JonDnD 2,618 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 35 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: He was XBox's first part head since the OG XBox days. He didn't come from Mars. He's an old school XBox guard dude. For fucks sake he greenlit and managed Vodoo Vince. What's that have to do with what I was responding to ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,618 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: Plus the game pass model of 10 bucks makes it suicide to make 50+ million dollar single player games. Straight to Gamepass strategy. He knows that shit ain't selling any consoles. Why are EA and UbiSoft doing it ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, JONBpc said: Why are EA and UbiSoft doing it ? How many AAA single player games are there day 1? And which ones don't have DLC to purchase like say God of War or Detroit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,618 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Team 2019 said: How many AAA single player games are there day 1? And which ones don't have DLC to purchase like say God of War or Detroit? Uh , you're truly an idiot . If you are gonna trash something at least do your homework . Every EA game and every Ubi game is day one with their services . Now the argument is dlc ? Lmao . Wow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, JONBpc said: Uh , you're truly an idiot . If you are gonna trash something at least do your homework . Every EA game and every Ubi game is day one with their services . Now the argument is dlc ? Lmao . Wow. Of course DLC is an argument. The model for all Ubishit games is 25 bucks of DLC per game. Aside from the division 2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,618 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: Of course DLC is an argument. The model for all Ubishit games is 25 bucks of DLC per game. Aside from the division 2. You have an excuse for everything lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, JONBpc said: You have an excuse for everything lol You can't en mass make single player only games with no dlc day 1 for game pass. This is a simple reality. It's a sub, not a 60 dollar sale. Also I can't remember the last time EA even made a single player game. PSnow will have the Sony big games for its pass as well, but in like a year. The 60 dollar, 10 million sold is just how it works when you make AAA SP games. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,618 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: You can't en mass make single player only games with no dlc day 1 for game pass. This is a simple reality. It's a sub, not a 60 dollar sale. Also I can't remember the last time EA even made a single player game. PSnow will have the Sony big games for its pass as well, but in like a year. The 60 dollar, 10 million sold is just how it works when you make AAA SP games. Why don't you work in the business ? You clearly know everything. If you were in charge you could tell MS , EA and UBI that they are wrong . Lol . Idiot . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
102020393023445948594 2,223 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 they won't even show Gears 5 gameplay. Mark my words, it's a 3 hour feminist campaign and it will suck, that's why they're hiding it like a red-headed step-child. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 minute ago, JONBpc said: Why don't you work in the business ? You clearly know everything. If you were in charge you could tell MS , EA and UBI that they are wrong . Lol . Idiot . Name one AAA only SP game MS has launched on game pass since it went live. Day 1 release. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,618 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: Name one AAA only SP game MS has launched on game pass since it went live. Day 1 release. What does that have to do with anything ? Almost every ms game has an online component as well . The Outer Worlds is coming soon . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, JONBpc said: What does that have to do with anything ? Almost every ms game has an online component as well . The Outer Worlds is coming soon . Outer World's is made by 80 people btw. It's not an AAA budget game. On the positive side the studio is 200 people and it looks like MS might be buying the Alpha Protocol IP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: Outer World's is made by 80 people btw. It's not an AAA budget game. On the positive side the studio is 200 people and it looks like MS might be buying the Alpha Protocol IP. What does the team size have to do with budget? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,618 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Can you stay on one thing at a time assa? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: What does the team size have to do with budget? Like almost everything? Obsidian said it will be a smaller game and shorter than say New Vegas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just now, Team 2019 said: Like almost everything? Obsidian said it will be a smaller game and shorter than say New Vegas. Where did they say this? Also what does length have to do with budget? The Order was 5 hours long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/18/the-outer-worlds-preview-and-interview-we-wanted-to-be-a-fun-game-9992372/ ‘We never really had much choice!’ says Boyarsky, when we ask him whether he got frustrated having to working with a relatively small budget. ‘Even when we were pitching this three years ago, when we first started working on it, Private Division [2K’s new indie label] were interested but we didn’t have a lot of other people that were. So we had to pitch this as a smaller game. It’s less risk, but it also means we get more freedom in what we do.’ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) Outer World's looks amazing and I expect it to be MS's best game and future development team. But it's a low budget game nowhere near AAA. If it sells I can see it getting a bigger budget for the sequel but I doubt it will be AAA. Plus you going with MS's strategy the sequel will probably be cross gen, and they most likely won't skip out on PlayStation either. AAA games are usually more generic, safe and boring. So I'd rather Obsidian do their own games rather than go bland with an AAA budget. But there are diamonds there like Zelda or God of War. MS could use something like those two, and it's harder to make them without a 60 dollar pricetag. The one AAA SP game we are supposedly getting is Fable for now. Edited June 20, 2019 by Team 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 Also back onto MS supporting cross gen for a long time. Imagine they start making Scarlett exclusives, imagine how badly that would hurt their Gamepass model. Gamepass in their eyes is more importantly than hardware, and Phil says if you're in the ecosystem be it on a launch XBox or PC he has no desire to sell you a new piece of hardware. Services > hardware. There are multiple other reasons as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 17 hours ago, DynamiteCop! said: What does the team size have to do with budget? Except they have gone on record as saying it is a small budget game. And game journalist have clearly described the game as looking fairly cheap in its production values, they reiterated that again on this week's bombcast. This isn't like the small Team ico making Last Guardian for 10 years. Outer World is a relatively low budget game, and as an RPG, the 20-25 hours of gameplay is really light. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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