Microsoft has expressed interest in buying Warner Interactive (Rocksteady, NetherRealm etc.)

[Mr. Impossible 459]

6 minutes ago, Vini said:

Rocksteady owns the rights to a Batman game. If Xbox owns Rocksteady they can make whatever exclusive Batman game they want. That doesn't stop WB from making another Batman game with another developer but MS will have the right to exclusivity on the Rocksteady ones. 

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After Eidos obtained the rights to make a Batman game in spring 2007, they approached Rocksteady who presented their take on the Batman licence, and by May 2007, they had begun developing the concept of Batman: Arkham Asylum, with full production beginning in September 2007.[5][6] The game's commercial and critical success led publisher Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment (WBIE) to acquire an undisclosed majority stake in Rocksteady.[7][8] Eidos retained its 25.1% stake.[4] Rocksteady later became wholly owned by WBIE.[9]

Hmmm, doesn't seem that cut and dry. I'll go on record that if MS buys WBI they wont just get the exclusive rights to a Batman game. 

[Vini 430]

Just now, Liquid said:

Hmmm, doesn't seem that cut and dry. I'll go on record that if MS buys WBI they wont just get the exclusive rights to a Batman game. 

That's not what I said. They will have their own exclusive Batman game made by Rocksteady. Doesn't mean others won't be able to make one. 

[Cell 490]

RcokSteady have disappeared since the Batman games, whatever they're working on they've been doing it for 4 years with nothing released so far. 

[Mr. Impossible 459]

6 minutes ago, Vini said:

That's not what I said. They will have their own exclusive Batman game made by Rocksteady. Doesn't mean others won't be able to make one. 

I wouldn't work that way either. It actually doesnt even make sense since they never actually owned the license to begin with.  It seems they have been contracted to make the games. Of course that license probably lives with WBI and that would probably be some point of contention. To be fair, MS isn't stupid but they are not crazy. I'm sure they would want the rights to the Arkham series if possible and would fight to get that. At best I assume they would retain the rights to the existing games, so at best if this fantasy purchase were to happen they would only be able to rerelease previously made Batman games.

 

 

[Spicalicious 129]

On 2020-07-06 at 8:03 PM, Liquid said:

I'm sure there's an alternative reality where all of the lemming fantasies came true. MS bought EA, Nintendo, Sega, Valve, and Ubisoft. Sony went out of business, all faucets have Mountain Dew, and Sargeant Nelson has an onlyfans 

It's Major Nelson.. Major is way higher rank than Sargent.

[Teh_Diplomat 2,054]

1 hour ago, Spicalicious said:

It's Major Nelson.. Major is way higher rank than Sargent.

You were PM'd and explicitly told not to reply to this post.  

[Spicalicious 129]

5 minutes ago, XBL Matters said:

 

[Mr. Impossible 459]

21 minutes ago, Spicalicious said:

It's Major Nelson.. Major is way higher rank than Sargent.

You have now been knighted.

[Goukosan 2,329]

Lemmings are back to their fantasies thinking they would get the rights to Batman exclusively.  

[Goukosan 2,329]

2 hours ago, Liquid said:

It could happen, but that wouldn't be how it would work. Sony owns the certain rights to Spiderman, which is even Marvel needs Sony to sign off on Spiderman being in the MCU.  So they can develop a Spiderman game on their own. Warner Brothers owns the Batman IP, not Warner Games. MS just can't make their own Batman game without Warner Brothers' say so. 

On Point. 

 

Unless MS is going to purchase Warner Brothers, they're not getting access to Batman exclusively. 

 

Lemming pipe dreams 

[DynamiteCop 2,104]

1 minute ago, Goukosan said:

On Point. 

 

Unless MS is going to purchase Warner Brothers, they're not getting access to Batman exclusively. 

 

Lemming pipe dreams 

AT&T is $154 billion in debt, it wouldn't be hard to broker the IP into the deal. 

[Goukosan 2,329]

20 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said:

AT&T is $154 billion in debt, it wouldn't be hard to broker the IP into the deal. 

That "debt" was an investment aka Purchase of direct TV, Time Warner and to roll out 5G (which is ongoing) 

 

They're not losing money... they're already seeing 25 to 30 billion a year so far from those purchases and they expect that to increase as time does on... and they're currently worth 216 Billion dollars. 

 

Not only that, the rights to Batman don't belong to the WBIE, MS would just be purchasing a development/publishing studio. 

 

Keep dreaming that MS will get batman exclusively 

 

 

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[DynamiteCop 2,104]

7 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

That "debt" was an investment aka Purchase of direct TV, Time Warner and to roll out 5G (which is ongoing) 

 

They're not losing money... they're already seeing 25 to 30 billion a year so far from those purchases and they expect that to increase as time does on... and they're currently worth 216 Billion dollars. 

 

Not only that, the rights to Batman don't belong to the WBIE, MS would just be purchasing a development/publishing studio. 

 

Keep dreaming that MS will get batman exclusively 

 

 

It doesn't matter if it's an investment, they can't sustain themselves without offloading and are in insane debt. It's a long term strategy but it requires short term losses and liquidity they simply don't have so they are desperate for money. 

 

I know exactly who the rights belong to, they belong to AT&T and in a multi-billion dollar deal it wouldn't be some crazed proposition to pick up the publishing rights for DC or Batman related games in the process. 

[Goukosan 2,329]

6 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said:

It doesn't matter if it's an investment, they can't sustain themselves without offloading and are in insane debt. It's a long term strategy but it requires short term losses and liquidity they simply don't have so they are desperate for money. 

 

I know exactly who the rights belong to, they belong to AT&T and in a multi-billion dollar deal it wouldn't be some crazed proposition to pick up the publishing rights for DC or Batman related games in the process. 

Yes it matters if it was an investment because it was a planned "debt" in a long term strategy.   Their strategy is going as planned. 

 

Yes it's a crazed proposition because the rights for Batman aren't currently up for sale.  Comic book IPs value are at an all time high now.

 

Sony and Fox got lucky and were able to purchase long term deals with Marvel for the rights to Spiderman, X-men and Fantastic four.   

 

Those deals were cut when Comic book IPs were at an all time low.   No way in hell is Marvel or any other rights holder to comic IPs will ever do a deal like that again.  

 

Keep dreaming lem kid 

 

 

 

[jehurey 3,312]

This almost certainly wouldn't be any different than Major League Baseball forcing Sony to make MLB The Show a multiplat if they WANT TO CONTINUE the licensing for MLB players/stadiums/teams/etc.

 

Warner Bros/AT&T could sell Microsoft Rocksteady.........and they COULD make a licensing agreement in which WB/AT&T gets a portion of the revenue.

 

But they will almost certainly demand that the game be a multiplat for that they make MORE revenue, right?

 

Why would WB/AT&T, like MLB, enter in an agreement to license out an IP and have a limited sales potential? The whole point for them is to make money by a getting a cut of the revenue for each copy sold.

 

 

[Mr. Impossible 459]

10 hours ago, DynamiteCop! said:

It doesn't matter if it's an investment, they can't sustain themselves without offloading and are in insane debt. It's a long term strategy but it requires short term losses and liquidity they simply don't have so they are desperate for money. 

 

I know exactly who the rights belong to, they belong to AT&T and in a multi-billion dollar deal it wouldn't be some crazed proposition to pick up the publishing rights for DC or Batman related games in the process. 

Xbox stans act like MS is willing to invest any amount of money into Xbox. They are 20 years and 3 generations deep in the game now and a 3rd place system and little runway for Xbox to ever be a sensational brand. They would have to be convinced that the amount of money invested would actually pay off for them. Not only would they have to pay for the studios and publishers and rights for these games, they'd have to then eat the cost of paying salaries, rent, insurance, and other operating expenses of running and owning these studios to get games they would get anyway as multiplats and could just enjoy the royalties on without the investment.