TLHBO 2,162 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 His customers are asking for games but they aren’t getting those either 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. House 3,371 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 PSVR2 will benefit from all the PC VR games in the work right now. Games that simply can't be done on PS4 hardware. Really looking forward to it. Plus ports of current gen games will be feasible, let's say Borderlands 3 or The Outer Worlds in VR... The future is promising as fuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casual 726 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 He's right. VR will remain niche for the next gen. The big AAA blockbusters will remain focused on the non-VR experience. The biggest games you'll see in VR are spinoffs from second rate devs like HL:A. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, Casual said: He's right. VR will remain niche for the next gen. The big AAA blockbusters will remain focused on the non-VR experience. The biggest games you'll see in VR are spinoffs from second rate devs like HL:A. PSVR is at 5 million sold, that's 10% of the One's userbase, and the thing costs more than an S. It's a huge success. It's just MS's console hardware sales are on the ropes and it would be insanity to even try to release a VR headset for the thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casual 726 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Team 2019 said: PSVR is at 5 million sold, that's 10% of the One's userbase, and the thing costs more than an S. It's a huge success. It's just MS's console hardware sales are on the ropes and it would be insanity to even try to release a VR headset for the thing. Sure it's a huge success because the expectations were low. If you'e a triple A developer trying to recoup a huge budget game are you gonna want to sell it to a 5 million base or a 120 million base? VR won't be prioritized until it's included in every console sold. Until then it's glorified minigames and the odd bite sized full experience/spinoff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Casual said: Sure it's a huge success because the expectations were low. If you'e a triple A developer trying to recoup a huge budget game are you gonna want to sell it to a 5 million base or a 120 million base? VR won't be prioritized until it's included in every console sold. Until then it's glorified minigames and the odd bite sized full experience/spinoff. How is 5 million for a $200-$300 addon "Low expectations". It's not supposed to be prioritised over anything, it's just another platform for games that will obviously support big AAA games. See Fallout 4, Skyrim and RE5 VR support, with PS5 hardware that will be even more common practice. Edited November 26, 2019 by Team 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,250 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 12 hours ago, Team 2019 said: 13 hours ago, JONBpc said: I mean, he is right Nobody is asking for VR 11 hours ago, DynamiteCop! said: PSVR is a piece of shit, I'm buying an Index and never looking back. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casual 726 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: How is 5 million for a $200-$300 addon "Low expectations". It's not supposed to be prioritised over anything, it's just another platform for games that will obviously support big AAA games. See Fallout 4, Skyrim and RE5 VR support, with PS5 hardware that will be even more common practice. I said it exceeded low expectations. It''s a respectable number nothing more. Certainly nowhere near enough for it to be prioritized which is what needs to happen for it to become worthwhile. And I didn't realize those were the type of games we were talking about. I thought we were talking about actual full experiences tailored towards taking full advantage of VR. Not half assed VR shoehorned into a dumbed down version of a non-VR game. At least you're not delusional with your expectations then. Edited November 26, 2019 by Casual Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Casual said: I said it exceeded low expectations. It''s a respectable number nothing more. Certainly nowhere near enough for it to be prioritized which is what needs to happen for it to become worthwhile. And I didn't realize those were the type of games we were talking about. I thought we were talking about actual full experiences tailored towards taking full advantage of VR. Not half assed VR shoehorned into a dumbed down version of a non-VR game. At least you're not delusional with your expectations then. Well no one is expecting an exclusive VR Cyberpunk game or Naughty Dog to make a VR exclusive game. No one is that delusional. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Casual 726 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Just now, Team 2019 said: Well no one is expecting an exclusive VR Cyberpunk game or Naughty Dog to make a VR exclusive game. No one is that delusional. Cool, so you agree that VR will remain a gimmicky side project for the forseeable future? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Casual said: Cool, so you agree that VR will remain a gimmicky side project for the forseeable future? What is a "gimmick" by your definition, it's supposed to have 50+ million dollar budgets for games? Obviously that's not going to happen, but you're going to get awesome shit like Beat Saber, Astrobot, Persistence etc as exclusives. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 PSVR is enough of a success. The thing is that Sony may actually have a decent path here. I'm not 100% sure, but I imagine that they are allowing PSVR 1st-gen headsets to work with PS5 because the PS5 will able to churn out higher framerate and probably be able to have some real Anti-Aliasing, so if you're PSVR owner and you trade-in your PS4 for a PS5, suddenly your VR games will look significantly better. This buys Sony enough time until 2021-2022, they can continue selling PSVR1 bundles for $150-$180 this Christmas and next Christmas, just empty out their remaining stock. And then in 2022, the PS5 is settled in, and they can release a PSVR2 accessory, hopefully the costs of components have improved, maybe they can introduce a high-quality headset and high-quality controllers for around $350 to $400. I think Skyrim VR is the perfect model for these AAA developers to follow. Release your AAA video game, and then a year later sell a "Game of the Year" Edition that also makes the game VR compatible, or sell people a VR-compatible update for $15, the developer gets extra money, and its worth it to them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,613 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Kinect was a success . Psvr is a flop . At least ms killed kinect . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,230 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, JONBpc said: Kinect was a success . Psvr is a flop . At least ms killed kinect . LOL, he's basically telling us that he's become a joke parody account. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ike★ 2,906 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Astro Bot is the best platformer released this gen and Beat Sabers is one of the best games in general released this gen. VR is awesome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) Well it's another big plus in the bag for PS5. It's not like XBox needed some exclusive defining features for their platform anyways... Edited November 26, 2019 by Team 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ike★ 2,906 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Has PS5 been confirmed to be compatible with the original PSVR? I don't see why it wouldn't be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,055 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ike said: Has PS5 been confirmed to be compatible with the original PSVR? I don't see why it wouldn't be. Yes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,613 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: Well it's another big plus in the bag for PS5. It's not like XBox needed some exclusive defining features for their platform anyways... Huge plus for the under 5 percent that will buy it , lmfao. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,725 Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, JONBpc said: Huge plus for the under 5 percent that will buy it , lmfao. Yeah losing access to a whole library of VR games that are coming to PSVR2 and PC, nevermind exclusives is sure cool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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