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Xbox1 - only "around 41 million" sold WW.

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4 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said:

This is why the "exclusives" argument collapses on itself empirically, it's a bonafide fact of observation this gen. Do you remember the first 3 years of the the PS4? Yeah well so do I, it wasn't great and the system rode almost entirely on indie games and multiplatform performance, Sony leaned heavily on both. Guess what happened when it started getting hit after hit with exclusive games in 2017 onward? It sold 2 million more than the previous year, and what happened in 2018 while it was still getting hit after hit with things like GoW and Spiderman absolutely crushing? It fell back to near where it was prior to 2017. There's no rhyme or reason to these system sales and exclusives don't seem to do really anything, that jump in 2015, 2016 and 2017 could be entirely attributed to the systems price reduction and the Pro launch.

 

  • 4 million in 2013
  • 14.4 million in 2014
  • 17.4 million in 2015 (price reduced to $349.99)
  • 17.5 million in 2016 (end of 2016 price reduction to $299 + introduction of the Pro)
  • 20 million in 2017 
  • 18.3 million in 2018

 

There's literally nothing that displays exclusive games have in any way moved the needle for this console. It's never been about that, it's all perception, it's mindshare, it's price reductions. That's all it's ever been about.

 

P.S. The Wii U is another glaring example of exclusives doing nothing, its exclusive games were great and yet it didn't sell. It's MINDSHARE & PERCEPTION.

 

 

 

 

 

You, uh...........do understand that exclusive games are MARKETED to hardcore video game fanboys before they eventually release.

 

We knew there was a problem with Xbox exclusives as early as 2015, and then when Microsoft was talking about Universal Windows Platform in 2016, knowledgeable gamers knew that there was not going to be such a thing as exclusives only on the Xbox.

 

XBox sales really slowed down.

 

People saw Horizon Zero Dawn, Bloodborne (right in the middle of Dark Souls being the hottest name in gaming), Uncharted 4, and then during the middle of the gen God of War, Spiderman, Uncharted Lost Legacy, and TLOU2.

 

I'm sorry, but that settled it for people. And the first wave of PS4 buyers ended up playing their Call of Duty (Sony marketing exclusive) and Madden games on Playstation, and that meant that their friends were going to play online, and that meant they HAD TO BUY PS4 systems.

 

This is how it SNOWBALLS

 

Xbox was showing Crackdown 3, Forza, and Gears (not made by the original developers), and Halo (not made by the original developers). It couldn't compete.

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7 hours ago, madmaltese said:

Bro..............you care greatly about Xbox sales figures.

 

All it would ever take is for you to admit you were wrong about any of the endless things you have been wrong about and nearly everyone will stop going on and on about it. But you always take the other route and double down and in doing so just say more things that end up being wrong.

 

You can't even take the L for predicting switch to come last and it not only came first but broke all records doing so. Same with Smash. The only reason this goes on and on is because you continually refute the facts for your made up assumptions. You are literally arguing against your earlier source :drake: 

Exactly. 

 

He does care greatly.... who could forget the ENDLESS dumb claims he made about;

 

X outselling pro, XB1 being the revenue leader because of X, Switch falling off a cliff, Switch being down in 2018, Switch coming last because of no price drop, Pokémon wouldn't sell, Smash would bomb because no one is talking about it on the GS message boards, him walking into his local wall mart and declaring Xbox1 the winner because of what he saw on shelves, Switch will only sell 3 million WW between Oct- Dec and on and on and on..... "Take it to the BANK!!!" 

 

Now that the hard data is out and he is LITERALLY wrong about every single one of his claims.... he wants to refute facts and bitch "bbbbbnnut who cares :awww:

 

 

 

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On 2019-01-24 at 7:03 PM, DynamiteCop! said:

Yeah well I don't buy it, that's only 6 million above his end of 2017 figure. He's said it before right around other analyst findings that different firms are going to come up with different numbers and that no one is wrong. He's an analyst and there's other analysts firms out there which offer different findings. He's not the end all be all, he's just an active guy on a forum which is why you hear about these things more from him, he's chatty, other firms release reports. 

 

43-45 million seems to be far more realistic, the console seems to sell between 8-9 million on a yearly average. It sold 4.3 million in the US and did 600k in the UK, so that right there is 4.9 million, they're in literally over a hundred other countries and while some are small to think they only make up an additional 1.1 million sales for a year is just retarded. 

 

 

Does it? :bena:

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On 2019-01-24 at 8:03 PM, DynamiteCop! said:

Yeah well I don't buy it, that's only 6 million above his end of 2017 figure. He's said it before right around other analyst findings that different firms are going to come up with different numbers and that no one is wrong. He's an analyst and there's other analysts firms out there which offer different findings. He's not the end all be all, he's just an active guy on a forum which is why you hear about these things more from him, he's chatty, other firms release reports. 

 

43-45 million seems to be far more realistic, the console seems to sell between 8-9 million on a yearly average. It sold 4.3 million in the US and did 600k in the UK, so that right there is 4.9 million, they're in literally over a hundred other countries and while some are small to think they only make up an additional 1.1 million sales for a year is just retarded. 

 

 

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I love that, when all else fails, Dynocrap just into a full bubble and says "well..........I believe its a certain way, just because"

 

Reminds me of Trump, when a news reporter factchecks him and corrects him on the spot.....he'll just pause and say that "well, that's just what I believe."

 

They're trying to say that "a belief" carries the same weight as "a fact."

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