Playstation Tablet 1,857 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 And making F2P free. That's pretty fucking terrible if true. Make it free. With this shit they won't force Sony do shit with mandatory PSN Plus. Link to post Share on other sites
Teh_Diplomat 2,054 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Xbox, the Cleveland Browns of the console wars. Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Yeah, it actually surprised me that they wouldn't have done F2P free already, to maintain parity with Sony. Does that mean that Fortnite required Xbox Live Gold to play online multiplayer these past 3 years? Because if so, that was a massively stupid mistake on behalf of Microsoft. They're way late on fixing that. Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,857 Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 Fuck game pass, 120 bucks to play online is shit. Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 They're trying to corral everybody into $15/month GamePass ultimate. And then they'll say "gee golly with XBL GOld and xCloud included, we really should raise prices" and then bump it up to $20. Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,857 Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 Microsoft can try to shove game pass down as many throats as it can but they don't understand it doesn't appeal to everyone and it's clearly not for everyone. The added value to live for 120 bucks a year is shit IMO. They can fuck themselves. Link to post Share on other sites
Hot Sauce 2,839 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Makes sense. They want Game Pass to be something you sub to month after month, not just when there's a game you want to get for $10. Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,857 Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, Hot Sauce said: Makes sense. They want Game Pass to be something you sub to month after month, not just when there's a game you want to get for $10. Yeah except pc gamers dont have to sub to shit if they bought the xbox game on steam. Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 5,039 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 They aren't forcing gamepass on anyone.. god damn some of you are fucking retarded. Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,857 Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 3 hours ago, HALOmij said: They aren't forcing gamepass on anyone.. god damn some of you are fucking retarded. You apparently need to pay for game pass to play online... Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 5,039 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Team 2019 said: You apparently need to pay for game pass to play online... Nope. Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,158 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Live is going to be made free which will in turn attract a ridiculous amount of people, and xCloud is going to roll into its place within GamePass as the subsidy for it. Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 36 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: Live is going to be made free which will in turn attract a ridiculous amount of people, and xCloud is going to roll into its place within GamePass as the subsidy for it. What do you mean by subsidy? By "rolling it in" with GamePass, at no cost............Microsoft is telling us what they think its currently worth. Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,158 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, jehurey said: What do you mean by subsidy? By "rolling it in" with GamePass, at no cost............Microsoft is telling us what they think its currently worth. They would subsidizing the loss of Live's cost by filling its shoes with another service. Free Live would be a major draw to the platform, and GamePass an incredible value in its place combined with xCloud. Nobody wants your stupid hot takes, Jerry. Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, DynamiteCop! said: They would subsidizing the loss of Live's cost by filling its shoes with another service. Free Live would be a major draw to the platform, and GamePass an incredible value in its place combined with xCloud. Nobody wants your stupid hot takes, Jerry. But they're not making any new money on the service. Not to mention that if GamePass were an incredible value in the first place..............they wouldn't need to be "rolling in" two other services into it at no cost. So...........either there's a price hike incoming, or they're having trouble keeping momentum up. Oh and by the way Disney just announced that they have 60.1 million subscribers on their relatively new Disney+ service. Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 5,039 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, jehurey said: Oh and by the way Disney just announced that they have 60.1 million subscribers on their relatively new Disney+ service. That's really embarrassing..... for Sony and their PSNow service Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, HALOmij said: That's really embarrassing..... for Sony and their PSNow service Judging from their quarterly earnings report............doesn't appear so. Since they're not primarily in the subscription business as their main money-maker. Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 5,039 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, jehurey said: Judging from their quarterly earnings report............doesn't appear so. Since they're not primarily in the subscription business as their main money-maker. But you're not judging quarterly earnings reports here..... you're judging subscriber amounts relative to time on the market. Too late to change goal posts Jehurey. Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, HALOmij said: But you're not judging quarterly earnings reports here..... you're judging subscriber amounts relative to time on the market. Too late to change goal posts Jehurey. No, I am judging two companies who have made subscription models a primary part of their business. Because you are failing notice that Sony would be plainly aware that their focus on selling retail games would affect their streaming business. PSnow only exist on fringes compared to what Sony is really trying to sell you, and putting most of their promotional effort trying to sell you: retail games and physical hardware. That's not the case. Disney+ most directly correlates with GamePass. In everything but the subscription numbers, anyway. LOL Link to post Share on other sites
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