madmaltese★ 2,549 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Why Sony remain kings. While Nintendo and MS churn out the same things year after year. Oh another Pokemon this year! Mario sports title? No way! Whattt Forza coming out this year? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 I would assume most of that new IP will be the live service games. Not that that takes anything away from the point. Sony is rightly, and smartly, diversifying their lineup. They were sorely lacking MP driven service games, and they look to be addressing that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TLHBO 2,158 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Meanwhile lemmings still waiting on more Halo and Forza Two dead and tired ~20 year old franchises. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twinblade★ 3,891 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 Ehh, people think games like Elden Ring are new IPs even though they’re built on very tried and true templates. The term new IP doesnt have the impact nowadays as it used to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sugarhigh 519 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 This is why I love Playstation, can can never go 100% hermit. By far the most risk-taking of the big publishers, and it pays off more often than not. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 11 hours ago, madmaltese said: Why Sony remain kings. While Nintendo and MS churn out the same things year after year. Oh another Pokemon this year! Mario sports title? No way! Whattt Forza coming out this year? That's by 2025, 3 years from now they'll be investing in it. The results from that investment won't be seen for a few more yeard after that. In between that you will get the same IPs from Sony as last gen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sugarhigh 519 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Goukosan said: That's by 2025, 3 years from now they'll be investing in it. The results from that investment won't be seen for a few more yeard after that. In between that you will get the same IPs from Sony as last gen. Last gen we got Bloodborne, Last Guardian, Horizon Zero Dawn, Death Stranding, Days Gone, Dreams, Ghosts of Tsushima, and Spiderman. And those are just the hits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 minute ago, sugarhigh said: Last gen we got Bloodborne, Last Guardian, Horizon Zero Dawn, Death Stranding, Days Gone, Dreams, Ghosts of Tsushima, and Spiderman. And those are just the hits. Bloodborne isn't a new IP... That's Souls game. Death Stranding isn't a Sony game. Spiderman as an IP is older than all of us. You're confusing new games to mean new IPs... Lol Of course Sony will have tons of new games this isn't Microsoft... Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sugarhigh 519 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Goukosan said: Bloodborne isn't a new IP... That's Souls game. Death Stranding isn't a Sony game. Spiderman as an IP is older than all of us. You're confusing new games to mean new IPs... Lol Of course Sony will have tons of new games this isn't Microsoft... Lol Bloodborne is a new IP Death Stranding is a Sony game Spiderman 2018 is a new videogame franchise. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, sugarhigh said: Bloodborne is a new IP Death Stranding is a Sony game Spiderman 2018 is a new videogame franchise. So you're counting new games under old IPs (Bloodborne and Spiderman) as new IPs... Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,549 Posted May 27, 2022 Author Share Posted May 27, 2022 6 hours ago, Goukosan said: That's by 2025, 3 years from now they'll be investing in it. The results from that investment won't be seen for a few more yeard after that. In between that you will get the same IPs from Sony as last gen. Are you ignoring the fact that it's already at 34%? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sugarhigh 519 Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Goukosan said: So you're counting new games under old IPs (Bloodborne and Spiderman) as new IPs... Lol Just like the Arkham games were. Bloodborne isn't even a question. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 hours ago, madmaltese said: Are you ignoring the fact that it's already at 34%? The thread title speaks to the 50% number.... Im responding to that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 2 hours ago, sugarhigh said: Just like the Arkham games were. Bloodborne isn't even a question. Again.. New games within an old IP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tears of the Cows 1,206 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 PS5 has no games. None. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sugarhigh 519 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Goukosan said: Again.. New games within an old IP. this is like saying the Dune strategy game in early access is a 50 year old franchise. Edited May 28, 2022 by sugarhigh 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. House 3,371 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 @Goukosan Cuckosan, you're a dumb prick. What are you even debating here? I would never deny the fact that Bloodborne was pretty much just another Dark Souls game with a new aesthetic, new gimmicks and very familiar gameplay. It's still technically a new intellectual property for From Software though. They had to trademark Bloodborne with a new publisher under Sony. If your customer is uninformed, he might not even know it's from the same studio than the one behind Dark Souls, it doesn't even have the same brand recognition, it doesn't even share the same title in any way. It's a new IP, just not a very original one. And Spider-Man might be a licensed IP but it's is very much a new IP within Sony first party games line-up if you want to get technical. It even had a direct sequel. It would be really dumb to treat this as just another entry in the long running Spider-Man video game series because no such thing actually exists. It's part of a really old comic books license that hadn't a game in decades and as far as I know, this is Sony/Insomniac first attempt at it. Why would anyone try to downplay it for those reasons? ''Oh, it's not a new game!!!'' Fuck off, go play Kirby 45. You stupid fgt. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voidler 1,675 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Technically something like Spiderman isn't a new IP, it is a licensed IP. And it definitely doesn't carry the same risk factor as creating a new IP does Bloodborne is 100% a new IP though. Having some design elements in common with their other games doesn't prevent that. It'd be like saying TLOU wasn't a new IP cause it had design elements in common with Uncharted, or Portal isn't a new IP cause it has elements of Half Life Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 56 minutes ago, Ramza said: @Goukosan Cuckosan, you're a dumb prick. What are you even debating here? I would never deny the fact that Bloodborne was pretty much just another Dark Souls game with a new aesthetic, new gimmicks and very familiar gameplay. It's still technically a new intellectual property for From Software though. They had to trademark Bloodborne with a new publisher under Sony. If your customer is uninformed, he might not even know it's from the same studio than the one behind Dark Souls, it doesn't even have the same brand recognition, it doesn't even share the same title in any way. It's a new IP, just not a very original one. And Spider-Man might be a licensed IP but it's is very much a new IP within Sony first party games line-up if you want to get technical. It even had a direct sequel. It would be really dumb to treat this as just another entry in the long running Spider-Man video game series because no such thing actually exists. It's part of a really old comic books license that hadn't a game in decades and as far as I know, this is Sony/Insomniac first attempt at it. Why would anyone try to downplay it for those reasons? ''Oh, it's not a new game!!!'' Fuck off, go play Kirby 45. You stupid fgt. 57 minutes ago, Ramza said: @Goukosan Cuckosan, you're a dumb prick. What are you even debating here? I would never deny the fact that Bloodborne was pretty much just another Dark Souls game with a new aesthetic, new gimmicks and very familiar gameplay. It's still technically a new intellectual property for From Software though. They had to trademark Bloodborne with a new publisher under Sony. If your customer is uninformed, he might not even know it's from the same studio than the one behind Dark Souls, it doesn't even have the same brand recognition, it doesn't even share the same title in any way. It's a new IP, just not a very original one. And Spider-Man might be a licensed IP but it's is very much a new IP within Sony first party games line-up if you want to get technical. It even had a direct sequel. It would be really dumb to treat this as just another entry in the long running Spider-Man video game series because no such thing actually exists. It's part of a really old comic books license that hadn't a game in decades and as far as I know, this is Sony/Insomniac first attempt at it. Why would anyone try to downplay it for those reasons? ''Oh, it's not a new game!!!'' Fuck off, go play Kirby 45. You stupid fgt. On 2022-05-27 at 5:18 PM, Goukosan said: So you're counting new games under old IPs (Bloodborne and Spiderman) as new IPs... Lol 23 hours ago, Goukosan said: Again.. New games within an old IP. I see reading is hard for your dumbass. IP is intellectual Property. Spiderman 2018 is a NEW game but it's not a new IP you slow fuck. Sony is talking about new IPs like Horizon which was a new IP when it launched last gen and games like Ghosts of Tushima... Which again was a new IP when it launched. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 19 hours ago, sugarhigh said: this is like saying the Dune strategy game in early access is a 50 year old franchise. First you were conflating new game to mean new IP (even if it's an old IP) and now you're conflating franchise to mean IP. But for your example.. If that's the first game in the Dune strategy series then it's the first game in the Dune strategy franchise and is also a new game. But the Dune IP itself is 50 years old. Can't believe you don't know tje difference between the three... Pathetic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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