JonDnD 2,608 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Looks like Sony is going to be well underpowered On the other hand, the Sony PS5 has something called a variable clock rate. What that means is that the console will not run the GPU at 2.23 GHz all the time. Since Microsoft's clock is a static number, just because PS5's clock rate is variable makes the 10.28 TFLOPs number uncomparable to the Xbox Series X and misleading. This is because XSX is displaying the "sustained TFLOPs" figure while PS5 is displaying the "peak TFLOPs" figure. The fact that the XSX has 44% higher CU count is something that the PS5 simply cannot overcome. Microsoft might actually have underclocked its own console to make way for a "fine wine" philosophy as we have seen in the past. In fact, if they were to approach a dynamic clocking philosophy as well, they can hit an astounding 14.6 TFLOPs figure (using the PS5 clocks) - which is absolutely insane for a console. That said, you don't want to do that. Optimizing games ishard and having a static clock with no power fluctuation shenanigans is always easier to work with than a dynamic approach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Yea. Alex from DF say that developers working on PS5 have told him that essentially they have 2 modes to choose from. One that favors the GPU clocks, and one that favors the CPU clocks. They essentially have to choose. Then the system will manage power between them to maximize that component. Basically Cerny's trying to make it sound like the PS5 will operate at 10TF "most of the time" but that's not actually true and has some caveats. It's essentially a 9TF machine... they just tried REALLY hard to push to hit that 10TF mark for marketing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,052 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I wish - Lemmings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 7,729 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 XSX will be a beast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,052 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Lemmings, for fuck sake don't look. Spoiler TLHBR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 The funny thing about the PS5 is that the heavier the system load gets i.e. more graphically intense games; the weaker it becomes because it's forced to underclock to maintain thermals. That is the dumbest shit I think I've ever seen, they should have just kept it at 9.2 and called it a day without introducing all these convolution which will undoubtedly piss developers off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,608 Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 They are false advertising . Slimy scums. Panic overclock to be double digits cause X gave it to you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kaz 2,439 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 0 games Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mother Fucker 26 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 8 hours ago, -GD- said: XSX will be a beast. Has there been any XSX game demoed yet? So far everyone is picking apart that ray-tracing demo for looking sub-bar and running at 30fps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Mother Fucker said: Has there been any XSX game demoed yet? So far everyone is picking apart that ray-tracing demo for looking sub-bar and running at 30fps. "everyone" i.e. nobody Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mother Fucker 26 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: "everyone" i.e. nobody everyone except fanboys defending it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Just now, The Mother Fucker said: everyone except fanboys defending it. Uhh yeah.... no Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Mother Fucker 26 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: Uhh yeah.... no case in point. lemming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spicalicious 128 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, kaz said: 0 games Playing Ace Combat 7 free on gamepass. What argument do you have now? You can keep trying to say X has 0 games but it doesn't mean it will become true Edited March 22, 2020 by Spicalicious Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vini 430 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Game pass will have a crazy amount of games by the time XSX comes out. Sony is already behind in the subscription model. Cranking out one movie game a year is no longer going to save the playstation brand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, Vini said: Game pass will have a crazy amount of games by the time XSX comes out. Sony is already behind in the subscription model. Cranking out one movie game a year is no longer going to save the playstation brand. Xbox will be last again next gen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vini 430 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, Goukosan said: Xbox will be last again next gen Maybe in the beginning but I don't think there will ever be a gap like there was this gen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, Vini said: Maybe in the beginning but I don't think there will ever be a gap like there was this gen. Yes there will... Xbox will again only appeal to the US gamer and the European and Asian market will shun it again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vini 430 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) Just now, Goukosan said: Yes there will... Xbox will again only appeal to the US gamer and the European and Asian market will shun it again Yeah that's a given nobody's banking on Japs playing xbox Edited March 23, 2020 by Vini Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Vini said: Yeah that's a given nobody's banking on Japs playing xbox and it will also lag behind in Europe too. That's why PlayStation always beats Xbox every gen.... world wide appeal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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