Remij 4,666 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 I can confirm the PC version is pretty sweet though. Runs smooth as butter and looks really damn good in motion. There are times when the lighting makes it look like Halo Infinite though I just took this shot and you really have to click on it to see it in full resolution to see a lot of detail that is there that is lost on anything less than a 4K monitor.. No wonder Youtube videos can't do it justice. This is the game maxed out and it doesn't matter what's happening on screen, at 4K native with no dynamic scaling it's locked 60. I'm pretty impressed. I'll see what kind of settings it takes to get to a locked 120fps lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,666 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Voidler said: Xbox is incapable of maintaining quality in 120 FPS mode That has to be a bug.. in the PC version I can lower settings as far as I possibly can and can not even come close to reproducing something that ugly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voidler 1,675 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Remij said: That has to be a bug.. in the PC version I can lower settings as far as I possibly can and can not even come close to reproducing something that ugly Dumbest shit I've heard You think the devs didn't notice the entire visual spectrum- models, textures, resolution etc being worse on Series X? This is the necessary sacrifice on Series X for 120 FPS. Xbox is only maintaining some closeness of parity (but still worse) on last gen games locking to 60. Once games start pushing for higher levels of performance, it falls away fast Time to accept Cerny knew what he was doing, he designed the more performant system. MS designed a system that doubles for server racks Edited November 21, 2020 by Voidler Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Remij said: No. It shows a bug A growing list of Series X games with bugs. Series S isn't holding back the Series X. You don't realize how stupid you sound/look trying to blame what's happening here on Series S. The bug is series S 🤣 Edited November 21, 2020 by Goukosan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,666 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, Voidler said: Dumbest shit I've heard You think the devs didn't notice the entire visual spectrum- models, textures, resolution etc being worse on Series X? This is the necessary sacrifice on Series X for 120 FPS. Xbox is only maintaining some closeness of parity (but still worse) on last gen games locking to 60. Once games start pushing for higher levels of performance, it falls away fast Time to accept Cerny knew what he was doing, he designed the more performant system. MS designed a system that doubles for server racks ok so I was wrong about not being able to reproduce it on PC. The fact is, the way this game handles it's settings is really fucking weird/interesting... which leans more into it being an oversight than anything else.. and I bet it gets fixed. So you have a basic pre-set, then a bunch of tweakable parameters... but the thing is that they utilize that pre-set as a base. I think the general settings just adjust in increments based off that.. because the way this game works is very dynamic in nature. On PC though, we can actually set these things to be constant and not adaptive. Turns out the Series X is rendering the Ultra Low geometry setting: Here's the next lowest setting... Low: and then compared to the highest setting: So I'd say it's a bug that the game is accidentally rendering forced lowest settings when it's actually supposed to be adaptive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voidler 1,675 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, Remij said: ok so I was wrong about not being able to reproduce it on PC. The fact is, the way this game handles it's settings is really fucking weird/interesting... which leans more into it being an oversight than anything else.. and I bet it gets fixed. So you have a basic pre-set, then a bunch of tweakable parameters... but the thing is that they utilize that pre-set as a base. I think the general settings just adjust in increments based off that.. because the way this game works is very dynamic in nature. On PC though, we can actually set these things to be constant and not adaptive. Turns out the Series X is rendering the Ultra Low geometry setting: Here's the next lowest setting... Low: and then compared to the highest setting: So I'd say it's a bug that the game is accidentally rendering forced lowest settings when it's actually supposed to be adaptive. The games has looked like this on Series X since preview builds showing 120 fps in early October. They copped big criticisms for the visuals at that point too. It has now been out 2 weeks and no patch if it's just a simple settings "bug" Im sure they will add performance improvements on both but its not a bug, this is what they had to do to get Series X running above 60 FPS And to think this is another game with Xbox marketing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,666 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, Voidler said: The games has looked like this on Series X since preview builds showing 120 fps in early October. They copped big criticisms for the visuals at that point too. It has now been out 2 weeks and no patch if it's just a simple settings "bug" Im sure they will add performance improvements on both but its not a bug, this is what they had to do to get Series X running above 60 FPS And to think this is another game with Xbox marketing It's 100% a bug. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voidler 1,675 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Remij said: It's 100% a bug. Yeah I'm sure nobody in the entirety of Codemasters noticed a whole mode running on the lowest settings prior to launch or in the 2 weeks since Listen to yourself Its okay to accept sacrifices were made on Xbox Series consoles in the lead up to launch either because the systems are too weak or have no install base with low projected hardware sales and thus deemed unimportant. Probably both factors Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Remij 4,666 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, Voidler said: Yeah I'm sure nobody in the entirety of Codemasters noticed a whole mode running on the lowest settings prior to launch or in the 2 weeks since Listen to yourself Its okay to accept sacrifices were made on Xbox Series consoles in the lead up to launch either because the systems are too weak or have no install base with low projected hardware sales and thus deemed unimportant. Probably both factors Dude... I'm playing the fucking game... It's a bug lmao. Know how I know? The FPS difference between Ultra Low... and Ultra High... is 4 fucking FPS..... LMAO give me a break dude... bubub the sacrificed it for performance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voidler 1,675 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Remij said: Dude... I'm playing the fucking game... It's a bug lmao. Know how I know? The FPS difference between Ultra Low... and Ultra High... is 4 fucking FPS..... LMAO give me a break dude... bubub the sacrificed it for performance Lmao in the menu, and hardly on comparable hardware And the tessellation, texture quality, resolution, environment detail are all significantly lowered on Series X Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,666 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Voidler said: Lmao in the menu, and hardly on comparable hardware And the tessellation, texture quality, resolution, environment detail are all significantly lowered on Series X That's during a race....... Edited November 22, 2020 by Remij Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Purist 134 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Holy shit these memes are out of control Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voidler 1,675 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Remij said: Your damage control is so bad right now. At least the lemmings are smart enough to avoid these threads. You though, not so bright Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,084 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Software shit, repeat 1000x, close thread. This shit is temporary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,666 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Voidler said: Your damage control is so bad right now. At least the lemmings are smart enough to avoid these threads. You though, not so bright You're fucking STUPID I love how I can actually test all these different settings out and show how little some of them matter and smack you in the face with them Both Tessellation and Geometry set to their lowest possible settings Now their highest LOL 6fps Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,666 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said: Software shit, repeat 1000x, close thread. This shit is temporary. You have to admit though... it's REALLY unfortunate for this stuff to be happening to the more powerful console.. and at launch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voidler 1,675 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Remij said: You're fucking STUPID I love how I can actually test all these different settings out and show how little some of them matter and smack you in the face with them Both Tessellation and Geometry set to their lowest possible settings Now their highest LOL 6fps The fuck are you showing me the frame rate of a menu on your PC? Did I say PS5 is more powerful than your PC? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,084 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Just now, Remij said: You have to admit though... it's REALLY unfortunate for this stuff to be happening to the more powerful console.. and at launch. I'm actually glad it's happening now, this is the perfect transition time from XDK to GDK. There's not really games coming for months, what's available now are the yearly middling AAA filler that people don't really care about. This is the most opportune time. If they did this during the middle of the generation or something when everything and everyone are firing on all cylinders that would be a huge mess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,666 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Voidler said: The fuck are you showing me the frame rate of a menu on your PC? Did I say PS5 is more powerful than your PC? I'm showing you the performance impact of each of the settings you stupid fuck.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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