TLHBO 2,160 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) I need a new one. Are AMD and Nvidia still better for gaming performance? Is the difference between the i7 and i9 the same as the i5 and i7 used to be? I.e you only need the cheaper option? How much ram and vram do the most demanding games use? Edited October 3, 2019 by TLHBO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,608 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Future proof ? Get the best gpu and best cpu available, or wait to next gen . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TLHBO 2,160 Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 Just now, JONBpc said: Future proof ? Get the best gpu and best cpu available, or wait to next gen . Well future proof aside from GPU. everything else normally lasts years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,608 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, TLHBO said: Well future proof aside from GPU. everything else normally lasts years For this gen games I wouldnt get anything less than a 2070 or whatever equivalent and has . If you want to not upgrade cpu next gen I'd get ths best cpu available now . 16bg ram is fine for now , vram at 1080p I haven't had any game top out my 2060s 6gb Or ask remij Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinblade★ 3,892 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I wanted to build a new PC too but everyone here told me just to wait until the next gen consoles so I guess thats what im doing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce 2,727 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) The Ryzen 5 3000 series chips are amazing, the AM4 socket has some great, cheap boards, and RAM is cheap. Video cards are just kind of in a shitty spot. Edited October 3, 2019 by Hot Sauce Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,227 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I'd definitely make an effort to wait until Spring 2020, if you can. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TLHBO 2,160 Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, jehurey said: I'd definitely make an effort to wait until Spring 2020, if you can. My PC died today. Not sure if its the HDD or Windows being windows Either way its fucked and I’ve been wanting to upgrade for a while. Surprised how long my i5 carried me. Just dont know what I need in regards to motherboard and things. No cases these days seem to support dvd drives Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teh_Diplomat 2,054 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 One that's purchased in Q2 of 2020 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Well here's the biggest question before we can even start, what's your financial, performance and resolution target? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 7,729 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: Well here's the biggest question before we can even start, what's your financial, performance and resolution target? sounds about right. if one is fine with 1080p, i would imagine a solid cpu/16g of ram, and 2060 are fine for a few years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TLHBO 2,160 Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: Well here's the biggest question before we can even start, what's your financial, performance and resolution target? Up in the air. Is the i7 9700 worth buying? Looks top notch in benchmarks, but not as inflated as the 9900 Is 2400mhz DDR4 good? Or is 3000 and higher needed? Do all i7 motherboards support the higher speeds? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,608 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 I have an 8700 and no game has even came close to pressuring it . I doubt your ram speed will make much difference if you are targeting 60fps . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mother Fucker 26 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 2 hours ago, TLHBO said: I need a new one. Are AMD and Nvidia still better for gaming performance? Is the difference between the i7 and i9 the same as the i5 and i7 used to be? I.e you only need the cheaper option? How much ram and vram do the most demanding games use? AMD is better gaming for both CPU and GPU if you are shopping on a budget. $200 can get you the best 6 core 12 thread CPU on the market the Ryzen 5 3600 CPU that includes a Wraith Stealth cooler. Accompany that with a X570 Gaming Plus motherboard for $170 that supports PCI Gen 4 you will have a board that is going to be compatible for sometime. If you got cash to throw away, Nvidia will definitely take your money with their current GeForce cards RTX 2080 Super ($700) and RTX 2080 Ti ($1200), those GPUs are in worlds of their own as there are not AMD GPUs available that match it yet. Budget wise, on AMD side you can invest in a reference RX 5700XT Anniversary card that goes for $449, that will get you GTX 1080 TI performance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 41 minutes ago, TLHBO said: Up in the air. Is the i7 9700 worth buying? Looks top notch in benchmarks, but not as inflated as the 9900 Is 2400mhz DDR4 good? Or is 3000 and higher needed? Do all i7 motherboards support the higher speeds? It's really hard to give a straight answer without a resolution target. I wouldn't recommend the same things for a 1080p, 1440p or 4K target. I would look into AMD for CPU honestly, Intel is having more issues with security which in turn to fix them is causing performance losses over time not to mention you're paying considerably more for less. 2400 is slow for DDR4, that's fast for DDR3. I would try to go for 3000+ but it all depends on the board, you just have to make sure it has the support. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spicalicious 128 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, TLHBO said: My PC died today. Not sure if its the HDD or Windows being windows Either way its fucked and I’ve been wanting to upgrade for a while. Surprised how long my i5 carried me. Just dont know what I need in regards to motherboard and things. No cases these days seem to support dvd drives As a Hermit you should be able to rip apart the pc and troublehshoot the thing. Are you getting anything on screen at all.. Any errors? If you're not sure then you should just get X. Edited October 3, 2019 by Spicalicious Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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TLHBO 2,160 Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, The Mother Fucker said: AMD is better gaming for both CPU and GPU if you are shopping on a budget. $200 can get you the best 6 core 12 thread CPU on the market the Ryzen 5 3600 CPU that includes a Wraith Stealth cooler. Accompany that with a X570 Gaming Plus motherboard for $170 that supports PCI Gen 4 you will have a board that is going to be compatible for sometime. If you got cash to throw away, Nvidia will definitely take your money with their current GeForce cards RTX 2080 Super ($700) and RTX 2080 Ti ($1200), those GPUs are in worlds of their own as there are not AMD GPUs available that match it yet. Budget wise, on AMD side you can invest in a reference RX 5700XT Anniversary card that goes for $449, that will get you GTX 1080 TI performance. Its all science fiction talk to me. Intel has more cores but amd has more threads? whats the difference? intel had higher framerates in benchmarks, though amd was using less of the cpu do the threads matter? I just figure it sounds like intel squeezes out a fee more fps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TLHBO 2,160 Posted October 3, 2019 Author Share Posted October 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: It's really hard to give a straight answer without a resolution target. I wouldn't recommend the same things for a 1080p, 1440p or 4K target. I would look into AMD for CPU honestly, Intel is having more issues with security which in turn to fix them is causing performance losses over time not to mention you're paying considerably more for less. 2400 is slow for DDR4, that's fast for DDR3. I would try to go for 3000+ but it all depends on the board, you just have to make sure it has the support. Well i was wanting to go 1440p or 4k when I upgrade. since its been rushed though, I’ll say 1080p with the option to go 1440p 60fps max settings next year 3000+ sounds good. 2400 seems to be the minimum so might as well go higher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mother Fucker 26 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, TLHBO said: Its all science fiction talk to me. Intel has more cores but amd has more threads? whats the difference? intel had higher framerates in benchmarks, though amd was using less of the cpu do the threads matter? I just figure it sounds like intel squeezes out a fee more fps. AMD CPUs have more cores/threads the Intels have better IPCs. So take a 8 core i7-9700K ($408) vs 8 core / 16 thread Ryzen 7 3700X ($329) , the i7-9700K is going to provide slighter better fps numbers in certain games but over-all the Ryzen 7 with 16 processing threads will be able to do a lot multiple tasks at the same time, and still be beneficial for games that are multi-core CPU heavy. Same with the 6 core i5-9600K ($240) vs Ryzen 5 3600 ($200) 6 core / 12 threads , there will be a light higher IPC in certain games but overall the Ryzen 5 12 threads will be the all around better purchase. Edited October 3, 2019 by The Mother Fucker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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