Substatic 423 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 16 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said: Hunter is a Class B felon, Biased DOJ! Rigged trial! Deleted the jury system! Dox the jurors! Civil War!!!! Is what I would say if I was in a cult. But I'm not, so I'll say good fuck Hunter. See how easy that is? Edited June 14 by Substatic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Substatic 423 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 12 minutes ago, Mr. Impossible said: an individual leave a state with the specific intent to avoid prosecution, the new definition would only prevent those with a particular state of mind from buying guns. That’s incredibly difficult to prove. But Trump’s move isn’t just dangerous, it’s also unlawful. The definition change is a departure from long-standing FBI practice, and it came without notice or opportunity for public input, much less any explanation of how to prove the fugitive’s state of mind—a violation of the Administrative Procedure Act. He illegally purged 500,000 records from the federal background check system. Trump didn’t just narrow the definition of “fugitives from justice”: the Administration also removed all existing records in the federal background check system identifying fugitives who would be prohibited from purchasing guns. When Trump took office, the background check system contained entries for nearly 500,000 people who had been flagged as “fugitives from justice.” They purged all these records, and to date have only restored, about 1,000 entries under the category. The FBI is required, including by its own regulations, to maintain this critically important database. The Administration’s reckless conduct in purging these records constitutes a failure to meet its obligations under federal law. Federal law prohibits the sale of a firearm to any person who has been “adjudicated as a mental defective” or “committed to a mental institution.” Those terms are old and unclear, and as a result, there are gaping loopholes in our gun laws. In 2014, DOJ proposed a rule to fix this problem and prohibit certain people from buying guns, including those “committed to an outpatient mental institution,” “found incompetent to stand trial…in state, local and military courts,” and “found guilty but mentally ill by a court.” This important change would have kept guns out of the hands of those who are dangerous because of serious mental illness, but the gun lobby opposed the change. So instead of finalizing the rule, President Trump stopped it in its tracks Lmao fucking rekt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 464 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 30 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said: What Republican wants drug addicts who lie on their 4473 to obtain or possess guns? You live in a fantasy land. Where are the republicans trying to take this man's guns away? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,107 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 hour ago, Mr. Impossible said: an individual leave a state with the specific intent to avoid prosecution, the new definition would only prevent those with a particular state of mind from buying guns. That’s incredibly difficult to prove. But Trump’s move isn’t just dangerous, it’s also unlawful. The definition change is a departure from long-standing FBI practice, and it came without notice or opportunity for public input, much less any explanation of how to prove the fugitive’s state of mind—a violation of the Administrative Procedure Act. He illegally purged 500,000 records from the federal background check system. Trump didn’t just narrow the definition of “fugitives from justice”: the Administration also removed all existing records in the federal background check system identifying fugitives who would be prohibited from purchasing guns. When Trump took office, the background check system contained entries for nearly 500,000 people who had been flagged as “fugitives from justice.” They purged all these records, and to date have only restored, about 1,000 entries under the category. The FBI is required, including by its own regulations, to maintain this critically important database. The Administration’s reckless conduct in purging these records constitutes a failure to meet its obligations under federal law. Federal law prohibits the sale of a firearm to any person who has been “adjudicated as a mental defective” or “committed to a mental institution.” Those terms are old and unclear, and as a result, there are gaping loopholes in our gun laws. In 2014, DOJ proposed a rule to fix this problem and prohibit certain people from buying guns, including those “committed to an outpatient mental institution,” “found incompetent to stand trial…in state, local and military courts,” and “found guilty but mentally ill by a court.” This important change would have kept guns out of the hands of those who are dangerous because of serious mental illness, but the gun lobby opposed the change. So instead of finalizing the rule, President Trump stopped it in its tracks This is a half true and you're trying to act like you had something. You're talking to a "gun nut" you fucking imbecile, I'll bury you at every turn. The FBI and ATF disagreed on the definition of what a fugitive of justice was causing a clear contradiction between agencies. The Trump administration sided with the ATF definition. The end, full stop. It's not that controversial. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 464 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said: This is a half true and you're trying to act like you had something. You're talking to a "gun nut" you fucking imbecile, I'll bury you at every turn. The FBI and ATF disagreed on the definition of what a fugitive of justice was causing a clear contradiction between agencies. The Trump administration sided with the ATF definition. The end, full stop. It's not that controversial. That changes what exactly? That he went with the worse option? And lol at being a gun nut like they aren't some of the dumbest people in the country. Edited June 14 by Mr. Impossible Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,107 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just now, Mr. Impossible said: That changes what exactly? That he went with the worse option? Worse? That's your opinion. The FBI definition was far too broad and restricted firearms rights from people with FTA warrants and other nonsensical legal issues. You could be restricted for parking ticket warrants lmao. Is the ATF definition perfect? By no means, but it falls into line with the constitution far more that what the FBI had on the books. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,107 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 15 minutes ago, Mr. Impossible said: And lol at being a gun nut like they aren't some of the dumbest people in the country. How exactly? We're educated on the law, the bureaucratic agencies themselves, firearm and crime statistics, government legislation etc. The reality is most people who are not us are the dumb ones. They don't care, they don't have an investment or any interest in being honest. They just want to infringe on the second amendment by pushing intentionally incomplete narratives and refuse to acknowledge what the problems actually are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 464 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 18 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said: Worse? That's your opinion. The FBI definition was far too broad and restricted firearms rights from people with FTA warrants and other nonsensical legal issues. You could be restricted for parking ticket warrants lmao. Is the ATF definition perfect? By no means, but it falls into line with the constitution far more that what the FBI had on the books. The big difference is that the ATF rule only prevents people from buying guns outside of their states lines while the FBI sought to prevent these people from buying guns inside their own states. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,107 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 2 minutes ago, Mr. Impossible said: The big difference is that the ATF rule only prevents people from buying guns outside of their states lines while the FBI sought to prevent these people from buying guns inside their own states. The true answer is a medium between the two, but as I said the ATF definition held more constitutional standing. The FBI was too heavy handed with their definition and restricted purchases from people who had no business being restricted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,329 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 2 hours ago, DynamiteCop said: Hunter is a Class B felon, Trump is a Class E felon lmao. The difference is stark. Hunter is a private citizen not running for the office of the presidency while Trump is.... So yes the difference is Stark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Substatic 423 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) Trump Demanded Mike Johnson Help Him 'Overturn' Conviction: Report (rollingstone.com) Hmm why aren't Hunter or Joe trying this brilliant idea too!? Also.... Texas man charged with threatening FBI agent involved in Hunter Biden case - The Washington Post Lmao, it's a fucking death cult. Wanting to kill people over the Trump verdict. Wanting to kill people over the Hunter verdict. Everything is rigged no matter what happens. Everything is out to get us! Lets kill everyone! Edited June 14 by Substatic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,107 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, Goukosan said: Hunter is a private citizen not running for the office of the presidency while Trump is.... So yes the difference is Stark A Class B felony regardless of the specific crime or municipality is something very serious that is committed with purposeful intent and very strong awareness that a high level felony is being committed. A Class E felony is something that you may be doing to which you are not even aware is a felony or even illegal depending on your municipality. In New York there are literally 5 levels of felonies above a Class E which is the lowest and nearly parallels a misdemeanor. 56 minutes ago, Substatic said: Trump Demanded Mike Johnson Help Him 'Overturn' Conviction: Report (rollingstone.com) Hmm why aren't Hunter or Joe trying this brilliant idea too!? God, aren't you a genius. Well considering that Hunter was tried and convicted in Federal court he was awarded exactly what Trump and Republican lawmakers are seeking to be the requirement for a President to be charged. To be charged only by Federal courts in order to weed out frivilous cases brought against a President by partisan and low level activist district attorneys in opposing political party strongholds which will have guaranteed bias in a jury. You people are so unintelligent it hurts. Edited June 14 by DynamiteCop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,329 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said: A Class B felony regardless of the specific crime or municipality is something very serious that is committed with purposeful intent and very strong awareness that a high level felony is being committed. A Class E felony is something that you may be doing to which you are not even aware is a felony or even illegal depending on your municipality. In New York there are literally 5 levels of felonies above a Class E which is the lowest and nearly parallels a misdemeanor. That's alot of spin to avoid that hunter is a private citizen not running for any public office and that Trump is running for President Trump has a federal case pending as well... So when he gets found guilty there too... You MAGA clowns will still cry that it's not fair Edited June 14 by Goukosan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 464 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 3 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said: A Class B felony regardless of the specific crime or municipality is something very serious that is committed with purposeful intent and very strong awareness that a high level felony is being committed. A Class E felony is something that you may be doing to which you are not even aware is a felony or even illegal depending on your municipality. In New York there are literally 5 levels of felonies above a Class E which is the lowest and nearly parallels a misdemeanor. God, aren't you a genius. Well considering that Hunter was tried and convicted in Federal court he was awarded exactly what Trump and Republican lawmakers are seeking to be the requirement for a President to be charged. To be charged only by Federal courts in order to weed out frivilous cases brought against a President by partisan and low level activist district attorneys in opposing political area strongholds. You mean brought to a federal court where a president can pardon a convict? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,107 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just now, Goukosan said: That's alot of spin to avoid that hunter is a private citizen not running for any public office and that Trump is running for President You're such a dumb person you completely failed to realize the second section of my post also pertains to you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Goukosan 2,329 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DynamiteCop said: You're such a dumb person you completely failed to realize the second section of my post also pertains to you. Hey Dumbass Hunter was found guilty in Federal court... Joe Biden is president and can pardon him if he wants genius....yet for some reason no one on the left or even Joe himself is calling for that. Trump has a federal case pending as well... So when he gets found guilty there too... You MAGA clowns will still cry Bbbbbut it's not fair Edited just now by Goukosan Edited June 14 by Goukosan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DynamiteCop 2,107 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 5 minutes ago, Goukosan said: Hey Dumbass Hunter was found guilty in Federal court... Joe Biden is president and can pardon him if he wants genius....yet for some reason no one on the left or even Joe himself is calling for that. Trump has a federal case pending as well... So when he gets found guilty there too... You MAGA clowns will still cry Bbbbbut it's not fair Edited just now by Goukosan Joe won't pardon Hunter and no Democrat is calling for it because it would immediately bury his campaign. Trump's Federal case is a dead end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 464 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 1 minute ago, DynamiteCop said: Joe won't pardon Hunter and no Democrat is calling for it because it would immediately bury his campaign. Trump's Federal case is a dead end. Yeah, wild that Biden would suffer for abusing his office and yet some how Trump can be openly corrupt and lose no support at all from conservatives and Republicans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Substatic 423 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 11 hours ago, DynamiteCop said: A Class B felony regardless of the specific crime or municipality is something very serious that is committed with purposeful intent and very strong awareness that a high level felony is being committed. More proof of weaponization of Biden's DOJ! Oh wait. Lol. You keep undercutting the main GOP narrative by posting this 😂😅 11 hours ago, DynamiteCop said: Well considering that Hunter was tried and convicted in Federal court he was awarded exactly what Trump and Republican lawmakers are seeking to be the requirement for a President to be charged. Hunter was tried and convicted in a federal court. Trump was tried and convicted in a NY court. Both were found guilty by a jury of their peers given clear evidence of clear crimes. There is no evidence of foul play within each of the trials. That's a fact. You can take subjective grievance that either were brought to trial, but the problem is the evidence was so clear cut for each that bringing them to trial, biased or not, was extremely easy and 100% legal with State or Federal law. I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand. The crime Hunter was charged for is almost NEVER brought, but it doesn't matter - as the evidence shows it 100% occurred. Same goes for the Menendez and Quiar federal trials. The fact you would even defend Trump calling for Mike Johnson to over turn his conviction shows you're in a low IQ CULT: Report: Trump Demanded Mike Johnson Use the Federal Government to Overturn His Conviction, and Johnson’s Response Was Basically, “I’m on It, Boss!” | Vanity Fair Quote Politico reports that shortly after he was convicted on 34 felony counts in New York, Trump called House Speaker Mike Johnson and, in between “frequent F-bombs,” told the Louisiana lawmaker that Congress must destroy the Democrats he claims have been “weaponizing” the Department of Justice against him. Lmao weaponizing the DOJ in a State case? What the fuck? These people are so retarded. Didn't you guys just gloat that same DOJ made Hunter a Class B felon? 😅 But now they are weaponized in a STATE case against Republicans while making the Democrat President's son a Class B felon? Make it make sense. This mentally deranged conspiracy nonsense has to end and you have to just start accepting all of these case, whether it be Trump and Alex Jones, or Menendez and Hunter, are clear cut with facts and the jury found (or will find) as much as well. Always saying everything is rigged and out to get you any time it doesn't go your way, even though facts completely disagree with you, is a mental illness. This is not normal adult bevahior. I can't believe you let some silver spoon baby born with hundreds of millions of dollars dictate your thoughts and put you in a cult. Pathetic. Edited June 14 by Substatic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Substatic 423 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) 8 hours ago, DynamiteCop said: Joe won't pardon Hunter and no Democrat is calling for it because it would immediately bury his campaign. Yet Trump can call for legally questionable (if not illegal) way of doing the same for himself, and not bury his campaign. Trump’s private demand to Johnson: Help overturn my conviction - POLITICO Trump’s claims of presidential immunity to be probed at U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday • Missouri Independent Because it's a cult. "The Trump, Alex Jones, Steven Bannon, etc. cases were all rigged!" "The Hunter, Menendez, Quiar, Weiner, etc. cases are all very fair and balanced!" Get a grip. Read up on some law. Visit more sources than Tim Pool, he's a 5th grade drop out. Edited June 14 by Substatic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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