo and Sony games....... MS won!!!! 

 

 

[DynamiteCop 2,085]

Sheep trying to conflate Windows volume licensing with direct partnerships for cloud streaming integration and advancement. 

 

[jehurey 3,228]

Just now, DynamiteCop! said:

Sheep trying to conflate Windows volume licensing with direct partnerships for cloud streaming integration and advancement. 

 

you're trying to conflate SERVERS with Microsoft successfully winning in terms of being the gaming platform.

 

A data center houses OTHER people's hardware. 

 

I love that you are attempting this, because you're actually admitting that Microsoft has lost the traditional console war.

 

Thanks for that.

[DynamiteCop 2,085]

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

you're trying to conflate SERVERS with Microsoft successfully winning in terms of being the gaming platform.

 

A data center houses OTHER people's hardware. 

 

I love that you are attempting this, because you're actually admitting that Microsoft has lost the traditional console war.

 

Thanks for that.

Nintendo has nothing so they're going to have to lease tech from Microsoft directly, and as far as Sony is concerned they're not only migrating their network they're also doing technological dealings. 

 

Microsoft has an ace in the hole, they've got their competitors successfully in their wheelhouse and reliant on them. 

 

[jehurey 3,228]

4 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said:

Nintendo has nothing so they're going to have to lease tech from Microsoft directly, and as far as Sony is concerned they're not only migrating their network they're also doing technological dealings. 

 

Microsoft has an ace in the hole, they've got their competitors successfully in their wheelhouse and reliant on them. 

 

LOL lease tech..................notice that he doesn't want to say what tech.

 

He's trying to make it sound like Nintendo is borrowing Xbox designed hardware, or a Xbox game engine, or an Xbox IP.

 

No.............they're renting server space in a data center.

 

Microsoft does have an ace in the hole...............when all else fails, sell Sony and Nintendo new versions of MS Word and Excel. LOL

 

So, what's more believable............both Sony and Nintendo just so happened to have made CONCESSIONS to Microsoft AT THE SAME TIME?

 

Or Microsoft is the one who has made a decision to make concessions to stay alive by coming to Sony and Nintendo with a plea deal.

 

[Goukosan 2,249]

17 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said:

Nintendo has nothing so they're going to have to lease tech from Microsoft directly, and as far as Sony is concerned they're not only migrating their network they're also doing technological dealings. 

 

Microsoft has an ace in the hole, they've got their competitors successfully in their wheelhouse and reliant on them. 

 

you can't be this dumb... oh wait you are

 

[Goukosan 2,249]

25 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said:

Sheep trying to conflate Windows volume licensing with direct partnerships for cloud streaming integration and advancement. 

 

Nintendo using Azure is similar to using windows in their offices.   This has no effect on Xbox gaming division you clown 🤡