Remij 4,997 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 https://x.com/Genki_JPN/status/1828318867766247871 What the fuck? With the PRO coming you'd think prices would be dropping.. This doesn't bode well for the price of the PRO. Unless there's something I'm missing. Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,843 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 In previous gens consoles would see hundreds of dollars price drops. This doesnt really seem sustainable to me. Link to post Share on other sites
Playstation Tablet 1,843 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Xbox alsp raised the price in Japan. Where is the logic? Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,428 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Exchange rate? Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,997 Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 42 minutes ago, lynux3 said: Exchange rate? Yeah, but that might explain keeping it the same price 4 years later, but not raising it. Link to post Share on other sites
lynux3 2,428 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 2 minutes ago, Remij said: Yeah, but that might explain keeping it the same price 4 years later, but not raising it. Isn’t the Yen tumbling a bit? Might explain the increase to cover those losses. Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,997 Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 28 minutes ago, lynux3 said: Isn’t the Yen tumbling a bit? Might explain the increase to cover those losses. Yes, but it's a 4 year old product that has gotten cheaper to produce over time. Prices should have been dropped and the yen dropping should mean prices increased back to where they were.. aka stayed the same... not an actual increase 4 years later. This is just crazy. PRO price might be higher than expected as a premium product to claw back losses too. Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,997 Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 Damn, on Sony's tweet about the price increase, Japanese gamers are upset and a lot of them are commenting things to the effect of "might as well buy a PC then".. https://x.com/PlayStation_jp/status/1828311481265394102 Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,789 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 You've seen the value of the Yen right? This increase literally basically keeps it at the same price value for Sony Link to post Share on other sites
MalaXmaS 702 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 I think Sony might be doing this because they want to go PC already. TCHBFR Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,997 Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 (edited) 7 minutes ago, madmaltese said: You've seen the value of the Yen right? This increase literally basically keeps it at the same price value for Sony I already responded to that multiple times in this very thread... It's absolutely ridiculous that a product which is 4 years old, and should have dropped price by now... is actually increasing it's price over what it was when it originally launched.. As I already stated in this thread, I could understand the price having dropped, and then having to raise it back to what it originally was because the yen is shit... but this is an actual price increase on the product. Want to cover your losses? Raise the price of your subscription services. Nobody buying your console means they're not buying into your subscription services either.. The console can lose money... they need people buying into the services and games. Edited August 27 by Remij Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Impossible 567 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 10 minutes ago, MalaXmaS said: I think Sony might be doing this because they want to go PC already. TCHBFR It's fascinating how stupid people utilize critical thinking. I'm genuinely curious how this makes sense to you. Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,789 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 19 minutes ago, Remij said: I already responded to that multiple times in this very thread... It's absolutely ridiculous that a product which is 4 years old, and should have dropped price by now... is actually increasing it's price over what it was when it originally launched.. As I already stated in this thread, I could understand the price having dropped, and then having to raise it back to what it originally was because the yen is shit... but this is an actual price increase on the product. Want to cover your losses? Raise the price of your subscription services. Nobody buying your console means they're not buying into your subscription services either.. The console can lose money... they need people buying into the services and games. That world doesn't exist anymore, look around you. Something being the same price as 3/4 years ago is equivalent to things getting price drops in the past. Inflation has destroyed all chances of price drops when keeping something at the same cost is already causing a drop in profits. Then you add the massive drop of value in Yen on top of that and it's the least surprising thing ever. Do a real value test on PS5 cost in Japan 4 years ago to today (prior to this increase) while factoring in inflation over those 4 years (since covid) and the drop of the value of the Yen. It would equal to a bigger drop in value then the actual old school price drops. Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,997 Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 (edited) 11 minutes ago, madmaltese said: That world doesn't exist anymore, look around you. Something being the same price as 3/4 years ago is equivalent to things getting price drops in the past. Inflation has destroyed all chances of price drops when keeping something at the same cost is already causing a drop in profits. Then you add the massive drop of value in Yen on top of that and it's the least surprising thing ever. Do a real value test on PS5 cost in Japan 4 years ago to today (prior to this increase) while factoring in inflation over those 4 years (since covid) and the drop of the value of the Yen. It would equal to a bigger drop in value then the actual old school price drops. Right, then the world where Sony sells 120M units also wont exist anymore. And where's the Switch price increase? The problem is that Sony CAN take a loss on hardware... they just don't want to anymore. Which is fine... raise the prices all you want... but it's going to cost them more in the long run in Japan when you have Nintendo locked in and PC gaining ground every year. Edited August 28 by Remij Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,789 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 minutes ago, Remij said: Right, then the world where Sony sells 120M units also wont exist anymore. And where's the Switch price increase? Ps5 prob won't sell 120M units.... not sure what that has to do with anything I said, never said it would. Literally just explaining to you what you missed since you asked. Switch is probably months away from getting fully replaced and in year 7 of it's life plus it's a major market for Nintendo where they make insane amounts through software/hardware plus saying 'what about X not doing it' doesn't negate anything. Can literally say that for any price increase from anyone ever. Feel free to keep thinking it's some super strange out of this world increase but that's the reason. Why do you think it's only Japan? Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,997 Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 (edited) 6 minutes ago, madmaltese said: Ps5 prob won't sell 120M units.... not sure what that has to do with anything I said, never said it would. Literally just explaining to you what you missed since you asked. Switch is probably months away from getting fully replaced and in year 7 of it's life plus it's a major market for Nintendo where they make insane amounts through software/hardware plus saying 'what about X not doing it' doesn't negate anything. Can literally say that for any price increase from anyone ever. Feel free to keep thinking it's some super strange out of this world increase but that's the reason. Why do you think it's only Japan? I didn't miss anything dude... I know the situation with the yen... and I know how inflation works. The thing you're missing is how ridiculous it is, regardless of the situation. Playstation can take losses on hardware.. it's literally the means to the end of their entire business... you price people out of the point of entry, then you're losing far more. Nintendo has been mulling a Switch price increase for literally over 2 years now... and they never did... hmm imagine that. And yes, I'm well aware that Japan is a major market for Nintendo and apparently not for Sony... it's going to remain that way, clearly. Never said it was super strange... I said it's ridiculous. You can't name another gaming product ever that has cost more on retail shelves 4 years after it was brought to market.. and not just $50... but $100 more.. yea keep telling me that's not ridiculous. Edited August 28 by Remij Link to post Share on other sites
madmaltese★ 2,789 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, Remij said: I didn't miss anything dude... I know the situation with the yen... and I know how inflation works. The thing you're missing is how ridiculous it is, regardless of the situation. Playstation can take losses on hardware.. it's literally the means to the end of their entire business... you price people out of the point of entry, then you're losing far more. Nintendo has been mulling a Switch price increase for literally over 2 years now... and they never did... hmm imagine that. And yes, I'm well aware that Japan is a major market for Nintendo and apparently not for Sony. Never said it was super strange... I said it's ridiculous. You can't name another gaming product ever that has cost more on retail shelves 4 years after it was brought to market.. and not just $50... but $100 more.. yea keep telling me that's not ridiculous. Sony haven't loss lead heavily on a console since PS3 and if you look at their financials back then you'd know why. Plus they simply don't need to anymore, they've even said this publicly during both launches (saying they are near profitable instantly). and yup, Sony don't care about Japan much, haven't for a long time. Nintendo increasing Japan prices would be like Sony doing so in the US, won't happen. As for can't name another gaming product to ever get a price increase... https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/21/23768400/microsoft-xbox-series-x-xbox-game-pass-price-increase Link to post Share on other sites
Remij 4,997 Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 (edited) 4 minutes ago, madmaltese said: As for can't name another gaming product to ever get a price increase... https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/21/23768400/microsoft-xbox-series-x-xbox-game-pass-price-increase Previous to this generation of consoles dummy.. And yes, it's just as ridiculous when MS does it as Sony. Edited August 28 by Remij Link to post Share on other sites
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