Remij 4,670 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Does a pretty good job of explaining the basics of what a BVH is and how it works at a really high level. You can download their benchmark test and try it out. https://wotencore.net/en/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 So what's the performance cost? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: So what's the performance cost? I dunno. The benchmark just gives you a score and doesn't give you framerate details. Maybe I'll run it in a bit and see more or less how much it drops. Edited October 15, 2019 by Remij_ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 7,729 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 i look forward to raytracing becoming the norm. i'm sure devs will find clever, efficient ways to use it. remember when soft shadows were introduced in f.e.a.r.? that shit would cut your framerate in half. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) RTX what? Edited October 15, 2019 by DynamiteCop! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, -GD- said: i look forward to raytracing becoming the norm. i'm sure devs will find clever, efficient ways to use it. remember when soft shadows were introduced in f.e.a.r.? that shit would cut your framerate in half. ^exactly Devs will be smart about it. It's not going to completely change the image at first... it's going to be the subtle things. Shadows might look "similar" but what they will be is consistent.. and not show all the scaling artifacts and alignment issues that traditional shadow maps will have. You know.. the jagged stair-stepping edges that crawl.. and with RT shadows, you can show shadows for finer detail geometries... which traditional methods would likely miss because shadow map scaling. What it's going to do is help everything sit and feel more grounded in the scene. The more powerful hardware gets, and the more they can do this stuff the more cohesive and believable looking things will become. After a while... people will look at the old methods and see nothing but terrible artifacts and loss of detail. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, DynamiteCop! said: RTX what? This is a very limited in scope demo Relax bud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Remij_ said: This is a very limited in scope demo Relax bud. @lynux3@JONBpc RTX was a mistake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,052 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: @lynux3@JONBpc RTX was a mistake I concur. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,052 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Cool video though. Nice breakdown on their accomplishments regarding ray tracing. Edited October 15, 2019 by lynux3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 22 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: @lynux3@JONBpc RTX was a mistake Very VERY limited in scope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,608 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Rtx flopped lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 22 minutes ago, lynux3 said: I concur. The hilarious thing about that graph is that AMD's APUs are included. Nvidia is destroying them in the dGPU market. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Remij_ said: Very VERY limited in scope. I scored 1/3 of what you did with a GPU at 1/4 the price that doesn't have any hardware to accelerate the RT. Edited October 15, 2019 by DynamiteCop! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,052 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Remij_ said: The hilarious thing about that graph is that AMD's APUs are included. Nvidia is destroying them in the dGPU market. So what you're telling me is that AMD is still outselling NVIDIA? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, lynux3 said: So what you're telling me is that AMD is still outselling NVIDIA? Not to PC gamers they aren't. People who GAME on PC... overwhelmingly choose Nvidia. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,052 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, Remij_ said: Not to PC gamers they aren't. People who GAME on PC... overwhelmingly choose Nvidia. SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THAT AMD'S GPU SHIPMENTS ARE HIGHER THAN NVIDIA'S GPU SHIPMENTS? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, DynamiteCop! said: I scored nearly 1/3 of what you did with a GPU at 1/4 the price that doesn't have any hardware to accelerate the RT. Vega's are going for $350-450. You can get a 2080ti for $1100. So your cards worth a 3rd that mine is... and you get a 3rd of the performance.... and neither are using any hardware to accelerate RT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Remij_ said: Vega's are going for $350-450. You can get a 2080ti for $1100. So your cards worth a 3rd that mine is... and you get a 3rd of the performance.... and neither are using any hardware to accelerate RT. Is that a fact? Disable the RT and run the benchmark again and let's see how much the ratio diverges. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 Just now, lynux3 said: SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THAT AMD'S GPU SHIPMENTS ARE HIGHER THAN NVIDIA'S GPU SHIPMENTS? Yes... probably sitting unused in warehouses because people are buying Intel CPUs and Nvidia GPUs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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