Remij 5,089 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 There's multiple new products on the horizon, which could help explain some of it. The economy of course.. But still, that's not good. Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,496 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 They need a more compelling GPU. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 5,089 Posted May 1 Author Share Posted May 1 2 minutes ago, lynux3 said: They need a more compelling GPU. Rumors surrounding their upcoming GPUs don't sound too hot either. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 3,061 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Ps5 and series x should be 349 msrp at this point. Series s should be 200 bucks. They fucked themselves with the pricing. Also all the big AAA ganes are the same shit over and over. And most of the time they run like trash. Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,832 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Consolidation and retraction time after the explosion of growth from the pandemic where gaming businesses somehow expected that level of engagement forever. Also, everything is down, most economies in recession or artificially prevented ones. Most people simply have less disposable income. Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,393 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) economy is fine for anyone with a decent worth ethic + not 500 kids Anyone with half a brain went PC or is a Nintendo only gamer. Nintendo is the only one who offers unique product on a console front. PS and Xbox are PC lite and have been for 20+ years. Most people are catching on. Hell, the lack of paid online means the cost will be paid off over time alone. PC sales will forever look weak due to piracy. Edited May 1 by Tears of the Cows Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,393 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) I still believe consoles should move to cell phone model. New console yearly, 3-5 years of support for each console with vague promises so you’re not held to it, emphasis on trade in programs, etc I mean it can definitely be done, but can it be done on “small” scale? Apple shipped 230+ million iPhones in 2023. Xbox… even PS, would be lucky to do 20? Not sure if that’s even sustainable. Edited May 1 by Tears of the Cows Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,832 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 6 minutes ago, Tears of the Cows said: economy is fine for anyone with a decent worth ethic + not 500 kids Anyone with half a brain went PC or is a Nintendo only gamer. Nintendo is the only one who offers unique product on a console front. PS and Xbox are PC lite and have been for 20+ years. Most people are catching on. Hell, the lack of paid online means the cost will be paid off over time alone. PC sales will forever look weak due to piracy. Economy is so far from fine it's not even funny. I'm not even talking personally because thankfully I'm a lot more fortunate than most but to say it's a pure work ethic thing is bs. Many many people working at max capacity but rise of costs far exceed what they can keep up with. It's not subjective that overall the far majority of ppl have had their disposable income heavily reduced in recent years. That impacts practically everything that is non necessity. Go look at how many small business are closing down, look at nearly every entertainment sector, at the resturant sector, at tech sector, etc. It's all down. It has nothing to do with product or quality or anything. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 3,061 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 People our age are prob doing ok. Our kids are older , our houses paid off , our careers we have been there long. I feel bad for the youth though, damn. All the younger people I know are on the struggle bus and don't know what to do. Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,832 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Just now, JonDnD said: People our age are prob doing ok. Our kids are older , our houses paid off , our careers we have been there long. I feel bad for the youth though, damn. All the younger people I know are on the struggle bus and don't know what to do. They're the first gen that has it harder than the gen before it. Don't even know how most will manage and nearly none of it is their fault. Link to post Share on other sites
JonDnD 3,061 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 All the younger couples I know , making over 100k a year are struggling. If I was making 100k when I was 21 I'd be driving around in a porche flexing 1 Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,832 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 17 minutes ago, JonDnD said: All the younger couples I know , making over 100k a year are struggling. If I was making 100k when I was 21 I'd be driving around in a porche flexing 100K the new 50K lol Need about 250K now to live like 100K of our youth 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,393 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) 45 minutes ago, madmaltese said: Economy is so far from fine it's not even funny. I'm not even talking personally because thankfully I'm a lot more fortunate than most but to say it's a pure work ethic thing is bs. Many many people working at max capacity but rise of costs far exceed what they can keep up with. It's not subjective that overall the far majority of ppl have had their disposable income heavily reduced in recent years. That impacts practically everything that is non necessity. Go look at how many small business are closing down, look at nearly every entertainment sector, at the resturant sector, at tech sector, etc. It's all down. It has nothing to do with product or quality or anything. Then people are dumb… we are in the digital age, companies give out coupons like wild fire. You should never buy a product at full price. I’m not talking about fast food workers. Those are meant to be for high schoolers. if you’re good with a computer you have no excuse. Anyone born after 1980 can self learn a computer the price of goods have gone up but if you’re a cheap fuck there’s always ways around it. Every company has a rewards program these days Edited May 1 by Tears of the Cows Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,832 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 12 minutes ago, Tears of the Cows said: Then people are dumb… we are in the digital age, companies give out coupons like wild fire. You should never buy a product at full price. I’m not talking about fast food workers. Those are meant to be for high schoolers. if you’re good with a computer you have no excuse. Anyone born after 1980 can self learn a computer the price of goods have gone up but if you’re a cheap fuck there’s always ways around it. Every company has a rewards program these days You don't really seem to get it though, all the things you are mentioning still involve spending money. I'm saying most people quite literally don't have disposable income. Electricity up literally 100%+ in many countries. Mortgages/Interest rates up tremendously worldwide (so Rent also up tremendously). Basic groceries/food items up like 30-50%, etc. All these things mean less spending on non necessities. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,393 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, madmaltese said: You don't really seem to get it though, all the things you are mentioning still involve spending money. I'm saying most people quite literally don't have disposable income. Electricity up literally 100%+ in many countries. Mortgages/Interest rates up tremendously worldwide (so Rent also up tremendously). Basic groceries/food items up like 30-50%, etc. All these things mean less spending on non necessities. It’s not hard to make a decent living. Tho I speak based on my upbringing, I’ll always find a way. Drop me in South Africa and I’ll sell maize. I get different people are brought up with different skill sets. Today digital awareness is everything. Actually, it’s really all you need. Obviously all of us are good enough with computers - but the people I see lacking all have one thing in common, they didn’t switch over to the digital age or are on drugs. Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,832 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 2 minutes ago, Tears of the Cows said: It’s not hard to make a decent living. Tho I speak based on my upbringing, I’ll always find a way. Drop me in South Africa and I’ll sell maize. I get different people are brought up with different skill sets. Today digital awareness is everything. Actually, it’s really all you need. Obviously all of us are good enough with computers - but the people I see lacking all have one thing in common, they didn’t switch over to the digital age or are on drugs. Don't know if I agree man, most of the people I see struggling are young and very digitally capable. In fact have known nothing but the digital age. Meanwhlie the gen older than me that knew nothing digital are all doing great. Properties and any land they bought for dirt cheap worth 10-20x in value. Grew up in the greatest generation of wealth creation ever, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
jehurey 3,318 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) 53 minutes ago, madmaltese said: Don't know if I agree man, most of the people I see struggling are young and very digitally capable. In fact have known nothing but the digital age. Meanwhlie the gen older than me that knew nothing digital are all doing great. Properties and any land they bought for dirt cheap worth 10-20x in value. Grew up in the greatest generation of wealth creation ever, etc. bald cuck dick tucky really is a complete moron. he's literally saying shit that 70 year olds are saying "why can't you do something with TEH computers for money?" that loser has a cubicle job selling insurance Edited May 1 by jehurey Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,496 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 hour ago, JonDnD said: All the younger couples I know , making over 100k a year are struggling. If I was making 100k when I was 21 I'd be driving around in a porche flexing You mean when it was affordable? 😅 Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,393 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, madmaltese said: Don't know if I agree man, most of the people I see struggling are young and very digitally capable. In fact have known nothing but the digital age. Meanwhlie the gen older than me that knew nothing digital are all doing great. Properties and any land they bought for dirt cheap worth 10-20x in value. Grew up in the greatest generation of wealth creation ever, etc. if they know how to use a computer… what is the excuse? You don’t even need a job lmao. Find random one off jobs or re-sell products on marketplaces??? anyone can do it if you’re computer savvy and not making money you’re literally mentally challenged or more likely, lazy. It’s common sense. Not sure what else to say. You can learn any skill for free online.. no one has an excuse other than saying they’re lazy. All knowledge is for free. Edited May 1 by Tears of the Cows Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 1,393 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 45 minutes ago, jehurey said: bald cuck dick tucky really is a complete moron. he's literally saying shit that 70 year olds are saying "why can't you do something with TEH computers for money?" that loser has a cubicle job selling insurance ^15 year secretary making 43k a year in his mid 40s obvious mental issues, should be claiming disability but too proud ^ Link to post Share on other sites
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