DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Obviously it cleans up a non-native render and makes it sharper in appearance but it also seems to add kind of a solid ambient occlusion to a scene in some instances. I don't know if this is unintended but it looks considerably better and there's way more depth, shadowing and the like in the first scene. This is scaled for a 1440p display with a 1080p render, the bottom on screen appears basically native in clarity and even in the image you can see a pretty drastic increase in it. This could have a lot of implications for next-gen consoles, I doubt they developed this just for their PC market. This coupled with some other rendering sorcery could really produce some insane visual fidelity at a low cost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
James Skywalker 528 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Fabian like Radeon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lostfool 680 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Yeah but is it worth the overhead on the GPU? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, lostfool said: Yeah but is it worth the overhead on the GPU? There is no overhead, absolutely zero performance cost. It's great because I have a 1440p monitor but not everything performs exactly as I would like. With this I can push it down to 1080p and basically be none the wiser, clarity wise it looks the same as native if not better. Edited October 2, 2019 by DynamiteCop! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
James Skywalker 528 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, lostfool said: Yeah but is it worth the overhead on the GPU? No, but it’s worth underhead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 @lostfool Here's an even better example, not the same angle and the ToD is a bit off but you get the idea. I mean it's night and day, these are both 1080p. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lostfool 680 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: There is no overhead, absolutely zero performance cost. It's great because I have a 1440p monitor but not everything performs exactly as I would like. With this I can push it down to 1080p and basically be none the wiser, clarity wise it looks the same as native if not better. Oh ok then it is definitely worth it to have an image that looks as good as 1440p but without the strain. I really hope this is implemented in next gen consoles so devs can really focus on performance. I like games to look nice but not at the cost of framerates being all over the place or weird artifacts on visuals that are distracting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lostfool 680 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: @lostfool Here's an even better example, not the same angle and the ToD is a bit off but you get the idea. I mean it's night and day, these are both 1080p. Very noticeable on this image as well as the first image you posted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
James Skywalker 528 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 I notice a bull. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, lostfool said: Very noticeable on this image as well as the first image you posted. Yeah this could be a big deal for these new systems, in that same location at 1440p I'm getting like 75 FPS. So I mean that's a pretty drastic uptick in performance for an image that ends up looking essentially native. I think the best part about it though is it doesn't look like a typical blanket sharpening filter, it's doing some more intelligent form of sharpening that I can't discern. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lostfool 680 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, DynamiteCop! said: Yeah this could be a big deal for these new systems, in that same location at 1440p I'm getting like 75 FPS. So I mean that's a pretty drastic uptick in performance for an image that ends up looking essentially native. I think the best part about it though is it doesn't look like a typical blanket sharpening filter, it's doing some more intelligent form of sharpening that I can't discern. However it is doing it, it looks really damn good. I am excited with what devs can do with this tool 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 It doesn't add any AO... and we know exactly how it works... It's a basic CA sharpening filter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Remij_ said: It doesn't add any AO... and we know exactly how it works... It's a basic CA sharpening filter. Whatever the hell it's doing is giving this image the appearance of added AO that was not there previous. Also regardless of what it is or is not it's modulating the amount of sharpening based upon contrast which produces the ideal look of a higher resolution even though it's not actually rendering one, it's not just a filter, it's algorithmic. DLSS is fucking garbage compared to this even if they're not trying to do the same thing. Edited October 2, 2019 by DynamiteCop! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Yea no... I don't know if these are your shots or not.. but RIS is NOT doing this.... flip between them... One image CLEARLY has different settings than the other.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 Just now, Remij_ said: Yea no... I don't know if these are your shots or not.. but RIS is NOT doing this.... flip between them... One image CLEARLY has different settings than the other.... They are my images and I took them back to back, both 1080p, one with RIS on and one without it on both at maximum settings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: They are my images and I took them back to back, both 1080p, one with RIS on and one without it on both at maximum settings. Then your shit is broken. The first image CLEARLY has no AO... Changing the setting on and off in your driver is probably fucking with your image quality settings. When you're turning it off, it's probably turning off AO in the driver, even though the game setting might say it's 'on'... And I'm curious as to why you made all these comparisons as single pics, instead of separate which make them easier to compare? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Remij_ said: Then your shit is broken. The first image CLEARLY has no AO... Changing the setting on and off in your driver is probably fucking with your image quality settings. When you're turning it off, it's probably turning off AO in the driver, even though the game setting might say it's 'on'... And I'm curious as to why you made all these comparisons as single pics, instead of separate which make them easier to compare? Why would it turn AO off in the driver? This is a post process, it's completely unrelated. Also because why not? Your mouse has a scroll wheel right? It's condensing uploads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 1 minute ago, DynamiteCop! said: Why would it turn AO off in the driver? This is a post process, it's completely unrelated. Also because why not? Your mouse has a scroll wheel right? It's condensing uploads. I dunno, but something is clearly fucked.. because your AO in the first picture is not working. And I already stated why.. it makes them easier to compare... flipping back and forth between tabs. Lmao condensing uploads.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Remij_ said: I dunno, but something is clearly fucked.. because your AO in the first picture is not working. And I already stated why.. it makes them easier to compare... flipping back and forth between tabs. Lmao condensing uploads.. You're right, something was fucked up. Corrected, and I have separated them for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 @DynamiteCop! I mean, just looking at them, it was obvious something was either fucked up, or it was accidentally switched off or something and you didn't notice. Because if RIS was doing that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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