102020393023445948594 2,223 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Spicalicious said: you're just wrong though. Honestly though. I think they'll make a comeback next gen. there's no coming back with their repuatation and how damaged the brand is. none. If they come into next gen with this no exclusives bullshit again? LMAO just LMAO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, bhytre said: They absolutely deserve to fail for the treasonous route they've taken, it's not even really Xbox anymore so who cares at this point? At least they had the decency to push their fans away and not turn them into cucked handheld gamers though Agreed. Turning their back on PC gaming like that all those years ago. Xbox was an abomination. They deserve this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bhytre 2,753 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Remij_ said: Agreed. Turning their back on PC gaming like that all those years ago. Xbox was an abomination. They deserve this. PosC gaming literally didn't mean anything before Xbox LMAO. What did MS even have for it, some old flight sims? LOL Xbox literally fed the hermsmells, but a little too much as the years went by Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, bhytre said: PosC gaming literally didn't mean anything before Xbox LMAO. What did MS even have for it, some old flight sims? LOL Xbox literally fed the hermsmells, but a little too much as the years went by Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,026 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, jehurey said: Netflix just reported that their subscriber base shrinked for the first time ever, losing 130,000 subscribers in the US. They had originally predicted to grow by 5 million subscribers worldwide, but they only grew by 2.7 million. Their downturn is coming. Microsoft is picking a very bad time to get into the online streaming business. Too many streaming services. This shit is gonna crash. Netflix is popular because it was the first and had everything on it, now all these studios are making their own service and it's really starting to piss me off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,613 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Ms shouldn't have even wasted money on a new console . They killed themselves . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,555 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Sheesh, not the way you want to be going into the next generation. As I said previously, they may be making a lot of consumer friendly moves with GP and Play Anywhere and so on but it is having ZERO positive effect in the market. Halo Infinite will give them some buzz back and then they really better hold on to it and capitilise on that momentum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spicalicious 128 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 hours ago, madmaltese said: Sheesh, not the way you want to be going into the next generation. As I said previously, they may be making a lot of consumer friendly moves with GP and Play Anywhere and so on but it is having ZERO positive effect in the market. Halo Infinite will give them some buzz back and then they really better hold on to it and capitilise on that momentum they will.. there will be plenty of other opportunities though. I hope you all remember how none of you believed me in a few years from now. The game is gonna chance and MS is in the drivers seat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
102020393023445948594 2,223 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 hours ago, madmaltese said: Sheesh, not the way you want to be going into the next generation. As I said previously, they may be making a lot of consumer friendly moves with GP and Play Anywhere and so on but it is having ZERO positive effect in the market. Halo Infinite will give them some buzz back and then they really better hold on to it and capitilise on that momentum Sony will align black ops 5 against halo infinite. it's game over. ps5 will have the premier fps. halo is dead after 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaz 2,439 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 can someone explain to me what it is that keeps them from making games? spicoli always comes with the money argument and I mean he's not wrong. just make some IPs, make them console exclusive, release the new console with it and bam back in the business. I have no idea how microshit can fuck up so bad i mean shit, they can even failsafe copy sony in that regard just make interesting games for adult audience. I'd buy an xbox if they had a game I really want to play. sony vs nintendo will be boring as hell because they aren't even comparable Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voidler 1,675 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 4 hours ago, kaz said: can someone explain to me what it is that keeps them from making games? spicoli always comes with the money argument and I mean he's not wrong. just make some IPs, make them console exclusive, release the new console with it and bam back in the business. I have no idea how microshit can fuck up so bad i mean shit, they can even failsafe copy sony in that regard just make interesting games for adult audience. I'd buy an xbox if they had a game I really want to play. sony vs nintendo will be boring as hell because they aren't even comparable MS is creatively bankrupt. They make their money on work applications, not entertainment. They’ve never had any clue how to make games, besides flukeing into partnerships with Bungie and Epic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) MS messed the One up and was supposed to build momentum going into next gen at the very least. Where does this delusion come from that Scarlett will be some sort of reset where MS won't be paying for their abysmal 2016-2020 line up? Nevermind selling the concept of XBox exclusives down the drain. There just aren't enough "console only dudes" that will view these games as XBox exclusives as they come to PC, and the smaller games going to Switch like Cuphead and Ori is a slap in the face. The 360 had momentum but even then it started losing it with their shit line up in the final years that helped PS4 a lot because people had faith in Sony first party. The Scarlett isn't going to salvage shit. Edited July 19, 2019 by Team 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Also an almost 50 percent decline isn't just bad, it's abysmal. Imagine if PS4 went from selling 7-18 million to 8-9 million the next year. Or Switch selling sub 10 million. There is a chance One won't top 50 million sold now by the time Scarlett comes out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,250 Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: Also an almost 50 percent decline isn't just bad, it's abysmal. Imagine if PS4 went from selling 7-18 million to 8-9 million the next year. Or Switch selling sub 10 million. There is a chance One won't top 50 million sold now by the time Scarlett comes out. PS4 is in a decline too. The difference is PS4 sold great all gen... so it's decline is still pushing out decent hardware sales. Xbox1 on the other hand has sold mediocre the entire gen.... so that 48% decline puts it waaaaay down the toilet 🚽 with shit hardware sales. As I told @DynamiteCop!Switch will surpass Xbox1 this fiscal year. Switch is seeing double digit growth while Xbox fell off a cliff and is seeing double digit declines Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ike★ 2,906 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/18/tech/microsoft-fourth-quarter-earnings-2019/index.html Looks like the gaming division is the only sector of MS that's not profiting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Goukosan said: PS4 is in a decline too. The difference is PS4 sold great all gen... so it's decline is still pushing out decent hardware sales. Xbox1 on the other hand has sold mediocre the entire gen.... so that 48% decline puts it waaaaay down the toilet 🚽 with shit hardware sales. As I told @DynamiteCop!Switch will surpass Xbox1 this fiscal year. Switch is seeing double digit growth while Xbox fell off a cliff and is seeing double digit declines I'm officially calling it right now. Switch hardware has surpassed Xbox One hardware sales, worldwide. The official sales ranking is: 1. PS4 2. Switch 3. Xbox One confirmed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,054 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 18 hours ago, Spicalicious said: you're just wrong though. Honestly though. I think they'll make a comeback next gen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,054 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 14 hours ago, Spicalicious said: they will.. there will be plenty of other opportunities though. I hope you all remember how none of you believed me in a few years from now. The game is gonna chance and MS is in the drivers seat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaz 2,439 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 9 hours ago, Voidler said: MS is creatively bankrupt. They make their money on work applications, not entertainment. They’ve never had any clue how to make games, besides flukeing into partnerships with Bungie and Epic well okay but how hard can it be to make "sony-like" single player games? I mean not copy them 100% but take notice of how they make their games. I still don't get it. There has to be some people at MS with the right ideas to turn it around, not like that Phil idiot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, kaz said: well okay but how hard can it be to make "sony-like" single player games? I mean not copy them 100% but take notice of how they make their games. I still don't get it. There has to be some people at MS with the right ideas to turn it around, not like that Phil idiot The biggest red flags are them buying cheap studios. Platinum Games are usually not known for being expensive to develop, since they're not even that big of a studio, and MS cancelled the game because they went over-budget. They had online issues with Halo MCC and they couldn't fix the damn game for over 3 years. Look at Crackdown. These all appear to be signs of a division who has had its budget tightened within the past 3-4 years. My guess is that Phil Spencer was given a choice, put resources in games or put resources in hardware/services, and they figured that if they put out a console and some services, that will be enough to get gamers to buy third-party multiplats. And Sony absolutely murdered them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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