New leadership, same shit - NYC mayor Eric Adams endorses woke DA who won't prosecute many crimes and will downgrade felonies, including armed robbery

[Goukosan 2,250]

6 hours ago, Twinblade said:

Im pretty sure there are statistics showing that Stop and Frisk did reduce crime, and Eric Adams did support it at one point

 

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2021/05/25/eric-adams-explains-why-he-supports-stop-and-frisk--when-it-s-used-legally

 

But anyway, if you really want to believe that continued efforts to defund the police, and drop/downgrade charges for violent crimes are somehow going to make the city safer, then you're free to have those misguided beliefs. Im going to continue staying away from NYC until liberals start thinking with common sense.

 

Did you actually read the story in your own link? Adams said... LEGAL STOP AND FRISK... Keyword is LEGAL. 

 

The random stop and frisk you're talking about was ruled to be unconstitutional. 

 

“I fought against abusive stop-and-frisk. It’s on the record,” Adams said Monday in Harlem.

But Adams also steadfastly maintains stop-and-frisk is an effective tool when employed legally.

 

 

“We weren’t even frisking, we were searching people, we were throwing people up against the wall, we were going through their pockets, we were telling them to empty their pockets," he said. "That’s illegal.”

 

Adams said stop-and-frisk is typically used properly when cops are responding to a complaint.

 

 

And your BS about attempts to Defund the NYC police department... 

... NYC has the largest police budget in the United States.  It's bigger than what some 1st world countries spend on their entire police force for an entire nation. 

 

At $6 billion a year, the New York Police Department has the largest police budget in the nation. But when police pension, fringe benefits, settlements, and debt payments are added in, police spending actually swells to over $10 billion a year.

 

This 10 billion budget was under "woke" Mayor Deblasio, you know the same mayor that lowered the crime rate in NYC for 7 straight years. 

 

You live in a fantasy world where facts don't exist it seems. 

 

Since you're posting links on Adams... have you found the proof that Eric Adams supported Brags memo as yet?... You know the stuff you posed in you OP, what's the hold up?  It's been 5 days..... You wouldn't be peddling false information now would you?  You might have to lock your own thread as it's looking like you posted fake shit. 

Edited January 10, 2022 by Goukosan

[Twinblade★ 3,899]

1 hour ago, Goukosan said:

 

Did you actually read the story in your own link? Adams said... LEGAL STOP AND FRISK... Keyword is LEGAL. 

 

The random stop and frisk you're talking about was ruled to be unconstitutional. 

 

“I fought against abusive stop-and-frisk. It’s on the record,” Adams said Monday in Harlem.

But Adams also steadfastly maintains stop-and-frisk is an effective tool when employed legally.

 

 

“We weren’t even frisking, we were searching people, we were throwing people up against the wall, we were going through their pockets, we were telling them to empty their pockets," he said. "That’s illegal.”

 

Adams said stop-and-frisk is typically used properly when cops are responding to a complaint.

 

 

And your BS about attempts to Defund the NYC police department... 

... NYC has the largest police budget in the United States.  It's bigger than what some 1st world countries spend on their entire police force for an entire nation. 

 

At $6 billion a year, the New York Police Department has the largest police budget in the nation. But when police pension, fringe benefits, settlements, and debt payments are added in, police spending actually swells to over $10 billion a year.

 

This 10 billion budget was under "woke" Mayor Deblasio, you know the same mayor that lowered the crime rate in NYC for 7 straight years. 

 

You live in a fantasy world where facts don't exist it seems. 

 

Since you're posting links on Adams... have you found the proof that Eric Adams supported Brags memo as yet?... You know the stuff you posed in you OP, what's the hold up?  It's been 5 days..... You wouldn't be peddling false information now would you?  You might have to lock your own thread as it's looking like you posted fake shit. 

 
He said the DA was ‘great’ in a speech, but I’m not sure there’s actually a recording of it. It’s what people who heard it in person said.

 
Also DeBlasio inherited a safer NYC. Thinking he’s responsible for lowering the crime rate is pretty laughable. 
 

you talk about the police budget but they also spend $3 billion a year on the homeless population. Yet that’s an issue that’s also getting even more out of control. 
 

Clearly these mayors and democrat leaders have no idea what they’re doing and can’t properly manage budgets for shit.

[Goukosan 2,250]

7 hours ago, Twinblade said:

 
He said the DA was ‘great’ in a speech, but I’m not sure there’s actually a recording of it. It’s what people who heard it in person said.

 
Also DeBlasio inherited a safer NYC. Thinking he’s responsible for lowering the crime rate is pretty laughable. 
 

you talk about the police budget but they also spend $3 billion a year on the homeless population. Yet that’s an issue that’s also getting even more out of control. 
 

Clearly these mayors and democrat leaders have no idea what they’re doing and can’t properly manage budgets for shit.

 

You dropped that stop and frisk shit real quick, that means you didn't actually read the article you posted lmfao...nice self ownage there. 

 

It's 2022 when public figures speak there is either always a recording or a reporter reporting on what was said.   You have neither to back yup your BS claims. If Adams had supported brags new memo, the right wing media would actually have the quotes, instead of bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbuuut he said it IN A PUBLIC SPEECH trust me.. I just don't have the quote.

 

Your Deblasio logic doesn't make sense, I'll play along with your BS.   You're now saying he inherited a safer NYC.  But you're also saying his "woke" policies lead to more crime.... If that's the case shouldn't crime have INCREASED over the last 7 years? Instead of it DECREASING every year for 7 years?  Which means he made NYC safer for 7 years straight compared to when he got it.   Do you have any data to support Deblasio inheriting a safer NYC and him making it worse over 7 years? 

 

As for the NYPD budget, you claim there were efforts to defund it, yet Deblasio had a 10 billion budget for the police department... Where is your evidence to back up the NYPD department budget actually being defunded? 

 

Ohhhh now you pivoted to saying the democratic NYC Mayors doesn't now how to manage the budget?  How can that be true when crime decreased for 7 years strait under Deblasio with the 10 billion a year "defunded budget" doofus?

Edited January 10, 2022 by Goukosan

[Mr. Impossible 407]

19 hours ago, Twinblade said:

Im pretty sure there are statistics showing that Stop and Frisk did reduce crime, and Eric Adams did support it at one point

 

I just showed you that crime decreased over 7 years after moving away from it. This is exactly what Gak, Jerry, and myself are talking about. Even when you're proven wrong, you some how find an angle in your head where you still "might be" right and disregard what someone else said as their incorrect opinion. You're fucking deluded. 

 

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Adams said experiences like those make him uniquely positioned to critique and reform the NYPD.

“We weren’t even frisking, we were searching people, we were throwing people up against the wall, we were going through their pockets, we were telling them to empty their pockets," he said. "That’s illegal.”

 

Adams said stop-and-frisk is typically used properly when cops are responding to a complaint.

 

 

He's talking about "the good ol' days" you yearn for. Remember when I said that S&F was dehumanizing and created a two class system and your goofy ass smugly downplayed that notion. He described the issue with how it was really implemented which pretty much confirms what I said. Reformatting it in his "legal" sense seems kind of like an oxymoron as it's not actually S&F anymore. Cops have historically abused call responses to use S&F. 

 

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In a decision announced last week, a federal judge found the New York City Police Department’s “Stop-and-Frisk” policy unconstitutional.

The controversial policy allowed police officers to stop, interrogate and search New York City citizens on the sole basis of “reasonable suspicion.” Judge Shira A. Scheindlin ruled that NYPD’s stop-and-frisk tactics violate the U.S Constitution’s 4th Amendment prohibition of unreasonable searches and seizures.

Overwhelming evidence suggests that the policy is used as a method of racially profiling and harassing Black and Latino citizens. Minorities and many civil rights organizations such as the Center for Constitutional Rights and the NAACP, have voiced strong opposition to the policy.

The ruling was met with opposition from NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly and the city’s mayor, Michael Bloomberg. The city has announced it will appeal the decision and Mayor Bloomberg hopes to halt the court’s opinion at least until the end of his term, which ends this year.

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https://civilrights.org/edfund/resource/nypds-infamous-stop-and-frisk-policy-found-unconstitutional/

 

If this is what it takes for a grown ass man who doesn't even have enough self respect to be ashamed to say he's too afraid to go to Manhattan. I'm fine with that. Stay your bitch ass where you are. 

 

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But anyway, if you really want to believe that continued efforts to defund the police, and drop/downgrade charges for violent crimes are somehow going to make the city safer, then you're free to have those misguided beliefs. Im going to continue staying away from NYC until liberals start thinking with common sense.

 

Go fuck yourself you smug bitch. I'm free to have my misguided thoughts? Yet again you provide fucking nothing to back up what you're saying, and when you do it still backfires on you because you dont actually even read the shit you link past the headline. 

 

Now you're throwing in defunding the police in this conversation (which you were already owned in another thread) as some sort of deflection and it has nothing to do with this topic so stop being a rat for once.  

 

 

 

*Edit*

 

I didnt see Gak's reply before posting, so it covers similar grounds. It's unsurprising you respond with more of your delusional bullshit when presented with more information. It's like the more you're informed, the dumber you get. 

Edited January 10, 2022 by Mr. Impossible

[Mr. Impossible 407]

13 hours ago, Twinblade said:

 
He said the DA was ‘great’ in a speech, but I’m not sure there’s actually a recording of it. It’s what people who heard it in person said.

 
Also DeBlasio inherited a safer NYC. Thinking he’s responsible for lowering the crime rate is pretty laughable. 
 

you talk about the police budget but they also spend $3 billion a year on the homeless population. Yet that’s an issue that’s also getting even more out of control. 
 

Clearly these mayors and democrat leaders have no idea what they’re doing and can’t properly manage budgets for shit.

Who made you like this? 

[Mr. Impossible 407]

7 hours ago, Goukosan said:

 

You dropped that stop and frisk shit real quick, that means you didn't actually read the article you posted lmfao...nice self ownage there. 

 

It's 2022 when public figures speak there is either always a recording or a reporter reporting on what was said.   You have neither to back yup your BS claims. If Adams had supported brags new memo, the right wing media would actually have the quotes, instead of bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbuuut he said it IN A PUBLIC SPEECH trust me.. I just don't have the quote.

 

Your Deblasio logic doesn't make sense, I'll play along with your BS.   You're now saying he inherited a safer NYC.  But you're also saying his "woke" policies lead to more crime.... If that's the case shouldn't crime have INCREASED over the last 7 years? Instead of it DECREASING every year for 7 years?  Which means he made NYC safer for 7 years straight compared to when he got it.   Do you have any data to support Deblasio inheriting a safer NYC and him making it worse over 7 years? 

 

As for the NYPD budget, you claim there were efforts to defund it, yet Deblasio had a 10 billion budget for the police department... Where is your evidence to back up the NYPD department budget actually being defunded? 

 

Ohhhh now you pivoted to saying the democratic NYC Mayors doesn't now how to manage the budget?  How can that be true when crime decreased for 7 years strait under Deblasio with the 10 billion a year "defunded budget" doofus?

It's like arguing with a rock with a brain injury. 

[Goukosan 2,250]

On 2022-01-05 at 11:40 PM, Twinblade said:

 

And? Eric Adams is in control and he publicly backed the DA's policies. Thats all anyone needs to hear when it comes to the direction he wants to take the city in.

 

Still no luck with coming up with that proof huh... Damn 

[Twinblade★ 3,899]

1 hour ago, Goukosan said:

 

Still no luck with coming up with that proof huh... Damn 

 

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Democratic mayoral candidate Eric Adams said Saturday there was little difference on criminal justice issues between him and progressive Manhattan District Attorney candidate Alvin Bragg — who has vowed not to prosecute a raft of offenses if he’s elected.

 

https://nypost.com/2021/07/10/eric-adams-says-hes-in-crimefighting-step-with-da-candidate-alvin-bragg/

 

Are you done bumping old threads now?

[Goukosan 2,250]

2 hours ago, Twinblade said:

 

 

https://nypost.com/2021/07/10/eric-adams-says-hes-in-crimefighting-step-with-da-candidate-alvin-bragg/

 

Are you done bumping old threads now?

 

Your posting an article from more than 6 months, in reference to him supporting a January 2022 memo? How stupid are you? 

 

Spoiler alert. 

 

Adams did not support Braggs new memo like you claimed you lying sack of shit

 

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/08/eric-adams-outmaneuvered-district-attorney-00006296

 

How Eric Adams outmaneuvered Manhattan’s progressive district attorney

Adams, the former NYPD captain, argued police officers should resume enforcing quality of life crimes such as graffiti and pushed a tough-on-crime message that helped him connect with voters in the outer boroughs. In Manhattan, home to progressive elites, Bragg vowed to pull back on prosecutions — even reducing some felony charges, including commercial robberies.

 

A month into their terms, the moderate Democratic mayor has received bipartisan praise for his handling of the city’s spiraling crime crisis while Bragg, the former chief deputy attorney general of New York, drew blame for his progressive policies — from conservatives, some Democrats and even the widow of a slain NYPD officer.

 

Bragg, pressured by Adams in public and private, has now walked back some of his most controversial campaign plans.

 

 

 

[Twinblade★ 3,899]

1 minute ago, Goukosan said:

 

Your posting an article from more than 6 months, in reference to him supporting a January 2022 memo? How stupid are you? 

 

Spoiler alert. 

 

Adams did not support Braggs new memo like you claimed you lying sack of shit

 

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/08/eric-adams-outmaneuvered-district-attorney-00006296

 

How Eric Adams outmaneuvered Manhattan’s progressive district attorney

Adams, the former NYPD captain, argued police officers should resume enforcing quality of life crimes such as graffiti and pushed a tough-on-crime message that helped him connect with voters in the outer boroughs. In Manhattan, home to progressive elites, Bragg vowed to pull back on prosecutions — even reducing some felony charges, including commercial robberies.

 

A month into their terms, the moderate Democratic mayor has received bipartisan praise for his handling of the city’s spiraling crime crisis while Bragg, the former chief deputy attorney general of New York, drew blame for his progressive policies — from conservatives, some Democrats and even the widow of a slain NYPD officer.

 

Bragg, pressured by Adams in public and private, has now walked back some of his most controversial campaign plans.

 

 

 

 
I didn’t lie about anything. Adams clearly knew what brag’s plans were before the election despite that not being public knowledge. He is backtracking now because of the backlash, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t originally support those pathetic attempts at criminal justice reform.

[Goukosan 2,250]

57 minutes ago, Twinblade said:

 
I didn’t lie about anything. Adams clearly knew what brag’s plans were before the election despite that not being public knowledge. He is backtracking now because of the backlash, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t originally support those pathetic attempts at criminal justice reform.

You did lie, you claimed he supported the memo and he did not... Straight up lying scum

[Twinblade★ 3,899]

10 hours ago, Goukosan said:

You did lie, you claimed he supported the memo and he did not... Straight up lying scum

 

Maybe not the memo specifically, but he supported the DA's soft on crime policies earlier than that so is there really much of a difference?

[Goukosan 2,250]

4 hours ago, Twinblade said:

 

Maybe not the memo specifically, but he supported the DA's soft on crime policies earlier than that so is there really much of a difference?

 

Maybe but the memo? Lmfao.... Yes there is a difference. 

 

And No Eric Adams never supported being soft on crime, his entire platform he ran on was the opposite of that.  You would know that if you read beyond a sensationalized headline and actually sourced the information you consume. 

[Mr. Impossible 407]

5 hours ago, Twinblade said:

 

Maybe not the memo specifically, but he supported the DA's soft on crime policies earlier than that so is there really much of a difference?

Jesus Christ dude, just admit you were wrong and shit. Like this isn't that big of a deal. You read a couple headlines and thought you knew what you were talking about. Like you were reduced to making shit up about maybe someone hearing something at a lunch last month and it doesn't seem like you have anything to back up your point since then. You should be used to this by now.