Playstation Tablet 1,722 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Looks like this failure of X is hitting mainsteam. https://www.theverge.com/21718936/xbox-series-x-ps5-performance-game-comparison Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,204 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 VRR eliminates most issues on XSX. A feature PS5 is oddly missing, despite it being advertised. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ike★ 2,906 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Xbox is utter trash. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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jehurey 3,222 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, ghostz life matters said: VRR eliminates most issues on XSX. A feature PS5 is oddly missing, despite it being advertised. If VRR is used more on the XsX, then it means that its a lower framerate. And...........your television would have to be capable of VRR, which means you have to have an HDMI 2.1 television. Less than 3 or 4 people on this forum have a HDMI 2.1 capable television. Therefore defaulting to saying that it can be offset by VRR as a positive feature simply doesn't apply to most people. The vast majority of people will see stuttering and screen tearing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,204 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 17 minutes ago, jehurey said: If VRR is used more on the XsX, then it means that its a lower framerate. And...........your television would have to be capable of VRR, which means you have to have an HDMI 2.1 television. Less than 3 or 4 people on this forum have a HDMI 2.1 capable television. Therefore defaulting to saying that it can be offset by VRR as a positive feature simply doesn't apply to most people. The vast majority of people will see stuttering and screen tearing. I do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,722 Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 12 and 10tflops are just a theoritical maximum that consoles can hit. I'm starting to believe Cerny, that less CUs in a GPU are easier to fill than many CUs in a GPU. His point that at higher clock speeds your GPU's other parts can works much faster say like the fillrate. And that not having a divided pool of memory like X, is simply easier to maximize. Though early to call right now, it's possibly to speculate that the PS5 GPU can hit its theoretical maximum much easier than X. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,722 Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 Just now, ghostz life matters said: I do Who gives a shit, it's confirmed VRR is coming to PS5 soon in a patch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,042 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 One of the largest software companies in the world... Makes shit tools. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,222 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, ghostz life matters said: I do i know. i'm the one who lectured you entirely on the subject. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,722 Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, lynux3 said: One of the largest software companies in the world... Makes shit tools. That's an excuse. In theory X has a 16% tflop advantage. So at the very least it should be EQUAL. In practice is performing even less, with PS5 having 15-25% framerate advantage in some games. That's way too much of a gulf to just give up to the "tools" excuse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,222 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, lynux3 said: One of the largest software companies in the world... Makes shit tools. yeah, Microsoft should demonstrate that they are a company that puts effort in supporting developers. I mean, it needs to be a strong and repetitive message that one of their main focus is all about developers. In fact, i'd say that the people who run the company need to go running around and hammering the one thing that's important to them, and repeating that over and over again until their sweaty all over. Developers. Like this guy: but i totally understand MS not having the tools for their developers. Its not their M.O., historically speaking. Edited November 25, 2020 by jehurey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,548 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Tom Warren before launch 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,722 Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, madmaltese said: Tom Warren before launch 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 but LemiJ's sources said the PS5 tools where way behind ane developers were having issues with the system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,722 Posted November 25, 2020 Author Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Goukosan said: but LemiJ's sources said the PS5 tools where way behind ane developers were having issues with the system. It makes perfect sense because PS5 tools won't improve over time, only MS tools. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,204 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 hours ago, jehurey said: i know. i'm the one who lectured you entirely on the subject. Hdr still sucks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
102020393023445948594 2,223 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 god damn another failed flop of a launch and console Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voidler 1,675 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Listen to this man, it was all in Road to PS5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voidler 1,675 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 3 hours ago, ghostz life matters said: VRR eliminates most issues on XSX. A feature PS5 is oddly missing, despite it being advertised. VRR just sync your TV refresh rate to the lower frame rate, it doesn't eliminate the lower frame rate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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