Remij 4,670 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, lynux3 said: So now it's design wise and not technical? Not surprising you have to move goal posts to continue an argument you lost pages ago. PlayStation 5 exclusives designed around next gen hardware with no compromises (Xbox One) and only learning curves (new hardware). Holy fucking shit you can't be this stupid... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quad Damage 1,717 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, JONBpc said: Lmao cows are literally listing higher PC settings as reasons games couldn't be on ps4 LMAO lemmings are literally defending playing xbox one level games for 9 years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,052 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, Remij_ said: Holy fucking shit you can't be this stupid... This is literally all you have left. Petty insults because you've run out of room to move those posts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,052 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Quad Damage said: lemmings are literally defending playing xbox one level games for 9 years Here's the excuse list: Quote Ray tracing? lol.. see any game out with RT.... SSD speeds? More frequent loading on last gen consoles... VRS? Uh... dynamic res.. lower res.. ect.. Graphical fidelity? Lower the fidelity... Animations? reduce the physics, limit the number of characters on screen at a time.. ect.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, lynux3 said: This is literally all you have left. Petty insults because you've run out of room to move those posts. lmao.. yes that's all that's left to say to you... because you're so fucking stupid that I can't realistically have a discussion with you. The question asks what kinds of games could be possible on the new hardware and not scaled back to the old hardware. That relates to game design.... because VISUALS can easily be scaled down.. So what about the CORE of the game... is going to make it not possible on PS4? How would devs have to drastically redesign the game to make a similar product for the last gen... The thing that sucks is that I can ask these questions in an honest manner.. to really try to understand what some of you guys think next gen consoles might be capable of that really changes the game... but it's always met with the same SW mentality bullshit. Yes... I'm obviously trying to prove a point... but I'm also trying to be proven wrong about why MY thoughts are on the initial games for next gen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,052 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Remij_ said: lmao.. yes that's all that's left to say to you... because you're so fucking stupid that I can't realistically have a discussion with you. The question asks what kinds of games could be possible on the new hardware and not scaled back to the old hardware. That relates to game design.... because VISUALS can easily be scaled down.. So what about the CORE of the game... is going to make it not possible on PS4? How would devs have to drastically redesign the game to make a similar product for the last gen... The thing that sucks is that I can ask these questions in an honest manner.. to really try to understand what some of you guys think next gen consoles might be capable of that really changes the game... but it's always met with the same SW mentality bullshit. Yes... I'm obviously trying to prove a point... but I'm also trying to be proven wrong about why MY thoughts are on the initial games for next gen. Quote Ray tracing? lol.. see any game out with RT.... SSD speeds? More frequent loading on last gen consoles... VRS? Uh... dynamic res.. lower res.. ect.. Graphical fidelity? Lower the fidelity... Animations? reduce the physics, limit the number of characters on screen at a time.. ect.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, lynux3 said: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,227 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Remij_ said: So...you can't refute what I said. So now you're building the narrative that I'm making some other argument... lmao. You simply can't accept that you're wrong about something and leave it at that... What you're doing... is building an argument for me and trying to get ahead of it and prove it wrong.... Stawmanhurey You are trying to make that argument. You're just trying to hide it behind some other bullshit. .......and its not fooling anybody. You suddenly deciding to question what is considered a cross-gen game.........when NOBODY was ever in need of clarifying it to begin with. You were trying to OBFUSCATE, son. And you know it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quad Damage 1,717 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Remij_ said: lmao.. yes that's all that's left to say to you... because you're so fucking stupid that I can't realistically have a discussion with you. The question asks what kinds of games could be possible on the new hardware and not scaled back to the old hardware. That relates to game design.... because VISUALS can easily be scaled down.. So what about the CORE of the game... is going to make it not possible on PS4? How would devs have to drastically redesign the game to make a similar product for the last gen... The thing that sucks is that I can ask these questions in an honest manner.. to really try to understand what some of you guys think next gen consoles might be capable of that really changes the game... but it's always met with the same SW mentality bullshit. Yes... I'm obviously trying to prove a point... but I'm also trying to be proven wrong about why MY thoughts are on the initial games for next gen. digital foundry with dat same sw mentality bullshit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,227 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Quad Damage said: lemmings are literally defending playing xbox one level games for 9 years Phil Spencer: "That'll be another $500, plz""This time it will be real 4K, and maybe even 60fps" Edited January 13, 2020 by jehurey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, jehurey said: You are trying to make that argument. You're just trying to hide it behind some other bullshit. .......and its not fooling anybody. You suddenly deciding to question what is considered a cross-gen game.........when NOBODY was ever in need of clarifying it to begin with. You were trying to OBFUSCATE, son. And you know it. No.... YOU are trying to make that argument FOR me.... lmao Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Quad Damage said: digital foundry with dat same sw mentality bullshit Has John said what he expects next gen to bring that isn't possible with a last gen port? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,608 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Lol cows literally cannot answer questions and go straight to baby mode Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,052 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Remij_ said: While PS5 has a list of exclusives, Xbox now has a list of excuses. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,227 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, Remij_ said: No.... YOU are trying to make that argument FOR me.... lmao Dude.......I knew you were engaging in bullshit the MOMENT you typed "when they release on PS5". You were trying to obfuscate, so I went and I listed the ONLY TWO ways that your PHRASING of "when they release on PS5" could possibly mean: 1.) You're trying to say that TLOU2 and Ghosts of Tsushima are 'releasing on PS5", and I listed what is clearly wrong about that 2.) You're trying to say that there's a specific sku of those games that will be releasing on PS5 I made sure to cover both ends of that, so that you couldn't try and HOP-SKIP your way out of this. Which is why you're just trying to pick up the ball and go home. at this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,608 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, Remij_ said: Has John said what he expects next gen to bring that isn't possible with a last gen port? Lmao john was having yet another mental break on era because he said it was cause him too much work . Sony fans supported him , even tho they trashed him and DF when they did the xbox vs ps spec video , almost made him quit his job hahaha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,608 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, lynux3 said: While PS5 has a list of exclusives, Xbox now has a list of excuses. List them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quad Damage 1,717 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, Remij_ said: Has John said what he expects next gen to bring that isn't possible with a last gen port? not sure, go tweet him. maybe he'll waste his time breaking down common sense Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,052 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, JONBpc said: List them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, jehurey said: Dude.......I knew you were engaging in bullshit the MOMENT you typed "when they release on PS5". You were trying to obfuscate, so I went and I listed the ONLY TWO ways that your PHRASING of "when they release on PS5" could possibly mean: 1.) You're trying to say that TLOU2 and Ghosts of Tsushima are 'releasing on PS5", and I listed what is clearly wrong about that 2.) You're trying to say that there's a specific sku of those games that will be releasing on PS5 I made sure to cover both ends of that, so that you couldn't try and HOP-SKIP your way out of this. Which is why you're just trying to pick up the ball and go home. at this point. I didn't type "when they release on PS5" I typed "if"... and that was specifically regarding my point about "cross gen games".... Jer... you're not smarter than me. So now that the argument about "what is a cross gen game" is over... you're trying to argue about something else... that I've not said. You're strawmanning the fuck out of this thread. It's what you do. It's what you also did back on Sidescrollers with the X1X shit. Do yourself a favor and stop trying to build an argument from me... You're wasting your time... and mine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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