DF reviews RE4 Remake: Worst on Ps5 (Absolute Cow SLAUGHTER) UP: PS5 version looks like 720p, unplayable in res mode due to stutter, constant light flickers, DEADZONE issues UPDATE: Jerry admits he is living with autism, TLHBO hasn’t gamed since 2003

[jehurey 3,227]

1 hour ago, Substatic said:

 

 

 

 

2. 4080 and 4090 are getting 90-120 frames

 

So its not 2-3x framerate

 

Thanks for admitting that I caught you lying.

 

And its DLSS, so its not natively rendering.

 

And you are talking about having to own a 4080/4090

 

You thought that was going to make you look good?

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1 hour ago, jehurey said:

So its not 2-3x framerate

 

 

How is ~90-120 not 2-3x of 40~. Lmao wtf 1st grade math fail!?

 

So it runs two to three times better and looks SUBSTANTIALLY better. This isn't even a debate. Dude, wtf? 

 

1 hour ago, jehurey said:

 

 

And you are talking about having to own a 4080/4090

 

 

So? I own a 4080. I'm always going to revert to the high end when comparing multiplats. We've done this since GS:SW.

[jehurey 3,227]

4 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

How is ~90-120 not 2-3x of 40

he continually lies

 

and i continually catch him lying

 

4 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

and looks SUBSTANTIALLY better.

No it doesn't

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Alex Battaglia:

"another issue with the graphical options is a long-standing one for RE engine games, and that is image quality. Just like the demo, and nearly every other RE engine released in the last 5 years, image quality on the PC is not very good. TAA essentially does not seem to apply very well, and the game has an untweakable sharpening filter that is forced at all times. With the camera sitting still, you can see things like vegetation crawling and edges shimmering incessantly, on top of having a kinda posterized look due to all the extra sharpening. Interlaced mode as a result is completely unusable as it looks incredibly awful due to an overbearing sharpening there and the TAA even applying worse. Basically, it looks like there's no anti-aliasing at all when you turn on the interlacing mode so it's completely unusable. Unfortunately, the other options they have added do nothing to help the situation."

I love how you keep on pretending that you don't know this, and hope that its going to work

 

Its not going to work with me.

 

5 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

So? I own a 4080.

No, your argument is "PC version" FOR PCs are the best.

 

Not your unique "magical" PC

 

Thanks for backtracking from your universal claim.

 

Pay over 4x the price to get 2x the performance..............wow, what a boast!

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56 minutes ago, jehurey said:

he continually lies

 

 

~40fps vs ~90-120fps.....😐

 

 

 

56 minutes ago, jehurey said:

 

I love how you keep on pretending that you don't know this, and hope that its going to work

 

 

 

That video isn't comparing it to consoles. The DF video in the Ghostz original post does. The PC version straight up looks substantially better while running at 2-3x the FPS.

 

It's literally best on PC and a great example of best on PC. Just like SM and MM. This isn't debatable for these 3 games.....

 

56 minutes ago, jehurey said:

 

Thanks for backtracking from your universal claim.

 

 

I always discuss high end PCs when discussing SW stuff. Any time we're comparing multiplats I consider high end, it's been like this since GS.

 

 

 

Edited March 30, 2023 by Substatic

[jehurey 3,227]

48 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

~40fps

 

 

 

No........the game runs at 50-60 fps

 

You just continue lying, over and over

 

Its not going to work.

 

49 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

 

 

 

That video isn't comparing it to consoles.

 

his statement isn't in relation to consoles.

 

He says its "not good" in general

 

There's nothing you can say that changes that.

 

50 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

Just like SM and MM. This isn't debatable for these 3 games.....

 

I already won that debate.

 

Spiderman and Miles Morales have LOWER than PS5 settings, when Alex recommended them

 

And we KNOW there's stuttering.

 

This isn't up for debate

 

51 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

I always discuss high end PCs

 

 

 

Dat Backtrack

 

And it basically renders your irrelevant, because you're trying to boast about spending 4x more money, to get 2x more performance

 

...........for games that STILL have issues

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26 minutes ago, jehurey said:

No........the game runs at 50-60 fps

 

 

Dipping to 50's IN FPS MODE 🤣, something PC would do at 140+. RESOLUTION MODE regularly goes to low 40s, which PC gets 90-120.

 

Here PS5 trying it's best to match 4K PC (and still not coming CLOSE going by DF video in page 1)  :

 

 

 

 

 

26 minutes ago, jehurey said:

 

 

Dat Backtrack

 

 

 

What system is RE4 best on? Say it.

 

Edited March 31, 2023 by Substatic

[jehurey 3,227]

5 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

Dipping to 50's IN FPS MODE

 

 

so you're wrong.

 

thanks for admitting

 

6 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

What system is RE4 best on? Say it.

 

 

the one in which is going to get a VR mode update from Capcom, obviously

 

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13 minutes ago, jehurey said:

so you're wrong.

 

 

 

40 vs 90-120fps - Resolution mode for both systems. PC version looks substantially better as well (as per DF).

50 vs  140-160fps - FPS mode for both systems. PC version looks substantially better as well (as per DF).

 

 

What system is RE4 best on? Say it.

 

[jehurey 3,227]

4 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

40 vs 90-120fps - Resolution mode for both systems.

 

 

 

Nope you target the higher end of your framerate

 

therefore it gets compared to the higher framerate from the consoles

 

50 to 60

 

Notice how easy it is to point out your hypocrisy???????

 

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PC version looks substantially better as well (as per DF).

No, once again:

 

Quote

Alex Battaglia:

"another issue with the graphical options is a long-standing one for RE engine games, and that is image quality. Just like the demo, and nearly every other RE engine released in the last 5 years, image quality on the PC is not very good. TAA essentially does not seem to apply very well, and the game has an untweakable sharpening filter that is forced at all times. With the camera sitting still, you can see things like vegetation crawling and edges shimmering incessantly, on top of having a kinda posterized look due to all the extra sharpening. Interlaced mode as a result is completely unusable as it looks incredibly awful due to an overbearing sharpening there and the TAA even applying worse. Basically, it looks like there's no anti-aliasing at all when you turn on the interlacing mode so it's completely unusable. Unfortunately, the other options they have added do nothing to help the situation."

There's nothing you can say about that.

 

Image quality is not very good.
 

and the best version, easily, is going to be the PS5 version which is getting a VR mode direct from Capcom

 

wasn't that hard of a question to answer, actually

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23 minutes ago, jehurey said:

 

 

Image quality is not very good.

 

 

That's just the PC-only video. Ghostz posted the video that compares PC and Console, they explicitly show how the PC version looks substantially better. And that's without the mod that fixes TAA.

By the way, that PC-only video states,

 

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That means you can expect better-than-console performance and image quality

 

 

24 minutes ago, jehurey said:

Nope you target the higher end of your framerate

 

 

Then PC's higher end isn't 120fps either. I'm comparing 4K to 4K, or FPS mode to FPS mode, for each system. On each mode, PC has two-three times the frame rate. While looking significantly better.

 

 

What system is RE4 best on? Say it.

 

[jehurey 3,227]

1 minute ago, Substatic said:

 

That's just the PC-only video

No, he said it as a general statement.

 

foilage shimmering is not good.............at all

 

don't need to compare it to anything to know that its a visual failure.

 

2 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

And that's without the mod that fixes TAA.

 

 

No

 

1.) It doesn't actually fix it, because he literally shows you visual imperfections with it running

 

and

 

2.) he makes it very clear that it is a completely unacceptable solution

 

its not going to excuse the state of the game, as is.

 

3 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

. On each mode, PC has two-three times the frame rate.

 

 

No, it doesn't.  Not 3x the performance

 

And you have to spend close to 4x the amount of money to get 2x the amount of performance.

 

Which already makes your entire declation about PC gaming, moot.

 

I love how..........you simply cannot get out of this. You will never be able to run away from any of these simple facts.

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5 minutes ago, jehurey said:

No, it doesn't.  Not 3x the performance

 

Nope. 2-3x depending on the settings/resolution. 

 

40~ fps vs 90-120fps in 4K mode for both.

50-60~ fps vs 140-160fps for FPS mode for both

 

But I'm going to be real, I might go back to UW (3440x1440p) after using 4K for a year. I honestly noticed the massive increase in fps (140fps+ in most games) far more than the increase in resolution. The only thing that might put me off is if a very good 4k miniLED comes out in 2024.

 

5 minutes ago, jehurey said:

No, he said it as a general statement.

 

 

That same video:

 

 

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That means you can expect better-than-console performance and image quality

 

 

That's a check mate and not even getting into each setting breakdown in Ghostz video which explicitly shows why.

 

Fact: Best on PC. For the 1 or 2 retards on this entire planet who might have thought otherwise for RE4.

Edited March 31, 2023 by Substatic

[jehurey 3,227]

2 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

Nope. 2-3x depending on the settings/resolution. 

 

40~ fps

No, the highest framerate available, since that is what you are doing.

 

50-60fps

 

SO.......no.............no 3x at all

 

And you paid 4x the cost to get roughly 2x the performance, which just renders your entire argument moot, and laughable.

 

7 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

 

 

That same video:

 

and they say that image is "not good" in that same video. No qualificiations

 

There's really nothing you can say that changes that.

9 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

 

That's a check mate

Nope it isn't. You'd like to think it was..

 

Its hilarious how you've completely shrunken your claims

 

From all PC games.

 

To you losing Horizon Zero Dawn

To you losing SM/MM

 

And you were left with RE4, and you thought THAT WAS UNTOUCHABLE

 

.......until Twinblade came in and popped that balloon.

 

You've lost so much in the past 3 nights.

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4 minutes ago, jehurey said:

 

 No qualificiations

 

 

 

 

Uh huh,

 

Quote

That means you can expect better-than-console performance and image quality

 

RE4. Best on PC. Not even Jerry will deny this fact.

 

5 minutes ago, jehurey said:

To you losing SM/MM

 

 

What, Spider-Man and Miles Morales are currently best on PC....we ended it on that fact. It runs and looks far better.

 

 

 

What's with the lying?

[jehurey 3,227]

19 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

Uh huh,

 

That's correct. He said it is "not good" with no relation to anything except for his judgement of the image.

 

In what world do you think "shimmering foilage" when you stop and stare at the video footage.............is considered good on any level?

 

20 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

RE4. Best on PC. Not even Jerry will deny this fact.

 

No, it has issues, same as every other version. And the most obvious is that its image quality is "not good" according to Alex Battaglia.

 

21 minutes ago, Substatic said:

What, Spider-Man and Miles Morales are currently best on PC....we ended it on that fact. It runs and looks far better.

No, Alex Battaglia literally recommends to set the game to BELOW PS5 settings.

 

And we KNOW it has stuttering.

 

 

Stuttering makes it impossible for it to be the better.

 

22 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

What's with the lying?

I don't lie.

 

You lie.

 

I prove everything I say with evidence and REMAIN CONSISTENT

 

I've caught you lying

I've caught you not providing any evidence

I've caught you constantly moving goalposts and not being consistent.

 

You've been losing for three straight nights............I know this because look how angry you are and continually come back day after day after you've lost the previous day.

 

Its not my fault I catch you lying. Maybe you should stop actually lying.

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31 minutes ago, jehurey said:

 

 

You've been losing for three straight nights.......... 

 

You're just trying to get the last post in and trick people at this forum.......

 

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That means you can expect better-than-console performance and image quality

 

 

RE4, MM, and SM are objectively best on PC. There is no refuting this fact.

[jehurey 3,227]

35 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

You're just trying

you're not even responding to the points that I am making, since you know I've caught you mis-representing and omitting information multiple times at this point.

 

I am winning my arguments against you because of you constantly getting caught lying and mis-representing things.

 

You have nothing left except ad hominem attacks at this point. Case-in-point.

36 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

RE4, MM, and SM are objectively best on PC. There is no refuting this fact.

No they are not.

 

SM and MM are recommended to play at LESS THAN PS5 settings, and we know that there's stutter.

 

That effectively does NOT make them best on PC.

 

And my copy of RE4 on the PS5 is going to be playable in VR.............so, no, you can't even win that argument.

There's really nothing you can say, because you've already ran away from the evidence I've provided you with SM/MM............so you've lost.

 

And RE4 on PS5 having VR, direct from Capcom............well, that's just a fact. There's nothing you can do about that.

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11 minutes ago, jehurey said:

 

 

I am winning my arguments against you because  

 

They outright say RE4 is better on PC.....

 

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That means you can expect better-than-console performance and image quality

 

Dude. It's running at anywhere from two to three times the FPS and looks much better. 

 

Why are we debating this.

 

11 minutes ago, jehurey said:

 

 

SM and MM are recommended to play at LESS THAN PS5 settings,

 

 

THAT was just optimized settings FOR THE RTX 2070, specifically. I have a RTX 4080.

 

TROLL.

 

11 minutes ago, jehurey said:

and we know that there's stutter.

 

 

Digital Foundry literally used SM and MM as examples of PC games that don't stutter, and called it an "amazing" port. They literally even said "bravo" to Nixxies....

 

Digital Foundry outright  and explicitly disagrees with you on all 3 games. VERBATIM.

 

 

At this point you're just trying to trick 1 or 2 posters here who have a low enough IQ to believe your lies. 

Edited March 31, 2023 by Substatic

[jehurey 3,227]

4 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

They outright say RE4 is better on PC.....

 

They say it could. But they also say it has issues.

 

And the version that has a VR mode will be better........that is clearly out of Digital Foundry's purview.

 

You don't get to pretend that piece of information..........FACTUAL information, doesn't exist.

 

The PS5 version with Capcom adding a VR mode will easily be the best version. There's nothing you can say to debunk that.

 

5 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

Dude. It's running at anywhere from two to three times the FPS and looks much better. 

 

Why are we debating this.

 

because it really isn't 3x better, and you've been caught mis-leading and exaggerating.

 

And its pretty much hilarious that you try to boast about 2x performance for something you spent 4x the money on.

 

You don't like me pointing that out.

6 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

 

 

THAT was just optimized settings FOR THE RTX 2070, specifically. I have a RTX 4080.

 

 

yet we know SM/MM stutters.

 

We KNOW this

 

You can't DENY this

This is a verifiable fact

 

You are also not credible, because you claim your computer doesn't do this........yet you run away from proving it and putting your money where your mouth is.

 

You have no credibility.

 

Stutter and wild framerate fluctuations are present in SM/MM on PC

 

That makes it worse. Nobody would play a constantly stuttering game for 40 hours, over one that runs stable.

 

You simply can't say anything that changes this basic common sense.

 

9 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

Digital Foundry literally used SM and MM as examples of PC games that don't stutter

Except we know it stutters.

 

And we know that the only settings that Digital Foundy used to not get stutter were settings that had BELOW PS5 features.

 

10 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

 

Digital Foundry outright  and explicitly disagrees with you

No they don't, in fact they agree with me about the state of PC ports:

 

 

 

10 minutes ago, Substatic said:

 

 

 

 

At this point you're

Just beating you in every argument you've ever attempting

 

I don't mind choosing to win over you.

 

I like doing it............its quite satisfying shutting your down, and proving you wrong.

 

Over

 

and  over

 

and over

 

and over

 

Why wouldn't I enjoy winning? You attempt the same thing that I already proved wrong......so its pretty easy to just re-type the information that won me the argument the first time around.

 

Notice how my post INCLUDES EVIDENCE

 

And you never do any such thing?

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22 minutes ago, jehurey said:

They say it could.  

 

 

This is straight copy paste from their article....

 

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 That means you can expect better-than-console performance and image quality, but there are still improvements for Capcom to make -

 

If you don't believe the above, just watch Ghostz video. They explicitly go through each setting on PC, and explain how and why it looks better.

 

 

 

^PC shits over the PS5 version. Absolutely shits over it. All while running at significantly higher frames.

 

Which it was no surprise as to why Alex said it's better on PC in the follow up video.

 

22 minutes ago, jehurey said:

 

  BELOW PS5 features.

 

Filthy ass liar. They also tested the highest PC settings:

 

h

 

PC's max settings obliterate PS5 in graphics, as well as running at 2-3x the FPS (again). Right after testing max PC settings, they said:

 

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"AMAZING PC PORT"

 

"BRAVO TO NIXXIES"

 

 

Two months later, they use SM/MM as games which AVOID stuttering on an ENGINE LEVEL.  They never mention settings here.

 

 

You're literally citing videos and articles that directly disagree with you  verbatim in the hopes people don't read/watch them entirely.....lol?

 

You're like those anti-vaxxers who cited CDC Data....or climate deniers who cite NASA lol.....

Edited March 31, 2023 by Substatic