Digital Foundry: Zen 2/Navi PC vs Xbox One X/PS4 Pro - How Much More Performance Could We Get?

[Playstation Tablet 1,825]

 

 

Next Gen Console PC Concept Build

• CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X at 3.2GHz (Underclocked)
• Motherboard - Asus ROG Strix B450F
• GPU - RX 5700 XT
• Storage - NVME SSD

Cinebench R15
Athlon 5370 at 1.6GHz (Jaguar CPU Core x 4)
1T (Single thread) - 35
MT (Multi thread) - 128
8 core (Projected, 100% scaling assumption) - 256

Athlon 5370 at 2.3GHz (Jaguar CPU Core x 4)
1T (Single thread) - 49
MT (Multi thread) - 183
8 core (Projected, 100% scaling assumption - 366

Richard makes a comparison with Intel's 2008 Quad-core CPU, the Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600.
Intel Q6600 Stock (2.4GHz Quad Core)
MT (Multi-thread) - 245

 

 

 

[Remij 4,986]

The new CPUs are going to allow for so much more it's not even funny  

 

So yea, the most important takeaway here is that raw TF numbers aren't and never have been a good way to compare capabilities between GPUs.  Especially when they are different architectures... Games can be bottlenecked in so many different ways.  The number is essentially meaningless.  Like as if Nvidia hasn't proven that time and time again.  Richard seems intent on making that clear, so it's likely that the TF number would seem disappointing on it's own.

 

That's why I think this talk that PS5 is more powerful than Scarlett comes down to the tools at this point.  It seems doubtful that there will be any meaningful difference between them.  It's likely they'll both be the same basic setup, GPU, CPU, RAM, SSD... with only minor custom changes/additions/functions/frequency to the hardware.  

[lynux3 2,407]

4 minutes ago, Remij_ said:

The new CPUs are going to allow for so much more it's not even funny  

 

So yea, the most important takeaway here is that raw TF numbers aren't and never have been a good way to compare capabilities between GPUs.  Especially when they are different architectures... Games can be bottlenecked in so many different ways.  The number is essentially meaningless.  Like as if Nvidia hasn't proven that time and time again.  Richard seems intent on making that clear, so it's likely that the TF number would seem disappointing on it's own.

 

That's why I think this talk that PS5 is more powerful than Scarlett comes down to the tools at this point.  It seems doubtful that there will be any meaningful difference between them.  It's likely they'll both be the same basic setup, GPU, CPU, RAM, SSD... with only minor custom changes/additions/functions/frequency to the hardware.  

RTX flopped.

[Remij 4,986]

5700/xt is gonna be low end by late next year  

 

 

[Playstation Tablet 1,825]

40 @ 1.8GHz = 9.2TF
44 @ 1.8GHz = 10.1TF
40 @ 2.0GHz = 10.2TF
44 @ 2.0GHz = 11.2TF

[Remij 4,986]

3 minutes ago, Team 2019 said:

40 @ 1.8GHz = 9.2TF
44 @ 1.8GHz = 10.1TF
40 @ 2.0GHz = 10.2TF
44 @ 2.0GHz = 11.2TF

It's NOT going to be no fucking 2GHz.. jesus christ people  

[lynux3 2,407]

7 minutes ago, Remij_ said:

It's NOT going to be no fucking 2GHz.. jesus christ people  

[Remij 4,986]

Just now, lynux3 said:

Use your god damned head  

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I look forward to not having a CPU bottleneck.