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Andrew Cuomo’s March 25th executive order requiring nursing homes to accept coronavirus patients

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Lets here it from the usual mentally ill leftists. Somehow Trumps fault thought, right? :trump:

 

 

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Lmfao, so Cuomo intentionally diverted Covid patients who could spread the disease into...places gathering and housing the most vulnerable population to Covd? No wonder NY's fatality rate is so enormous. :| 

 

Inb4 Cocke covers this thread by moving it into the politics forum with 2 people who browse at any given time.

 

 

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So this comes as news as they announce 1,700 undisclosed nursing home deaths.

 

A total of 5,300 nursing home deaths.

 

However, there are 101,518 elderly people in nursing homes in the state of New York, the highest in the country.

 

And the death rate, that was as high as 15% in Italy.................is about 5.3% in New York?

 

And this is assuming that patients coming from hospitals are responsible for spreading it in nursing homes, this doesn't seem to be the case. The biggest worry is the WORKERS who leave the facility and comeback every day, they're the ones that would bring the virus with them.

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2 minutes ago, Hot Sauce said:

Source?

For the elderly, by age decade.

 

And this was when it was at its worst in Italy.

 

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Just now, jehurey said:

For the elderly, by age decade.

 

And this was when it was at its worst in Italy.

 

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That's a case fatality rate for people infected by the virus. You can't compare that to nursing home deaths / number of people in nursing homes. That's retarded.

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3 minutes ago, Hot Sauce said:

That's a case fatality rate for people infected by the virus. You can't compare that to nursing home deaths / number of people in nursing homes. That's retarded.

Wouldn't the percentage of nursing home deaths be higher?

 

Not only higher.............but entirely consistent with the rest of Europe?

 

Nursing homes linked to up to half of coronavirus deaths in Europe, WHO says

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/nursing-homes-coronavirus-deaths-europe/2020/04/23/d635619c-8561-11ea-81a3-9690c9881111_story.html

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Just now, jehurey said:

Wouldn't the percentage of nursing home deaths be higher?

You're completely missing the point. You're comparing two statistics without any consideration for what the denominator in the calculation represents.

 

NYC nursing home resident deaths / NYC nursing home residents has a fixed denominator that represents a best case scenario calculation. The numerator can change if more nursing home residents die, but the denominator can't. It already accounts for every NYC nursing home resident. The 5% of NYC nursing home residents that have died cannot go down, it can only go up.

 

Italy's CFR can go up or down depending on whether the numerator or denominator increases more than the other relative to the existing CFR, but the denominator represents a worst case scenario because it only reflects the number of people who have the virus and have been tested. Anybody that had the virus but didn't get tested won't show up.

 

31 minutes ago, jehurey said:

Not only higher.............but entirely consistent with the rest of Europe?

 

Nursing homes linked to up to half of coronavirus deaths in Europe, WHO says

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/nursing-homes-coronavirus-deaths-europe/2020/04/23/d635619c-8561-11ea-81a3-9690c9881111_story.html

This is a completely different statistic, so what are you even trying to compare at this point?

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1 minute ago, Hot Sauce said:

Italy's CFR can go up or down depending on whether the numerator or denominator increases more than the other relative to the existing CFR, but the denominator represents a worst case scenario because it only reflects the number of people who have the virus and have been tested. Anybody that had the virus but didn't get tested won't show up.

 

This is a completely different statistic, so what are you even trying to compare at this point?

For starters................I wasn't making a comprehensive analysis of Italy's nursing home population, I was saying "as high as" which is clearly implying the height of the pandemic when things were really bad in italy.

 

I understand that the stats can and will change over time, but every you just said about the denominator being the same and the rate can only go higher..............would still apply to Italy's nursing home population.

 

I doubt their overall nursing home population has changed that much since mid-to-late March.

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