bhytre 2,753 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 TSHBR Why so outdated sheep? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cooke 2,026 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 its aged like Tom Cruise Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sugarhigh 519 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 It was smart to narrow down to one platform after the sketchy launch of 3DS and the sketchy life of WiiU. Switch is the best Nintendo system since N64 and still sucks in a lot of ways. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,227 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Xbox Series came out less than 24 months ago, and it has no games, and we're now hearing that developers don't want to develop for it. What happened? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, jehurey said: Xbox Series came out less than 24 months ago, and it has no games, and we're now hearing that developers don't want to develop for it. What happened? Honestly, I was thinking at work earlier last week... it's pretty sad that we're 2 years into the gen and none of these games are out yet: Forza Motorsport Hellblade 2 Perfect Dark Fable No Starfield yet either It's been a fucking wasteland... No games using mesh shaders, or sampler feedback streaming... No Xbox games with sick ray tracing features... No Minecraft RT for Xbox yet... shit was cancelled.. Like jesus christ... What's going on with The Coalition's game? Let's see it. How about new things? Literally nothing for 2 years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, Remij said: Honestly, I was thinking at work earlier last week... it's pretty sad that we're 2 years into the gen and none of these games are out yet: Forza Motorsport Hellblade 2 Perfect Dark Fable No Starfield yet either It's been a fucking wasteland... No games using mesh shaders, or sampler feedback streaming... No Xbox games with sick ray tracing features... No Minecraft RT for Xbox yet... shit was cancelled.. Like jesus christ... What's going on with The Coalition's game? Let's see it. How about new things? Literally nothing for 2 years And what is going to happen is.. When those games do come.. They will disappoint because expectations will be so high because of drought of games from MS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,670 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Goukosan said: And what is going to happen is.. When those games do come.. They will disappoint because expectations will be so high because of drought of games from MS. No, the expectations wont be high because of a drought of games from MS... they will be high because by then Sony will have started their ACTUAL next gen output... Once Spider-Man 2 hits... which I'm going to consider Sony's first true next gen game... it's going to make most of these games look positively last gen... I think Spider-Man 2 is going to blow away everything else when it releases. The only studio I can see from MS coming anywhere close is The Coalition. I'm sure Fable will look nice, and Hellblade 2 will look amazing, but it will still be a smaller in scope game I bet. I would love to be wrong about it... but once Sony starts getting these PS5 only next gen games out.. it's going to make MS' job a lot harder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,249 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Remij said: No, the expectations wont be high because of a drought of games from MS... they will be high because by then Sony will have started their ACTUAL next gen output... Once Spider-Man 2 hits... which I'm going to consider Sony's first true next gen game... it's going to make most of these games look positively last gen... I think Spider-Man 2 is going to blow away everything else when it releases. The only studio I can see from MS coming anywhere close is The Coalition. I'm sure Fable will look nice, and Hellblade 2 will look amazing, but it will still be a smaller in scope game I bet. I would love to be wrong about it... but once Sony starts getting these PS5 only next gen games out.. it's going to make MS' job a lot harder. Ratchet was Sony's first next gen game.... But I agree with everything else. MS will be playing catch up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
z,warrior 155 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 and another 6 more years to go, TLHBFR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 7,729 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 12 hours ago, Goukosan said: Ratchet was Sony's first next gen game.... But I agree with everything else. MS will be playing catch up. Yeah, visually, ratchet is still unmatched. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ike★ 2,906 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 My theory is Nintendo planned to release a more powerful Switch along with the OLED screen but COVID and the worldwide chip shortage put them behind schedule. Guessing a new one next holiday with the new mainline Mario at launch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. House 3,371 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ike said: My theory is Nintendo planned to release a more powerful Switch along with the OLED screen but COVID and the worldwide chip shortage put them behind schedule. Guessing a new one next holiday with the new mainline Mario at launch. How much of an upgrade its going to be is what I want to know. Like is it even going to significantly outperform the steam deck? They're gonna aim for a low-price range. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,227 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 46 minutes ago, Ramza said: How much of an upgrade its going to be is what I want to know. Like is it even going to significantly outperform the steam deck? They're gonna aim for a low-price range. Well, this is where I'm kinda glad that nvidia roped Nintendo back in 2016/2017. Nvidia has no "older" GPU architecture being manufactured. I think the oldest architecture they would still manufacture is Ampere-based. So Nintendo doesn't really have an option. However, nvidia may be trying to price their shit too high, because of the recent two years of in-demand inflation of their video cards, they may telling Nintendo "we need to be charging you at the same rate, per graphics core, as we are with our bigger GPUs." And Nintendo may be trying to push back against that. May be why they decided to hold off on the Switch 2. But nvidia has Nintendo locked into their hardware, into their development tools. Nintendo would have to rebuild from scratch, at this point, if they decide to leave nvidia. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ike★ 2,906 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 hours ago, jehurey said: Well, this is where I'm kinda glad that nvidia roped Nintendo back in 2016/2017. Nvidia has no "older" GPU architecture being manufactured. I think the oldest architecture they would still manufacture is Ampere-based. So Nintendo doesn't really have an option. However, nvidia may be trying to price their shit too high, because of the recent two years of in-demand inflation of their video cards, they may telling Nintendo "we need to be charging you at the same rate, per graphics core, as we are with our bigger GPUs." And Nintendo may be trying to push back against that. May be why they decided to hold off on the Switch 2. But nvidia has Nintendo locked into their hardware, into their development tools. Nintendo would have to rebuild from scratch, at this point, if they decide to leave nvidia. The carpet being pulled too on most 3000 series cards. Probably could see 3060 type performance which would be more than fine for hybrid console doing 1080p. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,227 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 56 minutes ago, Ike said: The carpet being pulled too on most 3000 series cards. Probably could see 3060 type performance which would be more than fine for hybrid console doing 1080p. I'd probably say something along the lines of a 3050, if one existed. Or just below 3060. But hopefully, every newest iterations of DLSS and newest tensor core so that they could also do frame generation. And if they were smart, just make the damn OLED or LCD screen work with built in VRR at all times. With Low-Framerate Compensation to help assist OLED whenever VRR drops into lower framerates. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. House 3,371 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, jehurey said: I'd probably say something along the lines of a 3050, if one existed. Or just below 3060. But hopefully, every newest iterations of DLSS and newest tensor core so that they could also do frame generation. And if they were smart, just make the damn OLED or LCD screen work with built in VRR at all times. With Low-Framerate Compensation to help assist OLED whenever VRR drops into lower framerates. No way a portable GPU in a handheld gets close to a 3060 or ''3050''. Or I'm grossly overestimating what a 3060 can do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alphonse★ 453 Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Ramza said: No way a portable GPU in a handheld gets close to a 3060 or ''3050''. Or I'm grossly overestimating what a 3060 can do. no way. I can see it doing good 1080 fidelity with dlss 2/3 but 3060 level performance nah. steamdeck is not even there and that shit huge 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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