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1 hour ago, Ike said:

Bet you Yang doesn't even finish in the top 4 tonight :hest:

You laugh like thats a good thing. Do you like Klobachar or something? 

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7 minutes ago, Cookester15 said:

You laugh like thats a good thing. Do you like Klobachar or something? 

Just laughing at Vini.

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i hate trump. but i also dislike these candidates. 

 

i at least liked both obama and mccain, back in 2008. 

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24 minutes ago, -GD- said:

i hate trump. but i also dislike these candidates. 

 

i at least liked both obama and mccain, back in 2008. 

You're not alone.

 

CANDIDATE CYCLE PARTY FAV AVG UNFAV AVG NET
George W. Bush 2000 R 56.2% 23.4% +32.7
Barack Obama 2008 D 49.3 29.8 +19.5
John McCain 2008 R 45.3 31.2 +14.0
John Edwards 2008 D 45.5 32.5 +13.0
Rudy Giuliani 2008 R 47.5 35.2 +12.2
Al Gore 2000 D 43.2 39.0 +4.2
Hillary Clinton 2008 D 47.5 45.5 +2.0
Mitt Romney 2012 R 37.5 35.8 +1.7
Elizabeth Warren 2020 D 39.8 40.2 -0.4
Joe Biden 2020 D 43.4 44.3 -0.8
Bernie Sanders 2020 D 43.6 45.2 -1.6
Hillary Clinton 2016 D 41.9 50.9 -9.0
Newt Gingrich 2012 R 30.8 45.3 -14.5
Jeb Bush 2016 R 30.8 51.1 -20.3
Donald Trump 2016 R 32.6 58.7 -26.1
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50 minutes ago, -GD- said:

i hate trump. but i also dislike these candidates. 

 

i at least liked both obama and mccain, back in 2008. 

Its a pretty sad state of affairs when, most Americans think they're making a smart choice, but in reality they're attempting to read personalities for job in which you shouldn't really base it on personality.

 

The thing is, that people THINK THEY KNOW people's personalities, but there so much incentive there for these elected officials to fake it.

 

Whenever you watch a female actress like Charlize Theron, Anne Hatheway, and they act so likeable and down to earth. You end up forgetting: they're actors. They're almost certainly acting.

 

Barack Obama sounded like the next MLK..............when he's giving a speech to a crowd.

 

Once he gets into the White House..........he's just a pro-business centrist.

 

He went back on the campaign trail in 2012......and started sounding like MLK again. And he went back to the White House and did the same exact thing again.

 

Would you go to a mechanic who has no personality, and just fixes shit? Or a mechanic that you'd love to hang out with, but never gets your car working right?

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18 minutes ago, Ike said:

Jesus fucking Christ. How is Bush 2 that high? :|

Worth noting that the figures are for the end of the year prior to the election, so Bush 2's numbers are from late 1999. Still weird, though, considering H. W. left office with pretty poor approval ratings. The 538 article the chart comes from doesn't provide any context, either.

 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-2020-front-runners-arent-as-well-liked-as-past-contenders/

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Let me just say that voting shouldn’t be this complicated and a simple primary is all the should be needed. The caucus system is antiquated. 

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1 minute ago, Ike said:

Let me just say that voting shouldn’t be this complicated and a simple primary is all the should be needed. The caucus system is antiquated. 

The caucus system is definitely antiquated.

 

But it does benefit candidates who have very energetic and committed crowds.

 

So, this does benefit Bernie, and any of those smaller longshot candidates, if they can't provide surprises here, under the best possible circumstances, then aren't doing jackshit anywhere else.

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3 minutes ago, Hot Sauce said:

Worth noting that the figures are for the end of the year prior to the election, so Bush 2's numbers are from late 1999. Still weird, though, considering H. W. left office with pretty poor approval ratings. The 538 article the chart comes from doesn't provide any context, either.

 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-2020-front-runners-arent-as-well-liked-as-past-contenders/

Yeah that good boy southern accent did him well into the election. 

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1 minute ago, jehurey said:

The caucus system is definitely antiquated.

 

But it does benefit candidates who have very energetic and committed crowds.

 

So, this does benefit Bernie, and any of those smaller longshot candidates, if they can't provide surprises here, under the best possible circumstances, then aren't doing jackshit anywhere else.

Voting should be as easy as it is in Washington state. We get a mail in ballot with prepaid postage and they even send a voting guide with written statements from each candidate and a for/against for each ballot measure. But we’re a hardcore blue state. 

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17 minutes ago, Hot Sauce said:

Worth noting that the figures are for the end of the year prior to the election, so Bush 2's numbers are from late 1999. Still weird, though, considering H. W. left office with pretty poor approval ratings. The 538 article the chart comes from doesn't provide any context, either.

 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-2020-front-runners-arent-as-well-liked-as-past-contenders/

The last time they were liked was before the explosion of social media. After 2008 everything changed.  Now the candidates are micro analyzed by millions of people and you have a platform to voice your displeasure to the world. 

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FiveThirtyEight..........SUPPOSEDLY, somehow, was able to obtain the basic details from that Des Moines Register poll that was scrubbed at the last minute.

 

It only adds fuel to the theories.

 

 

All of a sudden, this past weekend, Democratic Centrists clearly turned up their anti-Bernie rhetoric and this poll was mothballed.

 

I think they caught wind of Biden coming in fourth, and decided that the public can see this, or else it might tank his numbers even further.

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Things really jump around from precinct to precinct, but we are starting to see some impressive results at certain places:

 

 

:lawl::lawl:The fuckin captain ran off to Bernie's camp:lawl::lawl:

 

 

:dame:

 

 

 

 

 

:lawl:

 

 

In case it still hasn't sunk in yet.............the Jewish guy actually got Muslims to unit and vote for him. SO much so, that he won all the delegates at that precinct. That's pretty impressive.

 

 

Rich people don't like Bernie, total shocker.

 

 

If those hip longshots aren't winning at college campuses, they won't be campaigning for much longer.

 

 

 

Nate Silver is saying that its neck and neck with Bernie and Buttigieg, and its Buttigieg that has benefitted from Klobuchar not having enough viability, and alot of those people go to Buttigieg.

 

Which is surprising, because it means that they still don't want Biden. So either way, this makes Biden look bad.

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2 hours ago, jehurey said:

Its a pretty sad state of affairs when, most Americans think they're making a smart choice, but in reality they're attempting to read personalities for job in which you shouldn't really base it on personality.

 

The thing is, that people THINK THEY KNOW people's personalities, but there so much incentive there for these elected officials to fake it.

 

Whenever you watch a female actress like Charlize Theron, Anne Hatheway, and they act so likeable and down to earth. You end up forgetting: they're actors. They're almost certainly acting.

 

Barack Obama sounded like the next MLK..............when he's giving a speech to a crowd.

 

Once he gets into the White House..........he's just a pro-business centrist.

 

He went back on the campaign trail in 2012......and started sounding like MLK again. And he went back to the White House and did the same exact thing again.

 

Would you go to a mechanic who has no personality, and just fixes shit? Or a mechanic that you'd love to hang out with, but never gets your car working right?

It’s not about personality. McCain didn’t have a personality I clicked with. But I was ok with him. While I’m Democrat, I could easily see myself picking a republican, who I share similar views with. I think Bernie sucks and I hate socialism. Warren can suck a dick too. 

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19 minutes ago, Cookester15 said:

Sooo what's going on with Iowa? DNC rigging? 

Nothing is going on. The optics on this for the Democrats look terrible. There’s nothing that we will get out of tonight. 

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2 minutes ago, Ike said:

Nothing is going on. The optics on this for the Democrats look terrible. There’s nothing that we will get out of tonight. 

They're using an app by an unknown developer vetted by former Hillary staffers :npc:

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