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2 minutes ago, ghostz said:

If the White House says it’s up to the states, it’s up to the states. They are just as responsible. 
 

if I tell you a murderer is in the neighbor hood and you have the authority to sound the alarm, don’t blame me for not doing it myself. 
 

 

No.............that's them admitting failure.

 

Trump says this is a war.

 

Let's imagine a REAL WAR. The Russians are coming to invade America.

 

How would you react if Trump does very little during the first 8 weeks of the war, and then says "well, its up to the states now"

 

Would you automatically blame the states if they aren't doing a good job 8 weeks into this war???????????? You're telling me you'd be spending your time blaming the states??????????

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Jerry, remember when I told you last week your state would be shut down. You said, nah, they may just encourage us to stay home and you BRAGGED about how you didn’t care. 
 

I hope you’re the reason oz does, jerry. 

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Just now, GeorgeW1000 said:

Trump is repeating the same stuff Michael Savage said on air... Oh boy. 

 

The economy can wait-- I can deal with a stay-at-home edict. We don't need a shelter-in-place edict. 

You can. But others can’t, like Jerry. They simply don’t care. Therefore, it needs to be forced. 

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1 minute ago, jehurey said:

No.............that's them admitting failure.

 

Trump says this is a war.

 

Let's imagine a REAL WAR. The Russians are coming to invade America.

 

How would you react if Trump does very little during the first 8 weeks of the war, and then says "well, its up to the states now"

 

Would you automatically blame the states if they aren't doing a good job 8 weeks into this war???????????? You're telling me you'd be spending your time blaming the states??????????

States have no control over the army, Jerry. They do have control over how their states operate. Thanks for proving you know nothing. 
 

hope oz can at least have a funeral. Prob not, though. 

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1 minute ago, ghostz said:


are you saying the state governors are have no authority or oversight of their own state?

 

LOL

Hmmmmmmmmmm, let's see

 

  1. They don't communicate with China, like a CERTAIN government should have during December 2019
  2. They don't have the authority to close INTERNATIONAL PORTS, like a CERTAIN gvoerment does.
  3. They don't have a Wartime production powers to force private manufacturers to make the necessary equipment that they need.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

YYYYYYYYYYYEAH, that's exactly what I'm telling you, and I already gave you those reasons about 40 posts ago.

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5 minutes ago, ghostz said:

If you were your states gov, would you shut your state down? Regardless of what trump is doing? I know I sure would. 

The problem here is many business supply not only their own local state but many neighboring states, so even if one shuts down, it wouldn't do a thing if the rest are open.

Again, this has to be done, nationwide.

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Just now, MalaXmaS said:

The problem here is many business supply not only their own local state but many neighboring states, so even if one shuts down, it wouldn't do a thing if the rest are open.

Again, this has to be done, nationwide.

Answer the question. I agree it needs to be nationwide. I’ve been saying it since February. 

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1 minute ago, ghostz said:

States have no control over the army, Jerry. They do have control over how their states operate. Thanks for proving you know nothing. 
 

hope oz can at least have a funeral. Prob not, though. 

States are not international governments who should have had CDC boots on the ground in December 2019

 

States do not control INTERNATIONAL PORTS of entry

 

States do not have Wartime Production powers that would force private manufacturers to make the necessary ventilators that they need right now.

 

You lose this argument, every time............right here at this point.

 

EVERY. TIME.

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1 minute ago, jehurey said:

States are not international governments who should have had CDC boots on the ground in December 2019

 

States do not control INTERNATIONAL PORTS of entry

 

States do not have Wartime Production powers that would force private manufacturers to make the necessary ventilators that they need right now.

 

You lose this argument, every time............right here at this point.

 

EVERY. TIME.

Do states control what happens in their own state, Jerry?

 

Do states have the power to shut down businesses, Jerry?

 

would you even obey if trump DID a nationwide ban? Nope

 

your POS state wouldn’t need ventilators If  they shut it down weeks ago

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It's getting insane now in New York City.  The death toll is rising exponentially by the day.  The sick people are increasing rapidly and the hospitals are over flooded. 

 

For those that are saying this is fear mongering, you better hope your state, city or town isn't hit as hard as NYC is being hit right now. 

 

This isn't fear mongering... its reality. 

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1 hour ago, ghostz said:

Do states control what happens in their own state, Jerry?

 

Do states have the power to shut down businesses, Jerry?

 

would you even obey if trump DID a nationwide ban? Nope

 

your POS state wouldn’t need ventilators If  they shut it down weeks ago

like Governor Cuomo said.... one state doing one thing and another doing something else won't really solve anything. 

 

It has to be nationwide. 

 

Example, when NYC shutdown Casino, drinking in Bars etc.... people drove from NYC to Connecticut to go gamble, drink etc..... guess what happened.   Those same people are infected now.. tested positive.  Either they got it in the neighboring state or they were already infected and now infected people in Connecticut. 

 

What do you mean the states won't obey? Under a national state of Emergency Rhys have no choice but to Obey the feds. 

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5 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

My Governor Cuomo said.... one state doing one thing and another doing something else won't really solve anything. 

 

It has to be nationwide. 

 

Example, when NYC shutdown Casino, drinking in Bars etc.... people drove my NYC to Connecticut to go gamble, drink etc..... guess what happened.   Those same people are infected now.. tested positive.  Either they got it in the neighboring state or they were already infected and now infected people in Connecticut. 

 

What do you means the states won't obey? Under a national state of Emergency Rhys have no choice but to Obey the feds. 

I agree it has to be nationwide. I’ve said this since literally February. If trump won’t do it, it falls on the states. Any gov that has their state open is just as much to blame at this point as trump, imo. Shut it all down. Of course there will still be new cases. But shutting it down will be the only way to stop shit

 

for fucks sake, gyms are still open in most parts of upper Florida. Of course trump should have shut it down. But guess what? He didn’t. Now the states need to all shut down. 
 

Connecticut should have shut down as well. Their gov is a fucking moron, along with any gov that is allowing their state to operate. 
 

and I didn’t say states won’t obey. I said JERRY won’t. He’s already bragged about not caring what the government tells him to do. 

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4 minutes ago, ghostz said:

I agree it has to be nationwide. I’ve said this since literally February. If trump won’t do it, it falls on the states. Any gov that has their state open is just as much to blame at this point as trump, imo. Shut it all down. Of course there will still be new cases. But shutting it down will be the only way to stop shit

 

for fucks sake, gyms are still open in Florida. Of course trump should have shut it down. But guess what? He didn’t. Now the states need to all shut down. 

and that's why Cuomo and the Tri state governors shut it down without waiting on Trump to act. (all Non essential businesses are closed) when its clear he isn't going to.   He now wants to relax social Distancing as soon as next week.... What in the actual fuck? :pffft:

 

But it's at a point where Federal resources are needed and they sent chicken scratch to NYS..... ridiculous.  

 

States don't have the funds to maintain an all out shutdown, but the feds do. 

 

That's where the Feds have to step up. 

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Im in CT, the state is mostly shut down but the problem is that people from NY are constantly crossing over and infecting everybody. If it were up to me I would have shut down the damn state borders with NY, but of course that would cause the snowflakes to rage.

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Just now, Goukosan said:

and that's why Cuomo and the Tri state governors shut it down without waiting on Trump. (No essential) to act when its clear he isn't going to.   He now wants to relax social Distancing as soon as next week.... What in the actual fuck? :pffft:

 

But it's at a point where Federal resources are needed and they sent chicken scratch to NYS..... ridiculous.  

 

States don't have the funds to maintain an all out shutdown, but the feds do. 

 

That's where the Feds have to step up. 

Agreed for supplies, but that’s not what I’m talking about. Every state needs shut down, it doesn’t matter what trump doesn’t do because the states have the power to do that. Supplies are another thing, I agree. 
 

but then you have fools like @jehurey saying he won’t stay indoors regardless of what trump says. And there are millions upon millions of Jerry’s in this country. 
 

so with that being said, I support martial law in this situation 

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1 minute ago, Twinblade said:

Im in CT, the state is mostly shut down but the problem is that people from NY are constantly crossing over and infecting everybody. If it were up to me I would have shut down the damn state borders with NY, but of course that would cause the snowflakes to rage.

NYC should be entirely shut down with no entry or exiting the city AND state. 

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Ghostz I find it strange that allegheny county ballooned with cases compared to many other counties 

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1 minute ago, Twinblade said:

Im in CT, the state is mostly shut down but the problem is that people from NY are constantly crossing over and infecting everybody. If it were up to me I would have shut down the damn state borders with NY, but of course that would cause the snowflakes to rage.

You are proving my point. 

 

States can't shut down their borders to neighboring states. 

 

But guess who can shut the entire country down. 

 

The Feds :shrug:

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1 minute ago, Goukosan said:

You are proving my point. 

 

States can't shut down their borders to neighboring states. 

 

But guess who can shut the entire country down. 

 

The Feds :shrug:

So why haven't the states asked Trump to do so? Why didn't they ever even ask?

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