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On 2024-06-14 at 10:57 AM, lynux3 said:

Rofl, the Kharkiv offensive has basically stalled after just over a month and turned into a shooting gallery for Ukraine. :D Fuckin' Russkies.

I haven't followed what is going on the field much in the past few days/weeks. Certainly no major advances/breakthroughs. It just isn't happening no do I expect it. 

 

When Russian MoD says they capture xxxKm square it sounds good on paper, until you look at the fucking war map and you realize it's just a few pockets of a few kms each advances where Russian usually suffer great losses to get in the first place.

 

Not sure Ukraine can keep sustaining manpower losses though, more so than Russia. I mean if they could make a comeback in WW2 with million of dead men, I'm not sure how they can't absorb their losses, as significant as they apparently are. I heard 40k losses for Russia in May. 

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You tried to take the whole country in 3 days and instead you're now trying to sue for peace with a slither if the easy. You're losing a reported up to 1000 a day right now plus a significant number o

On 2024-06-14 at 1:22 PM, Twinblade said:

https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1801565983779222002

 

Putin is truly one delusional cunt. Unfortunately its becoming more clear that the only reasonable path to peace is the defeat of Russia's weakened military or Putin dropping dead. 

Give me Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, Zaporizhzia and we're cool, pinky swear! And no NATO!

 

Well, the man know what he wants. LMAO.

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2 hours ago, David P said:

I haven't followed what is going on the field much in the past few days/weeks. Certainly no major advances/breakthroughs. It just isn't happening no do I expect it. 

 

When Russian MoD says they capture xxxKm square it sounds good on paper, until you look at the fucking war map and you realize it's just a few pockets of a few kms each advances where Russian usually suffer great losses to get in the first place.

 

Not sure Ukraine can keep sustaining manpower losses though, more so than Russia. I mean if they could make a comeback in WW2 with million of dead men, I'm not sure how they can't absorb their losses, as significant as they apparently are. I heard 40k losses for Russia in May. 

 

The Soviet Union was a industrial powerhouse during WW2. Modern Russia is not. This is why they have to beg for junk from places like China, Iran, and North Korea. NATO has already said they're going to be able to match Russia's artillery ammunition production next year, as well as boosting production of pretty much every other munition out there. 

 

Its only a matter of time before the balance of power shifts. And unlike the Soviet Union Russia can't afford anywhere near as many losses as they sustained during WW2, once volunteer numbers drop and Putin is forced to do another wave of mobilization he is pretty much done for. And even with equipment and manpower shortages Ukraine still has the capacity to counterattack and regain lost positions if you check the recent map updates.

 

The only wild card right now is Trump. I think if he gets elected he could do some real damage and sink Ukraine's chances of winning the war.

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10 minutes ago, Twinblade said:

 

The Soviet Union was a industrial powerhouse during WW2. Modern Russia is not. This is why they have to beg for junk from places like China, Iran, and North Korea. NATO has already said they're going to be able to match Russia's artillery ammunition production next year, as well as boosting production of pretty much every other munition out there. 

 

Its only a matter of time before the balance of power shifts. And unlike the Soviet Union Russia can't afford anywhere near as many losses as they sustained during WW2, once volunteer numbers drop and Putin is forced to do another wave of mobilization he is pretty much done for. And even with equipment and manpower shortages Ukraine still has the capacity to counterattack and regain lost positions if you check the recent map updates.

 

The only wild card right now is Trump. I think if he gets elected he could do some real damage and sink Ukraine's chances of winning the war.

I find that hard to believe. Even if all NATO countries started outmatching Russia in the arms race that doesn't mean Ukraine is going to get all those shells. I'm not expecting a power shift based on weapons delivery alone anyway. 

 

Manpower is going to dictate this war of attrition at this point. Strikes in Russia and the arrival of fighter jets are the last gambles. What else can NATO do?

 

Good, I hope Trump wins.

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54 minutes ago, David P said:

I find that hard to believe. Even if all NATO countries started outmatching Russia in the arms race that doesn't mean Ukraine is going to get all those shells. I'm not expecting a power shift based on weapons delivery alone anyway. 

 

Manpower is going to dictate this war of attrition at this point. Strikes in Russia and the arrival of fighter jets are the last gambles. What else can NATO do?

 

Good, I hope Trump wins.

 

Hey at least you finally stopped pretending :umad:

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11 hours ago, David P said:

I find that hard to believe. Even if all NATO countries started outmatching Russia in the arms race that doesn't mean Ukraine is going to get all those shells. I'm not expecting a power shift based on weapons delivery alone anyway. 

 

Manpower is going to dictate this war of attrition at this point. Strikes in Russia and the arrival of fighter jets are the last gambles. What else can NATO do?

 

Good, I hope Trump wins.

 
yes, we know you’ve pro-Russia for a while now. You don’t have to even bother admitting it.

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4 minutes ago, Twinblade said:

 
yes, we know you’ve pro-Russia for a while now. You don’t have to even bother admitting it.

Is that supposed to be an insult?

 

I wouldn't send 250 billion dollars of our tax dollars to Russia.

 

I'm pro Quebecois. Why should the faith of Zelensky regime be our responsibility? I'll tell you: no reason whatsoever.  Nor is it the job of US tax payers to save Zelensky regime. 

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I've been thinking lately, if you took the nukes out and just had a straight fight between Russia and the US/NATO, good lord it would be a blood bath. Russian has proven that western tanks are not invincible for sure. Knocking out a challenger tank was a big deal considering no one has done so in 40 years, but on the other side Russian has lost THOUSANDS of tanks and AFV's from donations of fairly modern western kit handed over disorganised in a fashion. You have pieces of everything from Europe and NATO given to people with recent training on its use. Imagine if Russian found itself against a combined arms formation against just the US/UK. I have no doubt they would get absolutely slammed. Russian stalled the infamous spring offensive with images circulated of knocked out Bradley's and Leopards, but if NATO tried something like that it wouldn't just be tanks driving at the Russian lines. Imagine the artillery and intel kit that would back it all up, along with the air superiority. Decades of huge investment into the military industrial complex would show its ugly worth - Russian tanks can barely fight at night time FFS while western equivalents can take them out from miles away in almost all conditions. Russian would get bodied. 
 

 

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Russia concedes defeat in Black Sea, withdraws remaining fleet in retreat from Crimea, over to the east end of the Sea in Abkhazia (part of Georgia that Russia invaded and illegally holds). 

 

Ukraine has WON the naval war for the Black Sea.

 

Though it has no major warships at its disposal, Ukraine has used missiles and naval drones to inflict significant damage to the Russian Black Sea Fleet, which has long been headquartered in Sevastopol on the peninsula seized by Moscow in 2014

 

Vice-Admiral Oleksiy Neizhpapa, Ukraine's navy chief, told Reuters earlier this month that Russia had been forced to rebase nearly all its combat-ready warships from occupied Crimea.

 

"The last patrol ship of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation is bolting from our Crimea just now. Remember this day," 

 

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20 hours ago, Playstation Tablet said:

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Gtfo with this nonsense :D Julian is a known fear monger and that estimate is not based in reality. Russia is literally throwing everything they can at the frontlines right now with no regard to the lives of their soldiers or the equipment they’re losing. To think they can keep up this pace is laughable. They have had a bit of success in a single direction, all coming at an insane cost (even Russian military bloggers frequently doom post about their losses and demographic issues). And this is all deliberate so they can have some kind of high ground to negotiate after the U.S elections.
 

After 2 and a half years you should know better by now.

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