puertorock_papi 2 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 (edited) Super Computers contain hundreds to thousands of CPU's A 16 Core CPU in the 720 is completely plausible. It has infact been Reported. You mean a rumor has been reported. Unless MS recently released a press release? On top of that more info on the Blue Gene Q processor Whether the BGQ architecture is the end of the line for the Blue Gene franchise is an open question. As of today, there is no R system on the roadmap and IBM seems to be leaning toward a Power-architecture-only strategy for its custom supercomputing lineup. Even if IBM is able to repurpose the cores of other PowerPC architectures, designing and implementing a custom SoC for a single niche market, albeit a high-margin one, is an expensive proposition. http://www.hpcwire.com/hpcwire/2011-08-22/ibm_specs_out_blue_gene_q_chip.html Edited April 7, 2012 by puertorock_papi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Walter 7 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 So basically they reconfirm IGN's rumour about the GPU specs What a beast I suppose you might think that if you didn't know how to read. The IGN rumor said it would be based on AMD's 6000 series. This rumors states it will be based on AMD's 7000 series. The card mentioned by IGN is identical to the 7000 series GPU mentioned for PS3. And the fact that rumours for both systems are circulating that they are using dual GPU solutions makes it seem pretty evident that ATI is likely proposing the same or very similar GPUs for both next gen systems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Whipitcher Wild Goo 472 Posted April 7, 2012 Author Share Posted April 7, 2012 While they both share the same A2 architecture you're talking about a completely different CPU, even with a different number of cores. And then you're using an article from 2011 to try and convince yourself it would be too expensive years later in 2013 LOL Too expensive? No. Expensive? Maybe. The 720 is going to be a BEAST afterall Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Whipitcher Wild Goo 472 Posted April 7, 2012 Author Share Posted April 7, 2012 So basically they reconfirm IGN's rumour about the GPU specs What a beast I suppose you might think that if you didn't know how to read. The IGN rumor said it would be based on AMD's 6000 series. This rumors states it will be based on AMD's 7000 series. The card mentioned by IGN is identical to the 7000 series GPU mentioned for PS3. And the fact that rumours for both systems are circulating that they are using dual GPU solutions makes it seem pretty evident that ATI is likely proposing the same or very similar GPUs for both next gen systems. No you need to learn to read. Not all AMD 6000 and AMD 7000 are the same. Not even close. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Walter 7 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 (edited) So basically they reconfirm IGN's rumour about the GPU specs What a beast I suppose you might think that if you didn't know how to read. The IGN rumor said it would be based on AMD's 6000 series. This rumors states it will be based on AMD's 7000 series. The card mentioned by IGN is identical to the 7000 series GPU mentioned for PS3. And the fact that rumours for both systems are circulating that they are using dual GPU solutions makes it seem pretty evident that ATI is likely proposing the same or very similar GPUs for both next gen systems. No you need to learn to read. Not all AMD 6000 and AMD 7000 are the same. Not even close. Nobody said that What I'm saying is that the rumours have been saying that both systems have a 7000 GPU, both systems are going for dual GPU solutions and IGN says both are based on 6670 whether or not they come from the 7000 line. It's quite clear the rumours about 360's GPU are NOT stacking towards being a "BEAST" at all. The rumours are leaning towards them both offering the same somewhat average solution. Edited April 7, 2012 by Void Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScaryMovies 29 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Sucks that they aren't using Nvidia gpus Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SII Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Whipitcher Wild Goo 472 Posted April 7, 2012 Author Share Posted April 7, 2012 If you're going only by an old IGN rumor then no the 720 GPU isn't looking too powerful. Fortunately that old IGN rumor about 720 was never very credible and there are plenty of other sources which have something very different to say. Multiple sources have confirmed this morning that the machine will have two GPUs. We’re waiting for final confirmation of specs, but the graphics cards are thought to be equivalent to AMD’s 7000 series GPUs http://ht.ly/a1eSh The recent claim of the 720 having TWO 7000 series GPUs is completely different from the no doubt wrong claim from IGN about having only one 6670. And there is more. Samaritan's return was the only taste of the next-gen we'd be getting at this briefing, but Mark Rein made it obvious that this was the visual target for the new wave of consoles and there was a brief implication that the mystery NVIDIA Kepler card's performance would be matched by whatever the console platform holders are working on now. Rein himself would know: sources close to Epic have told us that the company is working on next-gen target hardware from Microsoft right now - one source has even gone so far as to say to us that Samaritan is already running on whatever kit is currently being used to simulate the new Xbox. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/digitalfoundry-unreal-engine-evolution A 6670 running Samiratan - Impossible. Two high end 7000's or an architecture based on them? Now we're talking Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Walter 7 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 PS4 is also rumoured to have two GPUs based on the 7000 series. The more these rumours come out, the more it sounds like AMD is offering Sony and MS the same thing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Walter 7 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Though it's possible they are simply using similar early dev kits that will be more differentiated as they are finalised Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Whipitcher Wild Goo 472 Posted April 7, 2012 Author Share Posted April 7, 2012 PS4 is also rumoured to have two GPUs based on the 7000 series. The more these rumours come out, the more it sounds like AMD is offering Sony and MS the same thing No, that's NOT what the IGN rumor says. The rumor says that the PS4 will have an AMD 7670 series ( which is just a rebranded 6670, nothing amazing ). The IGN rumor also says it will have AMD's A8-3850 APU, which consists of two elements. 1. A quad core 2.9GHz CPU ( which echoes the pastebin article and all other articles about sony ditching the cell) 2. An integrated 6550D - This is a LOW LOW end graphics card So even a 6550D and a 6670 working together is still very much "weak sauce" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Whipitcher Wild Goo 472 Posted April 7, 2012 Author Share Posted April 7, 2012 Sucks that they aren't using Nvidia gpus Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SII Nvidia GPU's are best in PC's but AMD GPU's have proven themselves better in consoles. Both Microsoft and Sony have started with Nvidia and both moved to AMD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
puertorock_papi 2 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 While they both share the same A2 architecture you're talking about a completely different CPU, even with a different number of cores. And then you're using an article from 2011 to try and convince yourself it would be too expensive years later in 2013 LOL Too expensive? No. Expensive? Maybe. The 720 is going to be a BEAST afterall The CPU is using the A2 architecture and it has 18 cores. If there was any CPU we can go by to assume what 720 might use based on this rumor than this is the CPU. And yes this article from 2011 has Intel (you know the people who actually are making these CPU) stating it's expensive even in a high margin market. Even if IBM is able to repurpose the cores of other PowerPC architectures, designing and implementing a custom SoC for a single niche market, albeit a high-margin one, is an expensive proposition. Intel has spoken and the more I read up on this the more unlikely 720 will have 16 cores. 720 has a better chance of having 12GB of RAM than a 16 core CPU. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lozlink 0 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 16 cores? Are you guys fucking retarded or something Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ancalagon The Black 285 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Specs according to me. I have seen nothing credible to indicate anything better. Rebranded 6670(or something in this range, probably a little stronger) 4 or 6 ore cpu ( 8 cores unlikely and 16 ) 3gb Ram (Would make sense to have 4gb but there will not be more) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest C.M. Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Specs according to me. I have seen nothing credible to indicate anything better. Rebranded 6670(or something in this range, probably a little stronger) 4 or 6 ore cpu ( 8 cores unlikely and 16 ) 3gb Ram (Would make sense to have 4gb but there will not be more) The Xbox 360 (2005) destroyed 2004's best PC. What makes you think the 720 won't destroy 2012's best PC? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Lutece 124 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 yeah bro Microsoft is gonna release a console with a 16-core CPU and two GPUs with 8GB of RAM and it'll be $299 at launch ....lmfao Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bodycount 33 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 yeah bro Microsoft is gonna release a console with a 16-core CPU and two GPUs with 8GB of RAM and it'll be $299 at launch ....lmfao this gen's been going on for 7 years now, 8 when this beast arrives. THat's the longest wait ever in console, absolutelyno doubt that the next ones are going to be mindblowingly more powerful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Lutece 124 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 yeah bro Microsoft is gonna release a console with a 16-core CPU and two GPUs with 8GB of RAM and it'll be $299 at launch ....lmfao this gen's been going on for 7 years now, 8 when this beast arrives. THat's the longest wait ever in console, absolutelyno doubt that the next ones are going to be mindblowingly more powerful. 16-core CPUs/dual GPUs/8GB of RAM is a pipe-dream. Unless you expect Microsoft to charge 599 US dollars or something :] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gemini 1 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 That processor would be overkill, I have a hard time believing that Microsoft is that retarded. A top of the line 4-6 core would be more than enough processing power, they need to focus on shipping with a GPU that has 2+ GB of memory and at least 6GB of system memory... that's what game developers want. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PuNKy_LeMmInG 172 Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 That processor would be overkill, I have a hard time believing that Microsoft is that retarded. A top of the line 4-6 core would be more than enough processing power, they need to focus on shipping with a GPU that has 2+ GB of memory and at least 6GB of system memory... that's what game developers want. pretty much,except ms seem to be playing a numbers game Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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