New Yale study; vaccine risk to children is much higher than the virus itself

[Goukosan 2,453]

2 hours ago, Cooke said:

I had a feeling you were going to do this rather than actually acknowledge the data. 

 

So not only is it not a Yale study. It's another unverified (data wise) preprint 

 

 

Edited September 9, 2021 by Goukosan

[Cooke 2,066]

13 minutes ago, Goukosan said:

 

So not only is it not a Yale study. It's another unverified (data wise) preprint 

 

 

Notice I didn't say peer reviewed study? It's preliminary data doofus. 

[Cooke 2,066]

41 minutes ago, jehurey said:

because its a MANDATORY VACCINE, you fucking dumbass.

 

on one side of your mouth, you are literally saying take NO VACCINES...........but on the other side you are trying to take credit for things that are not possible if not for the fact that we instituted 100% MANDATORY VACCINES to every living person on the fucking planet.

 

and they were mandated to ALL PEOPLE AT THE YOUNGEST AGES.

 

AND ITS MULTIPLE DOSES

 

 

Oh my god you have to be obtuse to not be able to tell the difference between a vaccine that lasts a lifetime and one that barely lasts half a year and still allows for transmission and infection. Like come the fuck on jehurey. 

[Goukosan 2,453]

4 minutes ago, Cooke said:

Notice I didn't say peer reviewed study? It's preliminary data doofus. 

 

Exactly, the data is not final and subject to verification. 

 

So why are you parading it as a matter of fact? 

[jehurey 3,318]

1 minute ago, Cooke said:

Oh my god you have to be obtuse to not be able to tell the difference between a vaccine that lasts a lifetime and one that barely lasts half a year and still allows for transmission and infection. Like come the fuck on jehurey. 

Oh really?

 

Tell me the how to make a vaccine last a "lifetime"

 

What do they do, use HIGHER QUALITY vaccine cell walls constructed out of tougher material or something? Same logic applies as building materials?

 

You don't ANYTHING about how a vaccine is made, and how a vaccine is supposed to last.

 

Polio doesn't mutate............that's why the vaccine "lasts" forever. it has nothing to do with how the vaccine was made, but everything to do with the nature of the virus.

 

These coronavirus strains mutate constantly, hence a vaccine cannot lost forever.

 

Holy shit, you are stupid.

[Cooke 2,066]

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

Oh really?

 

Tell me the how to make a vaccine last a "lifetime"

 

What do they do, use HIGHER QUALITY vaccine cell walls constructed out of tougher material or something? Same logic applies as building materials?

 

You don't ANYTHING about how a vaccine is made, and how a vaccine is supposed to last.

 

Polio doesn't mutate............that's why the vaccine "lasts" forever. it has nothing to do with how the vaccine was made, but everything to do with the nature of the virus.

 

These coronavirus strains mutate constantly, hence a vaccine cannot lost forever.

 

Holy shit, you are stupid.

There's a reason we don't mandate flu vaccines. 

 

There's new variants every year and the efficacy is very short, just like the Covid vaccines. 

 

Do I need to spell it out for you again?

 

Polio vaccines IMMUNIZE you from the virus and offers LIFE LONG protection

 

Covid vaccines last 6 months and offer some protections but do not immunize or sterilize or stop you from spreading, contracting etc etc. They are shit vaccines. We need BETTER. 

 

 

 

[jehurey 3,318]

1 minute ago, Cooke said:

There's a reason we don't mandate flu vaccines. 

 

There's new variants every year and the efficacy is very short, just like the Covid vaccines. 

 

Do I need to spell it out for you again?

 

No, flu vaccines are mandated in multiple industries

 

And depending on school district, THEY ARE MANDATORY for your child in school.

 

Those are decided at the STATE LEVEL.

 

You really have trouble getting ANY basic fact correct.

[Cooke 2,066]

1 minute ago, jehurey said:

No, flu vaccines are mandated in multiple industries

 

And depending on school district, THEY ARE MANDATORY for your child in school.

 

Those are decided at the STATE LEVEL.

 

You really have trouble getting ANY basic fact correct.

No they are not mandates to enter restaraunts and sports games and theaters. They are not required to enjoy basic things in life even though it kills children at a far higher rate than covid. It kills 10s of thousands of people yearly and no one bats an eye because we are just used to living with it. We need the same mindset for covid or life is going to be shit for a long long time. 

[jehurey 3,318]

2 minutes ago, Cooke said:

No they are not mandates to enter restaraunts and sports games and theaters.

If there is a pandemic going on...........then yes there is.

 

Sweetie, if everybody got vaccinated, and the infection and hospitalization and death rates went down, then there would be no vaccine mandates being placed and things could go to normal.

 

You're trying to compare COVID19 to the Flu.......................yet again.

 

Even though we've established over 14 months ago that the COVID19 death rate is many times greater than the Flu death rate

 

If COVID 19 death rates goes down to the .0000xx numerical values of the flu, then society will learn to go back to normal WHILE LIVING WITH COVID 19.

 

But that's not happening right now.

[Cooke 2,066]

3 minutes ago, jehurey said:

If there is a pandemic going on...........then yes there is.

 

Sweetie, if everybody got vaccinated, and the infection and hospitalization and death rates went down, then there would be no vaccine mandates being placed and things could go to normal.

 

You're trying to compare COVID19 to the Flu.......................yet again.

 

Even though we've established over 14 months ago that the COVID19 death rate is many times greater than the Flu death rate

 

If COVID 19 death rates goes down to the .0000xx numerical values of the flu, then society will learn to go back to normal WHILE LIVING WITH COVID 19.

 

But that's not happening right now.

Oh here comes the sweetie bullshit. 

 

Kids have a covid fatality rate of 00.0069

 

The vaccine doesn't stop the spread so wtf is the point of giving it to them when we know younger people have more reactions to the vaccine? Why sweetie? Is it worth it to you? Hmm honey bear? 

Edited September 9, 2021 by Cooke

[jehurey 3,318]

3 minutes ago, Cooke said:

Oh here comes the sweetie bullshit. 

 

Kids have a covid fatality rate of 00.0069

 

 

Nope.

 

That stat just got thrown out the window:

 

 

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Mississippi Baby Dies of COVID; Child Deaths In Past 45 Days Exceed Prior 17 Months

• by Ashton Pittman
• September 8, 2021

https://www.mississippifreepress.org/15681/mississippi-baby-dies-of-covid-child-deaths-in-past-45-days-exceed-prior-17-months/

 

And this is why the situation is requiring vaccine mandate.

 

Because if this virus mutates into something EVEN WORSE, we may not be able to control it with the existing vaccines that we have now.

We would have to develop a NEW vaccine, all over again. New rounds of testing all over again, another 14 to 18 months, and we couldn't guarantee that the efficacy rate would be as high.

[Cooke 2,066]

Alright carebear. I'll come back with BC is 90% fully vaxxed and the virus is still raging. 

[Cooke 2,066]

6 minutes ago, jehurey said:

Nope.

 

That stat just got thrown out the window:

 

 

 

And this is why the situation is requiring vaccine mandate.

 

Because if this virus mutates into something EVEN WORSE, we may not be able to control it with the existing vaccines that we have now.

We would have to develop a NEW vaccine, all over again. New rounds of testing all over again, another 14 to 18 months, and we couldn't guarantee that the efficacy rate would be as high.

This does not effect national numbers and Mississippi is the most obese state in your country. We know obesity is the number 1 covid morbidity. People should care about their health a little more than just getting a vaccine shot and everything will be peachy. We need a big picture approach which is clearly lacking. 

[jehurey 3,318]

11 minutes ago, Cooke said:

This does not effect national numbers

yes it does.

 

and its occuring in all other states that are having hospitalization crisis, as well.

 

Your data is quickly on its way to becoming outdated.

There is no side effect from the vaccines that is more dangerous or lethal than what is now happening with the Delta strain hitting unvaccinated children.

 

The vaccine is not worse than the virus. Its as simple as that.

 

And any future implementation of these mRNA vaccines will be done just like with ALL OTHER MAJOR VACCINES.

 

They will be given to CHILDREN at young ages.

[Cooke 2,066]

29 minutes ago, jehurey said:

yes it does.

 

and its occuring in all other states that are having hospitalization crisis, as well.

 

Your data is quickly on its way to becoming outdated.

There is no side effect from the vaccines that is more dangerous or lethal than what is now happening with the Delta strain hitting unvaccinated children.

 

The vaccine is not worse than the virus. Its as simple as that.

 

And any future implementation of these mRNA vaccines will be done just like with ALL OTHER MAJOR VACCINES.

 

They will be given to CHILDREN at young ages.

Why do you isolate one sentence from things I say and disregard everything else? 

[Cooke 2,066]

29 minutes ago, jehurey said:

yes it does.

 

and its occuring in all other states that are having hospitalization crisis, as well.

 

Your data is quickly on its way to becoming outdated.

There is no side effect from the vaccines that is more dangerous or lethal than what is now happening with the Delta strain hitting unvaccinated children.

 

The vaccine is not worse than the virus. Its as simple as that.

 

And any future implementation of these mRNA vaccines will be done just like with ALL OTHER MAJOR VACCINES.

 

They will be given to CHILDREN at young ages.

We have never given mRNA vaccines to children before. Would you let Pfizer use your child as a test subject for them? 

[jehurey 3,318]

1 minute ago, Cooke said:

Why do you isolate one sentence from things I say and disregard everything else? 

Because you are wrong beginning from that point, and therefore the rest of your post doesn't matter, because its based on FUNDAMENTAL assertions.......that are wrong.

 

1 minute ago, Cooke said:

We have never given mRNA vaccines to children before. Would you let Pfizer use your child as a test subject for them? 

We have never given mRNA vaccines to adults before..........and they passed with flying colors with LESS side-effects than traditional vaccines.

 

Sweetie.....mRNA based vaccines are a success. There is no debate on this subject.

 

Here's a fact for you:

 

“Side-effects nearly always occur within a couple of weeks of a person being vaccinated,” says John Grabenstein, director of scientific communication for the Immunization Action Coalition. He adds that the longest time before a side effect appeared for any type of shot has been six weeks.

 

There has never been a NEW, UNDISCOVERED side-effect from ANY VACCINE past two months.................ever.

 

For ANY VACCINE ever made and tested and administered.......................ever.

 

In the entire HISTORY of vaccine creation.

 

Sweetie, get this through your fucking skull.

 

There are NO

LONG

TERM

EFFECTS

 

of mRNA vaccine technology that we haven't already seen. Its passed with flying colors. This is going to be the way all new vaccines will be created from this point forward.

[Cooke 2,066]

1 hour ago, jehurey said:

Because you are wrong beginning from that point, and therefore the rest of your post doesn't matter, because its based on FUNDAMENTAL assertions.......that are wrong.

 

We have never given mRNA vaccines to adults before..........and they passed with flying colors with LESS side-effects than traditional vaccines.

 

Sweetie.....mRNA based vaccines are a success. There is no debate on this subject.

 

Here's a fact for you:

 

“Side-effects nearly always occur within a couple of weeks of a person being vaccinated,” says John Grabenstein, director of scientific communication for the Immunization Action Coalition. He adds that the longest time before a side effect appeared for any type of shot has been six weeks.

 

There has never been a NEW, UNDISCOVERED side-effect from ANY VACCINE past two months.................ever.

 

For ANY VACCINE ever made and tested and administered.......................ever.

 

In the entire HISTORY of vaccine creation.

 

Sweetie, get this through your fucking skull.

 

There are NO

LONG

TERM

EFFECTS

 

of mRNA vaccine technology that we haven't already seen. Its passed with flying colors. This is going to be the way all new vaccines will be created from this point forward.

How do you know there are no long term effects sweetie It's only been 8 months sweetie. Sweetie you just know everything. Aww sweetie, I hope that spike protein in your shoulder doesn't break off the injection site and lodge in your prostate or ovaries sweetie  🙂

Edited September 10, 2021 by Cooke

[jehurey 3,318]

22 minutes ago, Cooke said:

How do you know there are no long term effects sweetie It's only been 8 months sweetie.

i love how you didn't read what I posted:

 

Quote

 

Here's a fact for you:

 

“Side-effects nearly always occur within a couple of weeks of a person being vaccinated,” says John Grabenstein, director of scientific communication for the Immunization Action Coalition. He adds that the longest time before a side effect appeared for any type of shot has been six weeks.

 

There has never been a NEW, UNDISCOVERED side-effect from ANY VACCINE past two months.................ever.

 

For ANY VACCINE ever made and tested and administered.......................ever.

 

In the entire HISTORY of vaccine creation.

 

 

so to answer question.

 

we know there are no long term effects

 

because 8 months is greater than 2 months.

 

thanks for accentuating the fact that I (re)posted.

[Cooke 2,066]

53 minutes ago, jehurey said:

i love how you didn't read what I posted:

 

 

so to answer question.

 

we know there are no long term effects

 

because 8 months is greater than 2 months.

 

thanks for accentuating the fact that I (re)posted.

Side effects in "traditional adenovirus vaccines" you mean. These are the first mRNA vaccines which have no long term effects studies sweetie pie.