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Digital Foundry Panel calls out Microsoft for false marketing with Forza 8 and Forza Horizon 5 (TLHBFR!!!)


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:mj:   TLHBFR!

 

 

 

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Lemij and the other salty lems were putting up a fight arguing that Forza gameplay we were shown was real and running on the Series L. Turns out the whole thing was faked deceptive marketing targeting gullible lems  :cruise:

 

:mroff: Lemij was arguing with me yesterday and now we have DF confirming that both trailers for Fartza 8 were deceptive and not only that but Fartza Horizon 5 DLC trailer was also fake as well!

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Jesus christ dude.. lmfao.  There was a gameplay trailer... and a replay trailer.

 

Neither trailer was deceptive... lmfao.  That's what the game looks like...

 

LOL even Richard says "duh... no shit replays will look better. "

 

Alex is wrong on this one...  Racing games have used replays for trailers for ages...  :shrug: 

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Just now, Remij said:

Jesus christ dude.. lmfao.  There was a gameplay trailer... and a replay trailer.

 

Neither trailer was deceptive... lmfao.  That's what the game looks like...

 

LOL even Richard says "duh... no shit replays will look better. "

 

Alex is wrong on this one...  Racing games have used replays for trailers for ages...  :shrug: 

Digital Foundry is saying it was deceptive marketing buddy.

 

I trust them over a biased lem like you :lebron:

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6 minutes ago, FIREPOWER said:

Digital Foundry is saying it was deceptive marketing buddy.

 

I trust them over a biased lem like you :lebron:

Well you're free to think what you want... but just know that as all this is happening, it's just confirming to me one thing.... that Forza looks so good that you're skeptical about it :geese: 

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1 hour ago, Remij said:

Well you're free to think what you want... but just know that as all this is happening, it's just confirming to me one thing.... that Forza looks so good that you're skeptical about it :geese: 

Of course Forza looks good, it’s always looked good but not better than GT7. The fact MS had to use fake gameplay confirms they are intimidated by GT7 and knew they couldn’t compete with it without faking  their “gameplay” footage  :mroff:

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6 minutes ago, FIREPOWER said:

If course Forza looks good, it’s always looked good but not better than GT7. The fact MS had to use fake gameplay confirms they are intimidated by GT7 and knew they couldn’t compete with it without faking  their “gameplay” footage  :mroff:

It looks far better than GT7 :Jeff:

 

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1 minute ago, Remij said:

It looks far better than GT7 :Jeff:

 

Turn 10 doesn’t seem to think so and that’s why they had to resort to cheating with fake gameplay. If they truly felt confident it looked better than GT7 they’d show off raw gameplay with no cheap tricks like PD does :mjgrin:

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3 minutes ago, FIREPOWER said:

Turn 10 doesn’t seem to think so and that’s why they had to resort to cheating with fake gameplay. If they truly felt confident it looked better than GT7 they’d show off raw gameplay with no cheap tricks like PD does :mjgrin:

GT7's trailers are mostly replays.. lmfao.

 

Turn10 is making GT7 look last gen as fuck :hest: 

 

DF can't believe it... :geese: 

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10 minutes ago, Voidler said:

It kinda looks ass, RT is a waste of resources

 

Forza Horizon devs were smart to not bother with RT and put that computation into other aspects

Yup, the sacrifices made for RT during gameplay aren’t worth it in my opinion. The image quality and resolution suffer for a feature no one will notice when they are driving at 180mph so that MS can put in a marketing bullet point.

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1 minute ago, Remij said:

GT7's trailers are mostly replays.. lmfao.

 

Turn10 is making GT7 look last gen as fuck :hest: 

 

DF can't believe it... :geese: 

GT7’s marketing was mostly gameplay and there were analyzed heavily by DF who found them to be very impressive.

 

Turn 10 couldn’t  deal with the pressure of competing with PD and had to resort to cheap tricks only to get owned by DF :mj:

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1 minute ago, FIREPOWER said:

Yup, the sacrifices made for RT during gameplay aren’t worth it in my opinion. The image quality and resolution suffer for a feature no one will notice when they are driving at 180mph so that MS can put in a marketing bullet point.

LOL what sacrifices?  The environments look 3x better than anything in GT7.. and the cars look far better too...

 

Just because GT7 doesn't have RT during gameplay doesn't mean it's a waste breh... it's ok to admit that :geese: 

 

(cows were sure laying it on when they thought GT7 was going to have RT during the races when FH5 didn't..  :hehe: 

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Just now, Remij said:

LOL what sacrifices?  The environments look 3x better than anything in GT7.. and the cars look far better too...

 

Just because GT7 doesn't have RT during gameplay doesn't mean it's a waste breh... it's ok to admit that :geese: 

 

(cows were sure laying it on when they thought GT7 was going to have RT during the races when FH5 didn't..  :hehe: 

Worse AA than FM7 and 1080p reconstruction to 4K instead of Native 4K are the sacrifices. The image quality has been obviously downgraded and DF shows this in their analysis of the latest “gameplay” :mj:

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1 minute ago, FIREPOWER said:

Worse AA than FM7 and 1080p reconstruction to 4K instead of Native 4K are the sacrifices. The image quality has been obviously downgraded and DF shows this in their analysis of the latest “gameplay” :mj:

:hest: 

 

The DF comparisons to GT7 are going to be glorious :blessed: 

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3 hours ago, Voidler said:

It kinda looks ass, RT is a waste of resources

 

Forza Horizon devs were smart to not bother with RT and put that computation into other aspects

It's gonna be weird if basically no big budget AAA can actually use the RT hardware in next gen consoles. We could be in a situation where those units are mainly used for realistic sound simulations rather than rays of light.

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It's gonna be weird if basically no big budget AAA can actually use the RT hardware in next gen consoles. We could be in a situation where those units are mainly used for realistic sound simulations rather than rays of light.

We already have Ratchet and Clank and  both Spiderman games using RT in real-time at 60fps on PS5.

 

Thank goodness for Sony devs like Insomniac leading the way otherwise RT this gen would have been a total bust on consoles.

 

It's a scam on Xbox however. We are yet to see an actual AAA MS first party game utilize RT. Forza was pretending to have it on Xbox before DF exposed Turn 10 :mj:

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