The Witcher Netflix series is receiving early praise, makes "Game of Thrones look like two drunks fighting"

[Vini 430]

3 hours ago, Goukosan said:

It did fly over your head....Nuclear Holocaust wasn't equated to racism.   Racism was the fight that hooded justice was fighting against.

  

The real bad guys wasn't even the racist....she used his fight to get what she wanted and he used her to finish the fight he couldn't because he was old as dirt now. 

  

You're just triggered because the show had racist people in it..... you were triggered from Episode one when you lost your shit and started crying from the jump....bbbut how dare they include racists in the show 

The creator literally said they were looking for a threat equivalent to nuclear holocaust and landed on racism in America

[jehurey 3,227]

37 minutes ago, Vini said:

The creator literally said they were looking for a threat equivalent to nuclear holocaust and landed on racism in America

No, he didn't.

 

I listened to Damon Lindelof in the podcasts, and you simply aren't explaining it correctly. Either intentionally, or you're just too stupid to understand.

 

The big story happening in America back in 1985 was the Cold War, fear of Russia. that is what threatened America.

 

In this case, for 2019, it was America fighting itself over racism.

 

And he is correct about that. That is the biggest issue, except he AMPLIFIED it by showing how much worse it would be if reparations were implemented. This is Damon Lindelof's viewpoint of what state America would be if that happened.

[-GD-X★ 7,729]

Back on topic. I finished The Witcher. I liked it a lot. it’s inconsistent, ranging from forgettable 90’s TV fantasy to something slicker, nearly hitting the AAA mark. Yennifer and Geralt truly make this first season. Both delivered on the acting front, and their chemistry felt rich and organic. I hope the viewer numbers are great for season 1, because there’s a great foundation here. Yes, limitations in the budget were apparent, and the writing is quite simple. However, as a fun, mindless fantasy series, there’s a lot to work with. The show will never be the next Game of Thrones, but that’s fine. The series has its own identity. Let’s hope season 2 builds on this mostly effective debut. 
 

score: 7.5/10

[Goukosan 2,249]

2 hours ago, -GD- said:

Back on topic. I finished The Witcher. I liked it a lot. it’s inconsistent, ranging from forgettable 90’s TV fantasy to something slicker, nearly hitting the AAA mark. Yennifer and Geralt truly make this first season. Both delivered on the acting front, and their chemistry felt rich and organic. I hope the viewer numbers are great for season 1, because there’s a great foundation here. Yes, limitations in the budget were apparent, and the writing is quite simple. However, as a fun, mindless fantasy series, there’s a lot to work with. The show will never be the next Game of Thrones, but that’s fine. The series has its own identity. Let’s hope season 2 builds on this mostly effective debut. 
 

score: 7.5/10

These are my thoughts too.  Enjoy the Witcher for what it is but it doesn't even come close to quality of game of thrones.....and it doesn't have to.

 

[Goukosan 2,249]

7 hours ago, Vini said:

The creator literally said they were looking for a threat equivalent to nuclear holocaust and landed on racism in America

riiiiight....is that why the racists ended up not being the real threat on the show? 

[jehurey 3,227]

5 hours ago, Goukosan said:

These are my thoughts too.  Enjoy the Witcher for what it is but it doesn't even come close to quality of game of thrones.....and it doesn't have to.

 

LOL season one is based on two books of short stories.

 

We haven't even gotten to the first trilogy of main novels, which deals with a multiple kingdoms joining together to start a war against the big bad kingdom from season one and both sides want Ciri for different reasons

 

Blood of Elves:

Spoiler

 

About a year before the beginning of the story, the Empire of Nilfgaard attacks the Kingdom of Cintra. Queen Calanthe, mortally wounded, commits suicide and her granddaughter, Cirilla, called Ciri and nicknamed the "Lion Cub of Cintra" manages to flee from the burning capital city. Emhyr var Emreis, Emperor of Nilfgaard, sends his spies to find her. He knows that this young girl has great importance, not only because of her royal blood, but also because of her magical potential and elven blood in her veins.

 

Almost two years after the war (won by the Northern Kingdoms), the rulers of the North meet in secret, to discuss the political situation. Peace with Nilfgaard is not what it was supposed to be. Nilfgaardian financial power is ruining the northern economy, Nilfgaardian emissaries agitate aristocrats and merchants against their monarchs, elves and dwarves have formed partisan groups called Scoia'tael (Squirrels) and are conducting acts of terror against humans - and in every major city cultists are prophesying that the world will end, unless the Savior comes from the South. The kings decide to start a war, before the Empire weakens their countries further, and to regain Cintra. They are aware that the Emperor is looking for Ciri to marry her (morganatically) and thus to gain the rights to Cintra, which is now under Nilfgaardian occupation. To prevent this, the monarchs decide to find and kill Ciri.

 

The girl is being protected by Geralt of Rivia, a witcher: a magically and genetically mutated monster slayer for hire, who takes her to the witchers' keep, Kaer Morhen. There Ciri is taught by other witchers, including old Vesemir, Coën, Eskel, and Lambert. She learns about monsters and how to fight them. She is taught to fight with a sword in the witcher style.

 

The scope and breadth of the story easily becomes bigger. Except this story makes 2 or 3 characters super-important, and thankfully Netflix did a good job with the casting, and in Geralt, they hit an absolute home run with the casting with a bonafide action hero.

Edited December 25, 2019 by jehurey

[Vini 430]

 

11 hours ago, jehurey said:

No, he didn't.

 

I listened to Damon Lindelof in the podcasts, and you simply aren't explaining it correctly. Either intentionally, or you're just too stupid to understand.

 

The big story happening in America back in 1985 was the Cold War, fear of Russia. that is what threatened America.

 

In this case, for 2019, it was America fighting itself over racism.

 

And he is correct about that. That is the biggest issue, except he AMPLIFIED it by showing how much worse it would be if reparations were implemented. This is Damon Lindelof's viewpoint of what state America would be if that happened.

Yeah except it isn't the biggest issue

 

I would argue climate change, election interference, wealth inequality and breakdown of sense making mechanisms are bigger issues on the world scale facing America. 

 

Would've been a better show if it tackled those issues instead of shoehorning racism and making Rorscharch some alt right figure. Fuck outta here lmao. 

 

Edited December 25, 2019 by Vini

[jehurey 3,227]

1 hour ago, Vini said:

 

Yeah except it isn't the biggest issue

 

I would argue climate change, election interference, wealth inequality and breakdown of sense making mechanisms are bigger issues on the world scale facing America. 

 

Would've been a better show if it tackled those issues instead of shoehorning racism and making Rorscharch some alt right figure. Fuck outta here lmao. 

 

You're not going to make Americans openly fight and conspire against each other in the streets over those issues.

 

But there is a clear record of racism doing exactly that.

 

You just don't like that their highlighted racism, like any other alt-right who got pissed.  Doesn't matter, Lindelof made the right call.

 

Rorshach HAS FASCIST viewpoints that makes him a hypocrite, and alt-right'ers have taken it and warped it for their views.

 

Which is something that alt-right'ers do all the time..................its something YOU DO all the time (example: Chappelle's stand-up special became an alt-right battle cry).

 

Since Lindelof was clearly structuring this short tv series to be similar to the comic book, he chose the right subject as the ignition point to a larger story.

Edited December 25, 2019 by jehurey

[JonDnD 2,608]

I watched a few episodes of this in the morning and its pretty entertaining. If you aren't a fan of the Witcher world tho idk how great it would be.

Kinda want to start Witcher 3 over on PC now.

[Vini 430]

1 hour ago, jehurey said:

You're not going to make Americans openly fight and conspire against each other in the streets over those issues.

 

 

Most of those issues lead to polarization and ideological extremism especially on social media platforms. 

 

Edited December 25, 2019 by Vini

[jehurey 3,227]

32 minutes ago, Vini said:

 

Most of those issues lead to polarization and ideological extremism especially on social media platforms. 

 

Social media isn't fucking rioting in the streets, now is it?

 

Gee, what long lingering subject in this country has a history of such a thing?

 

There's nothing here for you to argue against. Lindelof picked the most obvious subject.

 

Not only is he right, he demonstrated from the opening scene that it is something that has been happening in this country for well over a hundred years.

Edited December 25, 2019 by jehurey

[Goukosan 2,249]

2 hours ago, jehurey said:

LOL season one is based on two books of short stories.

 

We haven't even gotten to the first trilogy of main novels, which deals with a multiple kingdoms joining together to start a war against the big bad kingdom from season one and both sides want Ciri for different reasons

 

Blood of Elves:

  Reveal hidden contents

 

About a year before the beginning of the story, the Empire of Nilfgaard attacks the Kingdom of Cintra. Queen Calanthe, mortally wounded, commits suicide and her granddaughter, Cirilla, called Ciri and nicknamed the "Lion Cub of Cintra" manages to flee from the burning capital city. Emhyr var Emreis, Emperor of Nilfgaard, sends his spies to find her. He knows that this young girl has great importance, not only because of her royal blood, but also because of her magical potential and elven blood in her veins.

 

Almost two years after the war (won by the Northern Kingdoms), the rulers of the North meet in secret, to discuss the political situation. Peace with Nilfgaard is not what it was supposed to be. Nilfgaardian financial power is ruining the northern economy, Nilfgaardian emissaries agitate aristocrats and merchants against their monarchs, elves and dwarves have formed partisan groups called Scoia'tael (Squirrels) and are conducting acts of terror against humans - and in every major city cultists are prophesying that the world will end, unless the Savior comes from the South. The kings decide to start a war, before the Empire weakens their countries further, and to regain Cintra. They are aware that the Emperor is looking for Ciri to marry her (morganatically) and thus to gain the rights to Cintra, which is now under Nilfgaardian occupation. To prevent this, the monarchs decide to find and kill Ciri.

 

The girl is being protected by Geralt of Rivia, a witcher: a magically and genetically mutated monster slayer for hire, who takes her to the witchers' keep, Kaer Morhen. There Ciri is taught by other witchers, including old Vesemir, Coën, Eskel, and Lambert. She learns about monsters and how to fight them. She is taught to fight with a sword in the witcher style.

 

The scope and breadth of the story easily becomes bigger. Except this story makes 2 or 3 characters super-important, and thankfully Netflix did a good job with the casting, and in Geralt, they hit an absolute home run with the casting with a bonafide action hero.

obviously our review is of season 1.  Can't rate the other seasons until it's out

[JonDnD 2,608]

Only Jerry would turn the fucking Witcher into some anti white man bullshit 

 

Can you enjoy fucking anything? You hate yourself so damn bad.

[Goukosan 2,249]

2 hours ago, Vini said:

 

Yeah except it isn't the biggest issue

 

I would argue climate change, election interference, wealth inequality and breakdown of sense making mechanisms are bigger issues on the world scale facing America. 

 

Would've been a better show if it tackled those issues instead of shoehorning racism and making Rorscharch some alt right figure. Fuck outta here lmao. 

 

Hey Retard....1) Rorschach himself wasn't an Alt right figure. 

 

2) The use of the Rorschach mask was a front.... they didn't actually believe his Journal was an Alt right manifesto...... the goal was to have cops and bad guys in masks. 

 

 

 

 

[Goukosan 2,249]

11 minutes ago, JONBpc said:

Only Jerry would turn the fucking Witcher into some anti white man bullshit 

 

Can you enjoy fucking anything? You hate yourself so damn bad.

Someone tell slow Jonny that Jehurey and Vini are talking about the watchmen 

[Vini 430]

13 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

Hey Retard....1) Rorschach himself wasn't an Alt right figure. 

 

2) The use of the Rorschach mask was a front.... they didn't actually believe his Journal was an Alt right manifesto...... the goal was to have cops and bad guys in masks. 

 

 

 

 

I don't buy the whole premise I think it's laughable

 

I can see why you guys do

 

Let's leave it at that

[jehurey 3,227]

25 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

obviously our review is of season 1.  Can't rate the other seasons until it's out

Of course we can because we already know what the books are.

 

Unlike Game of Thrones........the author actually finished his work, and we don't have showrunners just winging it with a precipitous drop in quality.

 

There are two, potentially three end points for the series should Netflix want to stop.

[jehurey 3,227]

6 minutes ago, Vini said:

I don't buy the whole premise I think it's laughable

 

I can see why you guys do

 

Let's leave it at that

Nobody cares that you don't "buy" the premise...........plenty of people already did.

 

Its not our fault you didn't correctly understand parts of the comic book.

[jehurey 3,227]

21 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

Hey Retard....1) Rorschach himself wasn't an Alt right figure. 

 

2) The use of the Rorschach mask was a front.... they didn't actually believe his Journal was an Alt right manifesto...... the goal was to have cops and bad guys in masks. 

 

 

 

 

jesus, jonb really is pretty damn stupid

[Goukosan 2,249]

5 minutes ago, jehurey said:

Of course we can because we already know what the books are.

 

Unlike Game of Thrones........the author actually finished his work, and we don't have showrunners just winging it with a precipitous drop in quality.

 

There are two, potentially three end points for the series should Netflix want to stop.

You have not seen how Netflix will execute season 2...

 

Will the budget be less than it already was ? Will the acting be worse than it already was this season? (the main characters did their part, the extras were garbo)...... Will the dialog improve or regress? 

 

Can't judge any of those things until season 2 releases.