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45 R Senatorrs vote Trump impeachment inconstitutional because no longer in office


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In a sign of how worthless Republicans are, look no further. It was always a far cry but 45 total republicans is shameful.

 

So basically you can't go to trial with a sitting president, and when he's gone it's unconstitutional because he's no longer there. Good to know the president is above the law

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9189847/45-Republican-senators-vote-Trump-trial-illegal-sign-vote-acquit.html

 

  • A majority of Republicans voted Tuesday that Donald Trump's second impeachment is unconstitutional
  • It's a sign the former president will likely be acquitted in his upcoming trial 
  • Republican Senator Rand Paul forced the Senate to vote on the matter
  • Paul argued that trying a former president would violate the U.S. Constitution 
  • 'I think it'll be enough to show that, you know, more than a third of the Senate thinks that the whole proceeding is unconstitutional, which will show that ultimately they don't have the votes to do an impeachment,' Paul said 
  • 45 Republicans voted trial was unconstitutional
  • Paul said the vote meant 'the impeachment trial is dead on arrival' 
  • 'It's one of the few times in Washington where a loss is actually a victory,' he said 
  • Also, the 100 senators were sworn in as Trump's jury 
  • The trial is expected to begin on Feb. 9 but the article of impeachment was delivered to the Senate Monday evening 
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Except there's already wording that exists in which, when there's an Impeachment Trial in the Senate, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court judges over the trial WHEN the President is in office, and a Senator can be the judge when the President is OUT of office.

 

So, that wording already implies that a trial and judgement can occur when a president has already left office.

 

Republicans are just pretending to play stupid.

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Rand Paul is a fucking idiot.  There have been a couple of occasions where someone in power has been tried after they resigned or left office though there wasn't a majority vote so they were not convicted.  There has also been a few occasions where the trial in the Senat has stopped after resignation.  

 

There is nothing in the Constitution that precludes a trial and conviction in the Senate after the offender has left office.  

 

Of course Rand Paul is preaching to his constituents which are mostly retarded.  

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1 hour ago, DynamiteCop said:

No crimes, two failed impeachments

 

:patpatpat:

 

No crimes? That's not what they said. 

 

They're saying he is already gone so why charge him with the Crimes he committed as President when his isn't president anymore doofus 😂🤣

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45 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

 

No crimes? That's not what they said. 

 

They're saying he is already gone so why charge him with the Crimes he committed as President when his isn't president anymore doofus 😂🤣

https://apnews.com/article/94323cfc164c4759ba6bf84ad2a46203
 

Also, it’s not that he didn’t commit crimes. It was just the federal rules that kept him from being charged. 
 

“If we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so,” Mueller declared.

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2 hours ago, Goukosan said:

 

No crimes? That's not what they said. 

 

They're saying he is already gone so why charge him with the Crimes he committed as President when his isn't president anymore doofus 😂🤣

Until someone has been convicted there's been no commission of a crime.

 

Due process, innocent until proven guilty. These are immutable and inarguable facts of the criminal justice system.

 

No crimes, two failed impeachments. Nothing needs to be said beyond this; ever.

 

Discussion over.

 

:patpatpat:

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24 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said:

Until someone has been convicted there's been no commission of a crime.

 

Due process, innocent until proven guilty. These are immutable and inarguable facts of the criminal justice system.

 

No crimes, two failed impeachments. Nothing needs to be said beyond this; ever.

 

Discussion over.

 

:patpatpat:

 

We don't think we should charge him because he isn't there anymore is actually an admission that there was a crime you clown. 

 

They're saying the crime was committed when he was in office and that he is not in office anymore so why charge him. 

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3 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

 

We don't think we should charge him because he isn't there anymore is actually an admission that there was a crime you clown. 

 

They're saying the crime was committed when he was in office and that he is not in office anymore so why charge him. 

Hey idiot.

 

29 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said:

Until someone has been convicted there's been no commission of a crime.

 

Due process, innocent until proven guilty. These are immutable and inarguable facts of the criminal justice system.

 

No crimes, two failed impeachments. Nothing needs to be said beyond this; ever.

 

Discussion over.

 

:patpatpat:

 

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1 minute ago, DynamiteCop said:

Hey idiot.

 

 

 

Republicans - "yea he did a crime, but he is not president anymore. Doesn't make sense to charge him."

 

DynamiteCop -  "OMG that means he didn't commit the crime :adhd:

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Just now, Goukosan said:

 

Republicans - "yea he did a crime, but he is not president anymore. Doesn't make sense to charge him."

 

DynamiteCop -  "OMG that means he didn't commit the crime :adhd:

No conviction, no crime. Adjudication with an outcome has to take place rendering him guilty.

 

This isn't an argument. Pack your shit, and take a hike.

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2 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said:

No conviction, no crime. Adjudication with an outcome has to take place rendering him guilty.

 

This isn't an argument. Pack your shit, and take a hike.

 

This retard is still conflating him actually committing a crime and him being charged with one 🤣😂🤣😂

 

Republicans already admitted he committed a crime that's seperate and apart from deciding to charge him or not. 

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1 minute ago, Goukosan said:

 

This retard is still conflating him actually committing a crime and him being charged with one 🤣😂🤣😂

 

Republicans already admitted he committed a crime that's seperate and apart from deciding to charge him or not. 

Get this through your dumb leftist brain.

 

DUE PROCESS, INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY 

 

No crime has been committed.

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Just now, DynamiteCop said:

Get this through your dumb leftist brain.

 

DUE PROCESS, INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY 

 

No crime has been committed.

 

Being found guilty is not the same as actually committing crime.... you cannot be this dumb 😂🤣😂🤣

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1 minute ago, Goukosan said:

 

Being found guilty is not the same as actually committing crime.... you cannot be this dumb 😂🤣😂🤣

If you're innocent or not guilty there has been no commission of a crime on your part.

 

Stop acting like a moron arguing against the fundamentals of the United States judicial system.

 

You're really being a dumbass.

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4 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said:

If you're innocent or not guilty there has been no commission of a crime on your part.

 

Stop acting like a moron arguing against the fundamentals of the United States judicial system.

 

You're really being a dumbass.

 

You're too stupid to realize you're arguing a totally different point. 

 

You keep saying he committed no crimes and your evidence is that he hasn't been convicted yet so that means he didn't commit the crime?   🤣😂🤣

 

I'm not arguing on whether he will be convicted or not.... because that doesn't actually change whether he committed a crime or not.

 

That only decides if he will face consequences for his crimes.   That's what's being discussed in congress.  They're not even arguing that he is innocent. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

 

You're too stupid to realize you're arguing a totally different point. 

 

You keep saying he committed no crimes and your evidence is that he hasn't been convicted yet so that means he didn't commit the crime?   🤣😂🤣

 

I'm not arguing on whether he will be convicted or not.... because that doesn't actually change whether he committed a crime or not.

 

It just changes if he will face consequences for his crimes. 

 

 

I'm arguing from a legal standpoint which is all that matters. Until proven guilty there has been no commission of a crime by the accused.

 

It's a charge, an indictment, an ACCUSATION until a guilty verdict is rendered.

 

No if's, and's or but's.

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