Playstation Tablet 1,770 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) https://t.co/pkehAqeOGU Interesting. If it's 6-7tflops should be fine with checkerboarding other reconstruction techniques. 4tflops I assume was an intiail target but that's just way too low. 1440p is honestly more than enough, 4K gains are pretty weak. Edited March 5, 2020 by Team 2019 Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 7,957 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 It makes 0 sense, considering the one x is 6tf Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,770 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, -GD- said: It makes 0 sense, considering the one x is 6tf RDNA tflops. The tflop number will be different in real world performance . Ignore the tflop number. 9tflop RDNA outperforms 12gcn tflops if I understand correctly. Link to post Share on other sites
-GD-X★ 7,957 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Team 2019 said: RDNA tflops. The tflop number will be different in real world performance . Ignore the tflop number. 9tflop RDNA outperforms 12gcn tflops if I understand correctly. Ahhhh Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,770 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, -GD- said: Ahhhh Series X 12tflops will yield around 15-16 tflops in PS4/One GPU performance. So yeah jump is impressive as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,823 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, -GD- said: It makes 0 sense, considering the one x is 6tf Nah. It will be MUCH more efficient per TF and have access to features and programming techniques not possible on X1X. And on top of that, the CPU and memory bandwidth will allow for FAR more to be done with said GPU power. It'll be a potent little machine. Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,770 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) Well it can do ray tracing on top of having a new CPU and SSD as base. Resolution will obviously take a major hit and maybe a setting here or there. I don't think 95 percent of people can tell the difference between 1440p and 2160p, because we are approaching very high resolutions that require huge TVs and proper viewing distances. And even people that have the proper setups probably won't notice significant gains anyways. Edited March 5, 2020 by Team 2019 Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,770 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) This thing is probably why Sony is waiting out. They'll be forced into 400 if they like it or not. Though if X is 600 which is possible PS5 might go 500. Internal MS documents say they expect a 3:1 sales ratio in favour of Lockhart. Edited March 5, 2020 by Team 2019 Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,770 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) One thing about the PS5 9tflop leak that makes it suspect is this. 1. Sony has a CU disabling patent for BC, so 36 CU limit makes no sense. GitHub leak has no context. 2. The clock leak is way too high. It's expensive and very hot. 3. Insiders say to ignore it. 4. It has the same RAM bandwidth as the 12tflop Series X in theory. Question is why. MS talking about 12tflops already probably means they have some sort of win over the PS5 GPU but you never know. Edited March 5, 2020 by Team 2019 Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,823 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: One thing about the PS5 9tflop leak that makes it suspect is this. 1. Sony has a CU disabling patent for BC, so 36 CU limit makes no sense. GitHub leak has no context. 2. The clock leak is way too high. It's expensive and very hot. 3. Insiders say to ignore it. 4. It has the same RAM bandwidth as the 12tflop Series X in theory. Question is why. MS talking about 12tflops already probably means they have some sort of win over the PS5 GPU but you never know. 1. Patents. Do. Not. Equal. Product. 2. I agree.. but maybe Sony figured out a cooling solution 3. Insiders also say best believe it 4. Could have something to do with their memory subsystem and SSD implementation. Bandwidth will play an important role. I've heard they do.. and that they've known they do for a while now. Edited March 5, 2020 by Remij_ Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,816 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Lockharts existence could bring a 600 dollar series X . Link to post Share on other sites
Ike★ 2,931 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, JONBpc said: Lockharts existence could bring a 600 dollar series X . I think most people are expecting the XSeX to be priced at $599. Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 2,816 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 I would say the vast majority are thinking 500 . Just because we know what happens to 600 dollar consoles . Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,108 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Ike said: I think most people are expecting the XSeX to be priced at $599. Nah, IF there is a Lockhart it will be $299, Series X will be $499 (loss) and Microsoft will force Sony into a $399 price point at a loss. Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,770 Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 13 hours ago, DynamiteCop! said: Nah, IF there is a Lockhart it will be $299, Series X will be $499 (loss) and Microsoft will force Sony into a $399 price point at a loss. I don't think that's how it works. The premium models are the ones that are sold at a higher profit / lower loss margins . Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,313 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 So this basically means that Phil Spencer straight up lied when he was questioned about his comments regarding releasing two consoles, he tried to say one of those was the disc-less Xbox SAD. Link to post Share on other sites
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