Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) Edited June 21, 2019 by Team 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teh_Diplomat 2,054 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Most Impressive Ray Tracing game? Isn't that like coming 3rd in a two person race... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 Honestly screen space reflections are more than fine, RT shiny shit is cool, but the performance cost is surreal. Who cares if RT can reflect things that AREN'T on screen while SSR can only reflect whats on screen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,607 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Team 2019 said: Honestly screen space reflections are more than fine, RT shiny shit is cool, but the performance cost is surreal. Who cares if RT can reflect things that AREN'T on screen while SSR can only reflect whats on screen. Only time I've ever agreed with you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teh_Diplomat 2,054 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, JONBpc said: Only time I've ever agreed with you Only took 12 years too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,607 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Thhbr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 7,729 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 it's cool, but it's not worth the performance cost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
102020393023445948594 2,223 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 watch this game be a banger after MS cut them. The Phil Spencer eye for quality Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Team 2019 said: Honestly screen space reflections are more than fine, RT shiny shit is cool, but the performance cost is surreal. Who cares if RT can reflect things that AREN'T on screen while SSR can only reflect whats on screen. They really aren't fine. They can be extremely distracting and ugly imo. Again... once RT games become more common, the more you guys will see how wrong a lot of shit looks in comparison. I've said it before and I'll say it again... it'll all seem like "not much difference" "barely noticeable" "just a little darker"... and then one day it will be.. Jesus.. how the fuck did we ever think that looked good before? Guaranteed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 7,729 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Remij_ said: They really aren't fine. They can be extremely distracting and ugly imo. Again... once RT games become more common, the more you guys will see how wrong a lot of shit looks in comparison. I've said it before and I'll say it again... it'll all seem like "not much difference" "barely noticeable" "just a little darker"... and then one day it will be.. Jesus.. how the fuck did we ever think that looked good before? Guaranteed. well, that's the case with a lot of tech. soft shadows and tessellation didn't seem to add a lot, at first. now, there's no turning back. right now, we are conditioned for more primitive graphics techniques. however, that will change. plus, it won't be such a resource hog (remember how soft shadows dropped f.e.a.r's performance by half?) it's just too new to be widely appreciated right now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teh_Diplomat 2,054 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, -GD- said: well, that's the case with a lot of tech. soft shadows and tessellation didn't seem to add a lot, at first. now, there's no turning back. right now, we are conditioned for more primitive graphics techniques. however, that will change. plus, it won't be such a resource hog (remember how soft shadows dropped f.e.a.r's performance by half?) it's just too new to be widely appreciated right now. FEAR's soft shadows, or how I loved to learn about GPU stats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,723 Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Remij_ said: They really aren't fine. They can be extremely distracting and ugly imo. Again... once RT games become more common, the more you guys will see how wrong a lot of shit looks in comparison. I've said it before and I'll say it again... it'll all seem like "not much difference" "barely noticeable" "just a little darker"... and then one day it will be.. Jesus.. how the fuck did we ever think that looked good before? Guaranteed. It ain't that. You could be running this game at like 144hz instead and above 1080p. The tech is great. The issue is performance. Edited June 21, 2019 by Team 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Ray Tracing is the new bump mapping, and it's being exaggerated to the same degree it was when it was new. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 7,729 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Teh_Diplomat said: FEAR's soft shadows, or how I loved to learn about GPU stats. i didn't even notice them, and my 6800gt was getting like 15 fps with them on lol Edited June 21, 2019 by -GD- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teh_Diplomat 2,054 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, -GD- said: i didn't even notice them, ands my 6800gt was getting like 15 fps with them on lol Yeah, I bought a GPU, and before I opened it, I went to Tom'sHardware to look up the performance for FEAR, and then promptly returned it for a better model. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,607 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Hdr > RT 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, JONBpc said: Hdr > RT Such a stupid post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,607 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Remij_ said: Such a stupid post. It's TRUE. Support started off so much better . It's almost standard now (lol pc) visual difference is immediately noticable and its FREE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, JONBpc said: It's TRUE. Support started off so much better . It's almost standard now (lol pc) visual difference is immediately noticable and its FREE They aren't in competition with each other bubut support started off better? LMAO What fucking difference does that make? If a game has it, fine.. if it doesn't... fine. ROFL. And I'd take proper RT global illumination, shadows, reflections and AO every day before I'd take HDR support. The irony being that your dumb ass doesn't even realize that half the HDR enabled games out there are completely faking it and aren't even really that dynamic in range. "Look!! Nier Automata looks so incredible on X!! Best on X! HDR makes it look so much better!! YAY!" Game is tested and it's basically SDR The clownery around here never ceases to amaze me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,607 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Lmao someone still mad the PC port of Nier was trash Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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