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Popular Post 102020393023445948594 2,223 Posted September 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2021 I was just about to make this thread, different title though: "Microsoft emergency contracts Crystal Dynamics to develop their skeleton initiative project, studio outed as a sham organization" 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
102020393023445948594 2,223 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 it all makes sense. Phil announced a fake 1st party studio when his fans were begging for studio acquisitions, solely for damage control purposes. Now that real acquisitions went through Initiative will be swept under the rug. just like the fake games he announced (Phantom Dust, etc) - these announcements were made solely to save the xbox's reputation. they were never meant to be actually followed through with. now this project has been pawned off to crystal dynamics... we've been bamboozled again ladies and gentleman. this is why Phil is "the greatest conman in the biz". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ike★ 2,906 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 So 2023 at the earliest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voidler 1,675 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Damn that is sad Must be an absolute shit show of development Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,554 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 WTF! MS' biggest new first party studio is partnering with a 3rd party studio to make a game.... What is even going on? What a mess. MS have a million studios and can't even have another first party team help out Initiative? I actually can't even think of this ever happening in the past, where it is announced like some co project like this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
102020393023445948594 2,223 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, madmaltese said: WTF! MS' biggest new first party studio is partnering with a 3rd party studio to make a game.... What is even going on? What a mess. MS have a million studios and can't even have another first party team help out Initiative? I actually can't even think of this ever happening in the past, where it is announced like some co project like this. it is unprecedented. maybe Square enix is offloading CD to MS, they've been entwined with that studio since the 100m dollar tomb raider fauXclusivity deal, and CD themselves are coming off a disaster project in Avengers. MS like the vulture, smelling the decaying stink of a dead studio, is moving in. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,085 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 52 minutes ago, madmaltese said: WTF! MS' biggest new first party studio is partnering with a 3rd party studio to make a game.... What is even going on? What a mess. MS have a million studios and can't even have another first party team help out Initiative? I actually can't even think of this ever happening in the past, where it is announced like some co project like this. You do realize that the Studio Head of The Initiative was the Studio Head of Crystal Dynamics right? No, you probably didn't make it that far... Also AAA development is never a singular affair, multiple studios are always involved and partnered with for development. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TLHBO 2,160 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Sounds like this game is having development trouble. I’s be concerned with CD as well, their games are very mediocre. Tomb Raider 2013 was the only standout game they’ve had. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,052 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 What an embarrassment for this alleged superstar studio. TLHBFR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,052 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, DynamiteCop said: You do realize that the Studio Head of The Initiative was the Studio Head of Crystal Dynamics right? No, you probably didn't make it that far... Also AAA development is never a singular affair, multiple studios are always involved and partnered with for development. Yeah, typically internally, but everyone knows that Xbox Studios is in such a shit show it's no wonder they went ahead and reached out to a studio who actually knows what the fuck is going on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
102020393023445948594 2,223 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Let's listen to a real industry professional who has managed multi-million dollar productions before Yep, this is stupid as hell and clearly a sign that the game is in trouble GHOST STUDIO 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 407 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 2021-09-24 at 4:46 AM, DynamiteCop said: You do realize that the Studio Head of The Initiative was the Studio Head of Crystal Dynamics right? No, you probably didn't make it that far... Also AAA development is never a singular affair, multiple studios are always involved and partnered with for development. Lmfao stop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TLHBO 2,160 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Body Count said: Let's listen to a real industry professional who has managed multi-million dollar productions before Yep, this is stupid as hell and clearly a sign that the game is in trouble GHOST STUDIO Everyone with a brain (so everyone but the lemmings) can see this project is in peril. The problem is Crystal Dynamics can barely make their own games, they don't have the talent to carry another studio. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PuNKy_LeMmInG 172 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 2021-09-24 at 8:50 AM, madmaltese said: WTF! MS' biggest new first party studio is partnering with a 3rd party studio to make a game.... What is even going on? What a mess. MS have a million studios and can't even have another first party team help out Initiative? I actually can't even think of this ever happening in the past, where it is announced like some co project like this. microsoft outsources with one company and its a bad 1st party , but naughty dog as 13 companies outsourced The Last Of Us Part 2 Workforce Was Huge According to info compiled by the site, a total of 2,169 developers working on the post-apocalyptic title, which included 13 companies that were outsourced. By comparison, something like Red Dead Redemption 2 had a massive 8,000 credited developers, although this doesn’t mean they were present throughout the entire production cycle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TLHBO 2,160 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 25 minutes ago, PuNKy_LeMmInG said: microsoft outsources with one company and its a bad 1st party , but naughty dog as 13 companies outsourced The Last Of Us Part 2 Workforce Was Huge According to info compiled by the site, a total of 2,169 developers working on the post-apocalyptic title, which included 13 companies that were outsourced. By comparison, something like Red Dead Redemption 2 had a massive 8,000 credited developers, although this doesn’t mean they were present throughout the entire production cycle. There's a difference between the major studio outsourcing some of the workload, and this pr disaster from MIcrosoft that basically makes it sound like a more experienced developer is being sent in to pull the game out of development hell. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PuNKy_LeMmInG 172 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, TLHBO said: There's a difference between the major studio outsourcing some of the workload, and this pr disaster from MIcrosoft that basically makes it sound like a more experienced developer is being sent in to pull the game out of development hell. 13 studio's some of the workload Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,608 Posted September 25, 2021 Author Share Posted September 25, 2021 lmao, TLHBO will be playing this Day One Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FIREPOWER 710 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) Wasn't the Initiative supposed to be MS' new "AAAA" development studio that they claimed would be taking on the likes of Naughty Dog? Why then do they need another AAA studio to come in to hold their hands and help them make games? This is fucking embarrassing. For the lemming idiots that will come at me and cite ND and other AAA studios using support studios for help, this is a very different scenario. There's a huge difference between outsourcing work to smaller support studios (which are literally designed for that) and needing another entire AAA studio to come in and help you in making your game. We've never seen a situation like this before. Makes you wonder WTF they've been doing over there since the studio was created in 2018. The game is probably in development hell or something. Either way TLHBFR. Edited September 25, 2021 by FIREPOWER Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quad Damage 1,717 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, FIREPOWER said: Wasn't the Initiative supposed to be MS' new "AAAA" development studio that they claimed would be taking on the likes of Naughty Dog? Why then do they need another AAA studio to come in to hold their hands and help them make games? This is fucking embarrassing. microsoft realized the initiative only had one A Edited September 25, 2021 by Quad Damage 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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