Ukrainian Russo war - the thread V2.

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‼️🇨🇳🇺🇦 China will not participate in the summit on Ukraine in Switzerland - Reuters

▪️Beijing rejected the invitation because its key condition was not met - participation in the summit simultaneously of Ukraine and Russia.
▪️Among other conditions of China was “a fair discussion of all proposals.”

China wants Ukraine smashed as a USA proxy for the multipolar world

[Playstation Tablet 1,770]

Poll: 71% of Russians think country is on right path, 87% approve of Putin - Levada

 

 

Denazification and demlitarization the goals of the Special Military Operation will be achieved.

[Hot Sauce 2,753]

5 hours ago, Playstation Tablet said:

Poll: 71% of Russians think country is on right path, 87% approve of Putin - Levada

 

 

Denazification and demlitarization the goals of the Special Military Operation will be achieved.

 

From 123% to 87% approval. Russia is basically in full revolt.

[Twinblade★ 4,061]

Vatniks tried a blietkrieg to Kharkiv and got bogged down in a city on the border they were supposed to capture in 2 days….3 weeks ago and still only control 30% of it. They’re also completely stuck on the south and east, and are sustaining more losses than they’ve had in months thanks to the arrival of fresh U.S munitions
 

‘The goals will be achieved!!1’

[David P 120]

Regardless what Kidblade says, the Russians aren't bogged down. They made considerable progress and wreaked considerable havoc on Ukraine in May, showing vast superiority in manpower and arsenal.

 

There's a reason why NATO secretary general plead for other NATO countries to give Ukraine the green light for strikes in Russian territories with long range missiles, there's a reason why Zelensky is pleading for 7 more patriot systems and that reason, whatever it is, is not because they are doing well on the frontline. 

 

The war is escalating with regular nuclear threats coming from Russia, several red lines has been crossed already. US is planning to deploy nuclear capable submarines has a deterrent. 

 

This war is not going well for Ukraine. This is the reality. Russia has significant losses but nothing they can't absorb, there are over 100k fighting men gathering in Belgorod right now. Ukraine has already deployed it's reserves. 

 

 

[Cooke 2,045]

So should Ukraine negotiate a peace agreement now or wait until they are completely destroyed and have no men left to right? Or should the women be sent in next? 

[Twinblade★ 4,061]

14 minutes ago, Cooke said:

So should Ukraine negotiate a peace agreement now or wait until they are completely destroyed and have no men left to right? Or should the women be sent in next? 

Dude, give it a rest. If people just read your posts and ignored everything else they would have assumed Ukraine had collapsed 10 times over the last 2 and a half years. Also FYI, they're hosting a peace summit in Switzerland soon. Maybe you should ask Russia when they plan on starting their own peace initiatives if thats also what they want? Or are you just going to continue pushing their propaganda for free?

[Cooke 2,045]

13 hours ago, Twinblade said:

Dude, give it a rest. If people just read your posts and ignored everything else they would have assumed Ukraine had collapsed 10 times over the last 2 and a half years. Also FYI, they're hosting a peace summit in Switzerland soon. Maybe you should ask Russia when they plan on starting their own peace initiatives if thats also what they want? Or are you just going to continue pushing their propaganda for free?

You really don't care about the people involved at all do you? It's just a simulation for you. 

[Hot Sauce 2,753]

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/30/europe/russia-sexual-violence-occupied-ukraine-intl-cmd/index.html

 

I thought Aza was just weird with his thing for trannies and rape fantasies, but it turns out wanting to rape men is just a fundamental desire for Russian men. What a fucked up group of people.

[David P 120]

Seen some stuff that made me change my mind on how the war is going. These long range strikes in Russian territories might actually have been a game changer. There were a massive gathering of troops in Belgorod and apparently they are now scattered due to atacms missiles strikes. Severely changing the situation on a strategic level with a simple move, albeit it's quite the redline crossing. 

 

Also long range strikes on ICBM satellites sites for detecting ICBMs (nukes)... This is crazy and no one is talking about it. 

 

 

[Twinblade★ 4,061]

15 hours ago, David P said:

Seen some stuff that made me change my mind on how the war is going. These long range strikes in Russian territories might actually have been a game changer. There were a massive gathering of troops in Belgorod and apparently they are now scattered due to atacms missiles strikes. Severely changing the situation on a strategic level with a simple move, albeit it's quite the redline crossing. 

 

Also long range strikes on ICBM satellites sites for detecting ICBMs (nukes)... This is crazy and no one is talking about it. 

 

 

 Russians are now using motorcycles more often to assault Ukrainian positions. They have no protection and are often immediately taken out by drones and machine gun fire. That should tell you all you need to know about how the war is going. They have catastrophic losses in armored vehicles and have no choice but to resort to these mind boggling tactics that does nothing but guarantee more losses for them.

[David P 120]

29 minutes ago, Twinblade said:

 Russians are now using motorcycles more often to assault Ukrainian positions. They have no protection and are often immediately taken out by drones and machine gun fire. That should tell you all you need to know about how the war is going. They have catastrophic losses in armored vehicles and have no choice but to resort to these mind boggling tactics that does nothing but guarantee more losses for them.

Everything gets taken out by FPV drones though. Armored tanks like the m1 abrams included. 

[Twinblade★ 4,061]

10 minutes ago, David P said:

Everything gets taken out by FPV drones though. Armored tanks like the m1 abrams included. 

 
Except human lives matter the most. The Ukranian crews of western made vehicles often survive even when they’re taken out. Meanwhile Russians who get into Soviet era vehicles and now onto motorcycles are guaranteed to die. Russia has more people but they will reach a breaking point where they can’t afford to throw away the lives of their soldiers like this.

[David P 120]

4 minutes ago, Twinblade said:

 
Except human lives matter the most. The Ukranian crews of western made vehicles often survive even when they’re taken out. Meanwhile Russians who get into Soviet era vehicles and now onto motorcycles are guaranteed to die. Russia has more people but they will reach a breaking point where they can’t afford to throw away the lives of their soldiers like this.

Point valid for the motorcycle or atv shit. But plenty of Russian crews survives too. It's common occurrence on both side to see crews run away from burning vehicles which explodes soon later. Pretty sure if we were to compare survivability from drones strikes on armored vehicles, tanks and self propelled howitzers it would be very similar on both sides. Western armored vehicles have been pretty underwhelming, there's nothing special about them. At least the ones that were given to Ukraine. 

 

Who can afford to lose the most vehicles seem to matter almost more than human lives, not saying that on a moral standpoint obviously but tactically speaking and the impact it has on the field. Although Russians losses in may have been considerable to say the least if we are to believe the 40k figure. 

[Twinblade★ 4,061]

On 2024-06-08 at 2:58 PM, David P said:

Point valid for the motorcycle or atv shit. But plenty of Russian crews survives too. It's common occurrence on both side to see crews run away from burning vehicles which explodes soon later. Pretty sure if we were to compare survivability from drones strikes on armored vehicles, tanks and self propelled howitzers it would be very similar on both sides. Western armored vehicles have been pretty underwhelming, there's nothing special about them. At least the ones that were given to Ukraine. 

 

Who can afford to lose the most vehicles seem to matter almost more than human lives, not saying that on a moral standpoint obviously but tactically speaking and the impact it has on the field. Although Russians losses in may have been considerable to say the least if we are to believe the 40k figure. 

 

No way. There is plenty of footage of western armored vehicles being far more resilient and protecting their crews from both small arms fire and explosives. Ukranian soldiers have also gushed repeatedly about them, especially the bradleys which are light years better than the Soviet Union equivalents and probably the best overall ground vehicle currently used in the war.

[David P 120]

13 hours ago, Twinblade said:

 

No way. There is plenty of footage of western armored vehicles being far more resilient and protecting their crews from both small arms fire and explosives. Ukranian soldiers have also gushed repeatedly about them, especially the bradleys which are light years better than the Soviet Union equivalents and probably the best overall ground vehicle currently used in the war.

I've seen enough blowing up from lancets to know they are not invincible or particularly great. The electronics gets damaged just the same, abandoned tanks and apcs litter the field from both sides. Agree to disagree. 

[Twinblade★ 4,061]

22 minutes ago, David P said:

I've seen enough blowing up from lancets to know they are not invincible or particularly great. The electronics gets damaged just the same, abandoned tanks and apcs litter the field from both sides. Agree to disagree. 

 

I've seen plenty of footage of the opposite. Bradleys surviving mines, lancets, and even direct tank shells. I sure as hell haven't seen many western vehicles exploding in massive balls of fire due to ammunition detonation like a countless amount of Russian tanks, thats for sure.

[lynux3 2,237]

Rofl, the Kharkiv offensive has basically stalled after just over a month and turned into a shooting gallery for Ukraine.  Fuckin' Russkies.

[Twinblade★ 4,061]

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1801565983779222002

 

Putin is truly one delusional cunt. Unfortunately its becoming more clear that the only reasonable path to peace is the defeat of Russia's weakened military or Putin dropping dead. 

[David P 120]

G7 to pay another 50b to Ukraine. Mostly from Russian frozen assets I think.

 

Saudi Arabia gonna stop use other currencies than the US dollars for selling oil. The schism this war is provoking is risking the whole western hegemony we had for decades. Other nations won't forget this, they already didn't like the west for constantly ruining their shit. Xi is in bed with Putin more than ever behind the facade the CCP is trying to maintain, their economy trades has increased significantly.