Remij 4,824 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 324fps vs ...10fps Also, now DXR is integrated into the latest UE4 build. Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,109 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Yeah... and... Was this hardware designed to do ray tracing? No. Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,824 Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 minute ago, DynamiteCop! said: Yeah... and... Was this hardware designed to do ray tracing? No. The fallback layer was created for a reason, wasn't it? This is the results... deal with it. Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,109 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Remij_ said: The fallback layer was created for a reason, wasn't it? This is the results... deal with it. This is like trying to compare software rendering to 3D acceleration and then begging the question as to why a software mode performs horribly. The hardware isn't designed for this, it's just a more powerful take on what was already in market. A 1080 Ti would probably handle it the same or relatively close if it were possible to do. Edited February 23, 2019 by DynamiteCop! Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,824 Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: This is like trying to compare software rendering to 3D acceleration and then begging the question as to why a software mode performs horribly. The hardware isn't designed for this, it's just a more powerful take on what was already in market. Nobody is begging the question... it's a simple matter of knowing how it currently performs through the compute cores vs Nvidia's RTX DXR layer. You know... it's a relevant point of interest for many people who are curious as to how large of a difference it would be. Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,109 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Remij_ said: Nobody is begging the question... it's a simple matter of knowing how it currently performs through the compute cores vs Nvidia's RTX DXR layer. You know... it's a relevant point of interest for many people who are curious as to how large of a difference it would be. I'm sure it's a lot more complicated than that. None of this was in any way designed for it. The hardware isn't there, the software isn't there which I would argue plays one of the biggest parts because the lack of a driver won't allow any kind of hardware scaling. This is one of the dumbest threads you've made in a while and I'd wager it's worse than the DLSS ones you constantly ramble on about. Edited February 23, 2019 by DynamiteCop! Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,824 Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: I'm sure it's a lot more complicated than that. None of this was in any way designed for it. The hardware isn't there, the software isn't there which I would argue plays one of the biggest parts because the lack of a driver won't allow any kind of hardware scaling. This is one of the dumbest threads you've made in a while and I'd wager it's worse than the DLSS ones you constantly ramble on about. No it's not.. lmao You're just taking this hard because you think the thread is about AMD vs Nvidia... when it's really about DXR fallback vs DXR.. Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,824 Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 Maybe this thread is about AMD vs Nvidia... Here's a 1050 getting 26fps with more primary rays per second Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,824 Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 Here you go... 1080ti Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,109 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, Remij_ said: Maybe this thread is about AMD vs Nvidia... Here's a 1050 getting 26fps with more primary rays per second 6 minutes ago, Remij_ said: Here you go... 1080ti Nvidia has drivers for RTX rolled into their suite, AMD does not. Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,824 Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 minute ago, DynamiteCop! said: Nvidia has drivers for RTX rolled into their suite, AMD does not. Yes, AMD does. They literally just activated it in their drivers yesterday... which is why you're seeing this now.. Here, try the demo yourself. Maybe someone faked that image? I wouldn't put it past them... http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=75266639847527851391 Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,109 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Remij_ said: Yes, AMD does. They literally just activated it in their drivers yesterday... which is why you're seeing this now.. Here, try the demo yourself. Maybe someone faked that image? I wouldn't put it past them... http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=75266639847527851391 trojan.exe Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,824 Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 Just now, DynamiteCop! said: trojan.exe Oh for fuck sakes you're a clown Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,109 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 It's not doing anything, it won't even open. Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,824 Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 Just now, DynamiteCop! said: It's not doing anything, it won't even open. Are your drivers and Windows 10 up to date? I just told you that they released new drivers activating it yesterday.. Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,109 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Windows is up to date and my drivers are the newest beta build. Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,109 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) The support might be there, but AMD users will still not be able to use the Ray Tracing effects as AMD has not added any support for Microsoft’s fallback layers in its drivers. Edited February 23, 2019 by DynamiteCop! Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,824 Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: The support might be there, but AMD users will still not be able to use the Ray Tracing effects as AMD has not added any support for Microsoft’s fallback layers in its drivers. The fallback layer is supported by ALL DX12 devices... Before yesterday.. the demo wouldn't start... now it does. Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,109 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Remij_ said: The fallback layer is supported by ALL DX12 devices... Before yesterday.. the demo wouldn't start... now it does. Don't know what to tell ya, I'm on the newest build of Windows with AMD's newest driver and it doesn't do anything. Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,824 Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: Don't know what to tell ya, I'm on the newest build of Windows with AMD's newest driver and it doesn't do anything. Weird that it wont run. People were saying that drivers just activated it. I should say though that I did some deeper digging and you're right in that AMD themselves haven't updated their driver with their own specific fallback layer, this is a MS designed fallback layer for compatibility so developers could learn the API, not performance. This layer currently isn't meant for anything else. So it explains why performance is so terrible compared to Nvidia's non RTX cards. Link to post Share on other sites
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