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5 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

You're flying through a non international Airport? :mjpls:

I almost had stops in spain but I decided to pay slightly more and went with direct flights, so ill be able to avoid europe altogether.

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1 hour ago, Twinblade said:

Morocco. Theres been 0 cases over there so far, hopefully it stays that way.

eh, you'll be fine. have fun bro! 

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BTW there's been an untraceable case that was caught in Northern California.

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Fucking unbelievable:

 

 

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U.S. workers without protective gear assisted coronavirus evacuees, HHS whistleblower says

Lena H. Sun
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The workers did not show symptoms of infection and were not tested for the virus, according to lawyers for the whistleblower, who is a senior HHS official based in Washington who oversees workers at the Administration for Children and Families, a unit within HHS.

 

The whistleblower is seeking federal protection because she alleges she was unfairly and improperly reassigned after raising concerns about the safety of these workers to HHS officials, including those within the office of Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar. She was told Feb. 19 that if she does not accept the new position in 15 days, which is March 5, she would be terminated.

 

The whistleblower has decades of experience in the field, received two HHS department awards from Azar last year and has received the highest performance evaluations, her lawyers said.

 

The complaint was filed Wednesday with the Office of the Special Counsel, an independent federal watchdog agency. The whistleblower’s lawyers provided a copy of a redacted 24-page complaint to The Washington Post. A spokesman for the Office of the Special Counsel said he could not comment on complaints filed with the office.

 

The complaint alleges HHS staff were “improperly deployed” and were “not properly trained or equipped to operate in a public health emergency situation.” The complaint also alleges the workers were potentially exposed to coronavirus because appropriate steps were not taken to protect them and staff were not trained in wearing personal protective equipment, even though they had face-to-face contact with returning passengers. The workers were in contact with passengers in an airplane hangar where evacuees were received and on two other occasions: when they helped distribute keys for room assignments and hand out colored ribbons for identification purposes.

 

“We take all whistleblower complaints very seriously and are providing the complainant all appropriate protections under the Whistleblower Protection Act. We are evaluating the complaint and have nothing further to add at this time,” HHS spokeswoman Caitlin Oakley said.

 

The whistleblower, in her complaint, states that “appropriate steps were not taken to quarantine, monitor, or test [the workers] during their deployment and upon their return home.” The repatriated Americans were among those evacuated from Wuhan and quarantined on military bases in California and Texas because they were considered at high risk for contracting the flu-like illness.

 

About 14 personnel from the Administration for Children and Families, or ACF, were sent to March Air Force base in Riverside County, Calif., and another team of about 13 ACF personnel were sent to Travis Air Force in Fairfield, Calif., according to the complaint and the whistleblower’s lawyer, Ari Wilkenfeld. Several people within HHS voiced objection to sending the ACF personnel to receive passengers, according to a person familiar with the conversations, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations.

 

A second person familiar with the situation said the workers were not tested for coronavirus because none of them met the criteria, which was restricted at that time to people who had recent travel to China or contact with a confirmed case. The workers also did not exhibit any symptoms, the person said. If they had, appropriate protocol would have been followed.

 

The deployments took place Jan. 28 to 31, around the time when the first planeload of evacuees arrived at March, and Feb. 2 to Feb. 7, during the time when additional flights were arriving at Travis. The planes each carried about 200 Americans who were repatriated from Wuhan.

 

After their deployments, the workers returned to their normal duties, some taking commercial airline flights to return to their offices around the country, the lawyers said.

 

“Our client was concerned that ACF staff — who were potentially exposed to the coronavirus — were allowed to leave quarantined areas and return to their communities, where they may have spread the coronavirus to others,” said Lauren Naylor, one of the whistleblower’s lawyers.

 

The whistleblower is also seeking assistance from the office of Rep. Jimmy Gomez, (D-Calif.), a member of the House Ways and Means committee and vice chair of the House Oversight Committee, according to a Gomez spokesman.

 

During a hearing Thursday, Gomez asked Azar whether any employees from ACF could have been sent to help with the repatriation of Americans from Wuhan without any training in emergency response. Azar replied that some ACF employees were involved.

 

Asked what sort of health and safety training the personnel received and whether any of them were exposed to high-risk evacuees from China, Azar said: “They never should have been without P.P.E,” referring to personal protective equipment.

 

Asked whether any protocols may have been broken, given the urgency on the ground, Azar replied urgency was never a reason for breaking safety protocols.

 

“I don’t believe that has taken place,” Azar said said, adding that health and safety protocols “should always be followed.” He said he did not personally know the names of the team, but other department officials did. Pressed by Gomez what the department would do if untrained employees were exposed to the virus, Azar said: “I’d want to know the full facts, and we’d take appropriate remedial efforts.”

 

The whistleblower said she received an email Jan. 25 about a potential deployment within ACF to support repatriation of the evacuated Americans, according to her lawyer. She initially supported the efforts because they had the “appearance that this was within ACF’s scope,” Naylor said. But later, she discovered the teams were dispatched without her knowledge by other senior officials at HHS. It was part of the agency’s “all-hands-on-deck” mission, Naylor said, but it broke agency protocol about what kinds of employees should respond to health emergencies. The whistleblower said she later found out about the deployment when she heard directly from some employees and other senior officials at HHS.

 

Some workers expressed concern about the lack of protective gear to the ACF team leader on the ground. That person joined ACF in September and had “no training or experience in any federal emergency management, public health emergency response, or safety or operational protocols to run the mission,” the complaint states.

 

ACF personnel typically deal with supporting people recovering from natural disasters, such as floods and fires, and helping victims apply for temporary assistance, all of which are under the category of human services, the whistleblower’s lawyers said.

HHS officials broke established protocols for emergency support by sending ACF workers to a health emergency, for which they have no training, Naylor said. ACF, which has about 1,300 employees, has come under attack in recent years because of its role in sheltering and taking custody of migrant children who crossed the U.S.-Mexico border who were separated from them by the Department of Homeland Security.

 

The workers’ concerns about potential exposure to coronavirus were not addressed, the whistleblower’s lawyers said.

 

“She was involuntarily assigned to a position in a subject matter where she has no expertise,” Wilkenfeld, her lawyer, said in an interview Thursday. The agency said the reason for the reassignment was “necessary to meet the needs of the department,” according to a memo she received. “If I did not accept involuntary reassignment, I would be terminated from federal service through adverse personnel action,” according to her complaint.

 

Amy Goldstein contributed to this report.

 

 

 

Now what were we hearing again, about some cases popping up in California, and we have no idea how they started?

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Hello from the front line of the Apocalypse. I live in the Bay Area county where the first US community spread case just happened, and our governor Gavin Newsom refuses to tell us which city the infected person is from because like Trump he's trying to downplay the threat. 8400 people in the state are now being monitored and we currently only have 200 test kits. But its okay, our Public Health Director assures us the risk is still low. Except if you live here were it's now out in the wild. Then, godspeed?

 

But at least playing the stock market right now is like shooting fish in a barrel. Short all those travel and hospitality stocks, yo.

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8 minutes ago, Saucer said:

Hello from the front line of the Apocalypse. I live in the Bay Area county where the first US community spread case just happened, and our governor Gavin Newsom refuses to tell us which city the infected person is from because like Trump he's trying to downplay the threat. 8400 people in the state are now being monitored and we currently only have 200 test kits. But its okay, our Public Health Director assures us the risk is still low. Except if you live here were it's now out in the wild. Then, godspeed?

 

But at least playing the stock market right now is like shooting fish in a barrel. Short all those travel and hospitality stocks, yo.

And invest in anything that makes you stay inside like Netflix...

 

I thought the first untraceable case was in Sacramento?

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^ yeah that’s what I was gonna say. That person is in sacremento

 

California is home to the United States’ first unknown-origin case of the coronavirus, with a Solano County patient treated in Sacramento at the UC Davis Medical Center for a case of the virus despite not traveling to China or having close contact with someone known to be infected.

Solano County health officials stressed the risk to residents remains low, but enacted the emergency declaration to ratchet up its response to the virus and its ability to call upon local, state and federal agencies for help.”

 

 

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I live in the south so if they want to blockade the north so no one can come here and spread it that’d be great. They can keep their hella and hyphy selves where they belong

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44 minutes ago, Ike said:

And invest in anything that makes you stay inside like Netflix...

 

I thought the first untraceable case was in Sacramento?

 

She's from Solano, and she's now being treated at the UC Davis Med Center in Sac. Travis Air Force Base is in Solano. That's where the cruise ship passengers were taken, and healthcare workers there weren't told how to properly handle them. 

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11 minutes ago, Saucer said:

 

She's from Solano, and she's now being treated at the UC Davis Med Center in Sac. Travis Air Force Base is in Solano. That's where the cruise ship passengers were taken, and healthcare workers there weren't told how to properly handle them. 

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1 hour ago, Saucer said:

Hello from the front line of the Apocalypse. I live in the Bay Area county where the first US community spread case just happened, and our governor Gavin Newsom refuses to tell us which city the infected person is from because like Trump he's trying to downplay the threat. 8400 people in the state are now being monitored and we currently only have 200 test kits. But its okay, our Public Health Director assures us the risk is still low. Except if you live here were it's now out in the wild. Then, godspeed?

 

But at least playing the stock market right now is like shooting fish in a barrel. Short all those travel and hospitality stocks, yo.

So even in an emergency situation.............its comforting to see Saucer STILL trying to blame Democrats equally along with Trump.

 

LOL we could be crawling out of the rubble from a nuclear-destroyed Earth in WW3, and Saucer would be muttering to himself that the Democrats were at fault because of some previous bill they passed that led to this.

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On 2020-02-27 at 5:37 PM, Twinblade said:

Morocco. Theres been 0 cases over there so far, hopefully it stays that way.

maybe you bring the virus to them :mjgrin: 

 

 

 

 

@jehurey  thanks for reminding me to watch that movie. I got the flu right now and a fever. Got a doc appointment tomorrow. I hope it's corona and I die :mjcry: 

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2nd coronavirus case discovered in California, this time in Santa Clara. The person also has no history of travel. Jesus were fucked. They to just nuke Northern California now before it spreads further south

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5 minutes ago, Delita said:

2nd coronavirus case discovered in California, this time in Santa Clara. The person also has no history of travel. Jesus were fucked. They to just nuke Northern California now before it spreads further south

maybe it was sexually contracted :smoke:

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A local school here told 2 teachers to not come in over fear they have coronavirus due to where they traveled .

 

They probably dont , but the fear will start

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some people are just clueless

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8057513/Man-kept-coronavirus-quarantine-stop-coughing-taking-water-3-year-old-daughter.html

 

This guy is coughing after just being released from a coronavirus quarantine, and decides to take a sip of water from his daughter's water bottle. How can there be such a lack of common sense in this country.

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3 hours ago, Twinblade said:

some people are just clueless

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8057513/Man-kept-coronavirus-quarantine-stop-coughing-taking-water-3-year-old-daughter.html

 

This guy is coughing after just being released from a coronavirus quarantine, and decides to take a sip of water from his daughter's water bottle. How can there be such a lack of common sense in this country.

Well, they shouldn't do that, as a general caution.

 

But, if he got released from coronavirus quarantine, and ASSUMING they tested him properly and he tested negative for it, then he doesn't have the virus and wouldn't pass it on by sharing a bottle of water.

 

How long is the incubation period, like almost a full week?

 

That case in California is almost certainly going to have more people coming out. And the problem is, by the time they come as and are confirmed cases, they would've been around people, and they may be in their incubation period.

 

The other thing is that many Americans simply cannot afford to "shut it down" and avoid going to work. People are living paycheck to paycheck, and most common jobs don't allow people to just stop coming to work without some sort of pressure.

 

So somebody is going to go to work during their incubation period, and probably spread it there. Fast-food places and restaurants, and their managers, better get fucking serious about hygiene protocols. But we know they are not.

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